And for Kaberle, forget it, BG won't trade Higgins to a divisional rival.
Bouwmeester, ok, but that's a pipedream, because BG won't let McDonaugh go and the asking price would probably be too high, also have to consider salary, if Bowm agrees to an extention beforehand. The possibilities are really thin of getting him.
People should realize we don't need to give the moon for a 4th dman, and that 4th dman doesn't need to be Bowm or Kaberle caliber. Detroit got Stuart last year. We already have Hammer, Markov and Komi. We don't need such a huge upgrade to make the top 4 better.
euuu, hes was going to trade him to TO for Sundin last year!
He was willing to do it to rent Sundin last year. Why can't he do it for a signed Kaberle?
P.S. Higgins, Grabovski and a 1st were going to Toronto for Sundin, MacKenzie himself said it on TSN lately.
Mind you, not many of us believe that, even if McKenzie said it, so it doesn't hold much water as a counterargument to most of us in this specific instance IMHO.
Kaberle also has the vaunted NTC, though, I wonder if he's going to get frustrated enough to waive it or if he is comfortable where he is. Still, he's in Bouwemeester's class in terms of the pricetag and competing bids IMHO, so not what I would consider an ideal candidate either.
Mind you, not many of us believe that, even if McKenzie said it, so it doesn't hold much water as a counterargument to most of us in this specific instance IMHO.
Kaberle also has the vaunted NTC, though, I wonder if he's going to get frustrated enough to waive it or if he is comfortable where he is. Still, he's in Bouwemeester's class in terms of the pricetag and competing bids IMHO, so not what I would consider an ideal candidate either.
Maybe, but since both him and Bouwmeester are available, there would be less suitors.
Maybe, but since both him and Bouwmeester are available, there would be less suitors.
Well, we don't know they're both available. They might be. Of course Florida claimed they're not trading Bouwemeester, and who knows what Kaberle might do with his NTC. Still, I think even if bids were totally open on both, I wouldn't like the level that even the second-place bid hit.
My recommendation would be to wait for Emelin rather than to trade.
But that doesn't help us this year. Looking at the number of UFA on our roster, I would think that we're going for it this year.
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Trading Higgins for Zidlicky would be an overpayment, by the Habs.
It doesn't have to be a one for one deal. I'm simply stating that the Wild has been hot on Higgins for a while.
It is painfully obvious reading this thread that most have never had the opportunity to watch Zidlicky play. If I had to compare him to someone we've seen before, he reminds me a bit of Rafalski. Similar style, great speed, good first pass, a nose for the net. Defensively, he's so-so, but paired with Hammer, he'd be great.
I think that Zidlicky is the most realistic option and the best bang for our buck.
It's an intriguing suggestion. Blair Mackasey, director of pro scouting with the Wild, has been seen a lot at the Bell Centre in November.
My gut feeling is that if Gainey makes a trade, he'll try to go after a guy who is signed after this season, which is Zidlicky's case.
On the other hand, if the Habs didn't feel comfortable last year putting Streit at the blue because of his defensive shortcomings, I don't see them taking MK's 3.5 million contract this easily...
It's an intriguing suggestion. Blair Mackasey, director of pro scouting with the Wild, has been seen a lot at the Bell Centre in November.
My gut feeling is that if Gainey makes a trade, he'll try to go after a guy who is signed after this season, which is Zidlicky's case.
On the other hand, if the Habs didn't feel comfortable last year putting Streit at the blue because of his defensive shortcomings, I don't see them taking MK's 3.5 million contract this easily...
With all the rumours around a potential trade between the Wild and the Canadiens a few weeks ago before Gaborik's injury, I had a feeling back then that it wasn't Gaborik that we were interested in, due to his salary and his injury problems. Gainey then came out and confirmed that there were no talks between he and Risebrough regarding Gaborik... but he stayed short of saying that there were no talks about other players.
Let's face it, the Wild is very deep at the blue line and they've been struggling big time to score goals. They've also always been very high on Higgins. I have a feeling that if a deal was to come about between the two teams, Higgy would be part of it and a defenseman would come our way. Call it a gut feeling.
EDIT: I think that Bergeron is more in Streit's mold than Zidlicky though.
I don't think that we need to go big as it would cost us a lot to do so. All we need is some tweaking, especially is Kovalev has decided that he'll play the way he did last year.
I don't think that we need to go big as it would cost us a lot to do so. All we need is some tweaking, especially is Kovalev has decided that he'll play the way he did last year.
we need a big fish, if bob was willing to give all that for mats, then this is well worth it, bring on Bo.
we need a big fish, if bob was willing to give all that for mats, then this is well worth it, bring on Bo.
Give all what for Mats? He was a UFA and wouldn't have cost us anything player-wise... can't say the same about Bouwmeester!
Having said that, if you look at the first post of this thread, you'll see that he's also at the top of my list, but I disagree with the "go big or go home" concept. You'll see my reasons in the first post.
Give all what for Mats? He was a UFA and wouldn't have cost us anything player-wise... can't say the same about Bouwmeester!
Having said that, if you look at the first post of this thread, you'll see that he's also at the top of my list, but I disagree with the "go big or go home" concept. You'll see my reasons in the first post.
at the trade deadline, and confirmed, bob offered higgins, gabby, and a 1st rounder for mat.
Rotislav Klesla could be available if Colombus falls from grace
What makes you think that ?? They have never been in a playoff spot and Klesla is injured right now anyways. He probably wouldn't come cheap either because he's a good No.3-4 Dman and is also signed to an excellent contract through this year and the next.
no to jay bo we have alot of promising young defencmens coming up and we already have hammer and markov locked and komi coming up it will be impossible for our young d to crack a big time role
i would go for rental who wouldnt cost more then a pick and or prospect
What makes you think that ?? They have never been in a playoff spot and Klesla is injured right now anyways. He probably wouldn't come cheap either because he's a good No.3-4 Dman and is also signed to an excellent contract through this year and the next.
I believe he had a stretch of pressbox duty that had some people intrigued about his potential availability. He seems like a bit of a projecty-ier middle/longer term type of acquisition to me, though. Maybe he steps in and contributes, but equally maybe he steps in and is a bit shaky in the ways that got him out of the lineup for the Bluejackets. I'd think the Habs might want to try to pick up more of a sure thing. Well, if they were giving up something "real" for the player, anyway. Klesla would take something "real", I'd assume, due to his potential. If we were taking a risky player in the short term, I'd think it'd be one of those cheaper Boucher/Aucoin/Sopel types?
We don't need a #4. We need a power play shot. Our top 4 is fine...no...good! Josh Goerges is better tha alot of the guys mentioned in this thread. Who needs to say it for you guys to believe it?
no to jay bo we have alot of promising young defencmens coming up and we already have hammer and markov locked and komi coming up it will be impossible for our young d to crack a big time role
i would go for rental who wouldnt cost more then a pick and or prospect
i agree.
jbo would be nice but we'd have to pay out of our ***** just to get 5 months of him.
