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12-19-2008, 07:53 PM
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He's not been so terrible that he is being waived. Think about it.
Only because he doesn't play for Tampa. Have you been paying attention to that circus this year?

There's no way in hell we can get a "real center" without gutting our roster; surely I'm not the only one that sees this. Have we learned nothing over the last few years?

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12-19-2008, 07:54 PM
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Vermette? Dude has been absolutely terrible this season.
His talent didn't just suddenly disappear. Excellent time to get him (albeit a poor time to sell him).

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12-19-2008, 07:55 PM
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Dubinsky isn't available. Vermette or Spezza on the other hand might be able to be nabbed.

And Jokinen wouldn't prevent us from anything. He'd only be making $1 million and we could easily waive him again if needed.
How long have you been a fan of the Columbus Blue Jackets? If you've been around for very long (and have been paying attention) you'll quickly understand that if we were to pick up Jokinen off waivers, that would be our move for the year. We don't pick up players and then waive them. We don't play with monopoly money like some other teams.

Jokinen would flat out prevent us from picking up any other offensive players. Take it to the bank!

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12-19-2008, 08:15 PM
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This would be the perfect time to grab Vermette. I still don't think he's a number one center, but he would be on this team. Ottawa's strong up the middle with Spezza and Fisher, and Vermette is so much more suited for it. He's been awful, but Ottawa has been pretty bad themselves and I think he'd be a great fit. The question is a fair deal, I'm guessing a 2nd and a mid-level prospect would be able to get it done now.

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12-19-2008, 08:17 PM
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Howson will look to deal after that brutal 6-game road swing at the turn of the year. If, after those 6 games, we're within a game of the top-8, I could see him making a move. Otherwise he'll do like every year. Wait til the end, dump some vets for whatever trash he can get, and pray every day for a top-2 pick.

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12-19-2008, 08:23 PM
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How long have you been a fan of the Columbus Blue Jackets? If you've been around for very long (and have been paying attention) you'll quickly understand that if we were to pick up Jokinen off waivers, that would be our move for the year. We don't pick up players and then waive them. We don't play with monopoly money like some other teams.

Jokinen would flat out prevent us from picking up any other offensive players. Take it to the bank!
I've been a fan of the Blue Jackets since their inception. And I HAVE paid attention the entire time. I disagree that picking him up would make us do nothing else, but whatever.

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12-19-2008, 08:45 PM
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I've been a fan of the Blue Jackets since their inception. And I HAVE paid attention the entire time. I disagree that picking him up would make us do nothing else, but whatever.

If you really believe that, then you HAVE not been paying attention. We don't do things like that.

This is not the type of franchise that would spend $1m on a marginal player in the middle of the year and then just waive him because we want to make another move. If we pick up Jokinen, he is our upgrade. End of story.

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12-19-2008, 08:55 PM
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If you really believe that, then you HAVE not been paying attention. We don't do things like that.

This is not the type of franchise that would spend $1m on a marginal player in the middle of the year and then just waive him because we want to make another move. If we pick up Jokinen, he is our upgrade. End of story.
Okay, first off just because we haven't done something in the past doesn't mean we won't now or in the future. And, if we were to pick up Jokinen and then end up waiving him, I think some other team would pick him up so we wouldn't be on the hook for the money anyway. But, regardless, I don't think were going to end up getting him anyway so it's a moot point. Just because you say it won't happen or end of story doesn't mean that's the end all be all, unless of course you are Scott Howson. And, I'd sure as hell hope, that if we picked him up and ended up staying in the race that Howson would make more moves to try and you know, actually make the playoffs, something that we have never done before. I guess it's just easier to question someone's fandom and say that you are the only one that can be correct.


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12-19-2008, 08:57 PM
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Okay, first off just because we haven't done something in the past doesn't mean we won't now or in the future. And, if we were to pick up Jokinen and then end up waiving him, I think some other team would pick him up so we wouldn't be on the hook for the money anyway. But, regardless, I don't think were going to end up getting him anyway so it's a moot point. Just because you say it won't happen or end of story doesn't mean that's the end all be all. And, I'd sure as hell hope, that if we picked him up and ended up staying in the race that Howson would make more moves to try and you know, actually make the playoffs, something that we have never done before. I guess it's just easier to question someone's fandom and say that you are the only one that can be correct.
Dude, he ended the story already. Talk about gratuitous text!

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12-19-2008, 09:39 PM
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Please put a heavyweight on your wish list. Crap like this will not happen if we have a top heavyweight on the team. I know it is not Hitch hockey but last night is a prefect example why one is needed. Boll and Dorsett are not the answer to a heavyweight.

The Crunch have Sgroi, Mirasty, Harvey, Rome and Sestito. I don't think very many team will be taking runs at Clay Wilson.

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12-19-2008, 11:52 PM
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Please put a heavyweight on your wish list. Crap like this will not happen if we have a top heavyweight on the team. I know it is not Hitch hockey but last night is a prefect example why one is needed. Boll and Dorsett are not the answer to a heavyweight.

The Crunch have Sgroi, Mirasty, Harvey, Rome and Sestito. I don't think very many team will be taking runs at Clay Wilson.
Another one of these enforcer ball washers?

Jesus...

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We don't need more penalty minutes. We have plenty. We need skill. Another guy taking penalties and only contributing 4 minutes per game will not stop Brassard from trying to defend a teammate. A stern talking to from Coach and GM will do that.

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12-20-2008, 12:31 AM
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I've been a fan of the Blue Jackets since their inception. And I HAVE paid attention the entire time. I disagree that picking him up would make us do nothing else, but whatever.
In your defense, we aren't the same organization we've been for so long... And we do have a bit of money to spend, although with the economy the way it is - I doubt ownership would go for it unless Gretzky was putting skates on again

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12-20-2008, 07:11 AM
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After last night's game, we'd be lucky to get a Fedorovesque return for Pazzy.
You do know that Ruth is playing in the WJC don't you and was a 2nd round pick in the draft two years ago. You really think Sergei was worth more than a 2nd round pick. Ruth is an excellent player for Notre Dame and he bought us 3 years of not having to sign him to a contract while developing. could we use Sergei...of course but he wasn't going to re-sign in Columbus and last years team wasn't going to the playoffs so the move needed to be made.

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12-20-2008, 10:29 AM
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In your defense, we aren't the same organization we've been for so long...
Thank you

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12-20-2008, 10:39 AM
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His talent didn't just suddenly disappear. Excellent time to get him (albeit a poor time to sell him).
Agreed.

Hoping to sign an FA over the summer doesn't work. Short of gutting the team, the CBJ have to go after up-and-comers with proven upside. And as it's mid-season, they'll most likely have to key in on situations where their potential trading partner has an abundance of depth.

That's an extremely short list. And it's getting shorter, as David Krejci is probably out of CBJ price range now.

Vermette struggles a bit out of the gate, and his TOI decreases. So he struggles more. Perfect buy-low opportunity, IMO.

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12-20-2008, 02:16 PM
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Jussi Jokinen cleared waivers so he's staying in Tampa and will play for the Lightning tonight.

http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/related/C189/

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I'm trying to remember all of the long(er) term injuries that Jackets have suffered due to fights....

Obviously Brassard..

Torres
Klesla

I'm blanking. Aren't there more?

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Please put a heavyweight on your wish list. Crap like this will not happen if we have a top heavyweight on the team. I know it is not Hitch hockey but last night is a prefect example why one is needed. Boll and Dorsett are not the answer to a heavyweight.

The Crunch have Sgroi, Mirasty, Harvey, Rome and Sestito. I don't think very many team will be taking runs at Clay Wilson.
The Crunch are also losing a lot.

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12-20-2008, 04:52 PM
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I'm trying to remember all of the long(er) term injuries that Jackets have suffered due to fights....

Obviously Brassard..

Torres
Klesla

I'm blanking. Aren't there more?
Not this season, but I believe Richardson missed time due to a fight. It was around the same time Klesla got his hand caught in a jersey during a fight.

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12-20-2008, 04:59 PM
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I'm trying to remember all of the long(er) term injuries that Jackets have suffered due to fights....

Obviously Brassard..

Torres
Klesla

I'm blanking. Aren't there more?
Dorsett had his finger broken requiring surgery.

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Not this season, but I believe Richardson missed time due to a fight. It was around the same time Klesla got his hand caught in a jersey during a fight.
Yeah. I remember that one - he got into a fight with Thornton, and got his finger caught in a piece of Thornton's equipment.

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Not this season, but I believe Richardson missed time due to a fight. It was around the same time Klesla got his hand caught in a jersey during a fight.
Yep, he fought Joe Thornton.

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Dorsett had his finger broken requiring surgery.
That's the one I couldn't recall...

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You do know that Ruth is playing in the WJC don't you and was a 2nd round pick in the draft two years ago. You really think Sergei was worth more than a 2nd round pick. Ruth is an excellent player for Notre Dame and he bought us 3 years of not having to sign him to a contract while developing. could we use Sergei...of course but he wasn't going to re-sign in Columbus and last years team wasn't going to the playoffs so the move needed to be made.
You completely missed the point of my post. It wasn't a dis on Ruth at all. My post was about Pazzy's value. He's been bad this year and if we were to get a player of Ruth's caliber for him, we'd be lucky.

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