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12-20-2008, 05:29 PM
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3rd line C?

I may be one of the only ones but I really think this team needs a 3rd line C........that should not be tough to do and I think Joel Lundqvist makes perfect sense

This is my thinking

Grabbing Joel for example would allow Dubi to move up and Drury to the wing......I really believe they have to have their top 6 forwards on the top 2 lines. Plus I think this would give them a shut down 3rd line

I would go with say getting Lundqvist for a pick and Prucha or Fritsche

I also think they have to just leave Dawes as a top 6 until they can get someone in right at the deadline

Naslund, Gomez, Zherdev
Dawes, Dubinsky, Drury
Korpikoski, Lundqvist, Callahan
Sjostrom, Betts, Orr, Voros

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12-20-2008, 05:39 PM
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I may be one of the only ones but I really think this team needs a 3rd line C........that should not be tough to do and I think Joel Lundqvist makes perfect sense

This is my thinking

Grabbing Joel for example would allow Dubi to move up and Drury to the wing......I really believe they have to have their top 6 forwards on the top 2 lines. Plus I think this would give them a shut down 3rd line

I would go with say getting Lundqvist for a pick and Prucha or Fritsche

I also think they have to just leave Dawes as a top 6 until they can get someone in right at the deadline

Naslund, Gomez, Zherdev
Dawes, Dubinsky, Drury
Korpikoski, Lundqvist, Callahan
Sjostrom, Betts, Orr, Voros
I would love to get Joel Lundqvist on this team, but he far from the only thing that we need. We still need a second line winger. And we need to get rid of Kalinin!

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12-20-2008, 05:46 PM
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Joel Lundqvist can barely crack the Stars roster. What makes you think he's a 3rd line center?

Any others, jOrts?

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I would love to get Joel Lundqvist on this team, but he far from the only thing that we need. We still need a second line winger. And we need to get rid of Kalinin!
I said get rid of Kalinin like a month ago and everyone shat on me.........I don't think he totally stinks but he makes 2.1 million as a 6th Dman and they need cap space.........AND Potter is ready to me.............The good thing is Backman got traded to the Rangers last yr and he is very similar so there is a market for him especially since he is a UFA...........that will get done I am confident

I know they need a top 6 BUT I also think a guy like Joel would help and that is a easier deal to make cause he doesnt make alot and is a UFA

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Why does this team need a 3rd line center? We have one of the best (most overpaid) 3rd line centers in the game. Our Captain, Chris Drury.

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Both Lundqvists on the same team?

Why not? =)

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Drury should be playing center, as should Dubi, Gomez and Betts.

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Joel Lundqvist can barely crack the Stars roster. What makes you think he's a 3rd line center?

Any others, jOrts?
Exactly.

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Drury should be playing center, as should Dubi, Gomez and Betts.
I don't think Lundqvist is the answer, but with Ani waiting in the wings for next season (fingers crossed), I think that trying Dubi on Drury's other wing for 10-15 games wouldn't be a bad idea

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Joel Lundqvist is terrible. A borderline NHL player at best. No thanks.

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I don't think Lundqvist is the answer, but with Ani waiting in the wings for next season (fingers crossed), I think that trying Dubi on Drury's other wing for 10-15 games wouldn't be a bad idea
good point. arty is gonna be a decent player and since we have plenty of centerman one would assume someone would move to wing. dubi has the size to do so. and hes the youngest as well.

seems like all of a sudden thats all we have. centers.

gomez
dru
dubi
korpedo
betts
anisimov

good thing we didnt sign sundin. we would have had a top 6 of all centerman.

oh and ill pass on joel. nice story and all, but as a player, we already have more than enough 4th line utility players.

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deal with Ani when he gets here. Dubi's career should be as a centerman. He plays center well. He sees the ice well. Carries the puck well. Looks for his wingers well. Let's not screw him up at this point. Drury's a center. OK, there's a lack of wing talent, but the solution isn't Drury to the wing. Make a trade; do something if a winger is needed. Oh, no room under the cap. So ya know what? This is what this team's basically going to look like for a while. I'm tired of hearing all these players being moved out of position because this team's makeup is flawed. Korps at center was a disaster. He looked horrible and couldn't take a faceoff to save his life. Drury on wing was a horrowshow. I'm done with these experiments. Players are comfortable at certain positions. It's not entirely uncommon for guys to change positions, but that's done typically because it makes sense for them, not for the team.

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Korpedo's a winger - he hasn't been a good centerman.

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Really have no idea where the love for this guy comes from. Completely average bottom-six guy, god knows we don't need another one of them.

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I may be one of the only ones but I really think this team needs a 3rd line C........that should not be tough to do and I think Joel Lundqvist makes perfect sense

This is my thinking

Grabbing Joel for example would allow Dubi to move up and Drury to the wing......I really believe they have to have their top 6 forwards on the top 2 lines. Plus I think this would give them a shut down 3rd line

I would go with say getting Lundqvist for a pick and Prucha or Fritsche

I also think they have to just leave Dawes as a top 6 until they can get someone in right at the deadline

Naslund, Gomez, Zherdev
Dawes, Dubinsky, Drury
Korpikoski, Lundqvist, Callahan
Sjostrom, Betts, Orr, Voros
normally I'm all about these Prucha/Fritsche/Dawes trades for some other team's better players but Joel Lundqvist is a fringe NHL player right now on a not so good Stars team. I know Jussi Jokinen came up in another thread and frankly I'd rather take him for free off of waivers than get Joel Lundqvist. Jokinen is a sound 3rd line winner and quite a shootout specialist. Of course we don't claim him because we have no room for him. I have no clue what Tampa management was thinking waiving him. I think that is a more an indictment of how bad Tampa's management is instead of Jokinen's play. They trade Boyle and Richards, waive Jokinen, dump Carle for a 3rd pairing defenseman and unproven wrecking ball. How do you turn two elite players into crap? In the end, we really need to shore up the blue line. If I could redo the summer, I would have signed Robert Blake, Brian Campbell or Mark Streit, and Kurt Sauer instead of Rosival, Redden, and Kalinin.

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If he wasn't Hank's twin, would anybody here give him a second thought?
I would. He is quite good actually. Been injured a bit but he has quite a good skillset. AA is better long term, but for a cheap chip (Fritsche for example) I would definitely pull the trigger, He could replace B Betts as 4th line center with Sjo and voros/Orr on the wings and definitely bring up the squandering production on that unit while still bringing very nice defensive assets into the game...

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The LAST thing this team needs is another center.

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Why does this team need a 3rd line center? We have one of the best (most overpaid) 3rd line centers in the game. Our Captain, Chris Drury.
Exactly.

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I agree on second line right wing and replace Kalinin. You can play Potter for 16 minutes. Prucha was supposed to be the second line right wing. Prucha is simply not playing and making 1.6 million and that is inexcusable. A move should be made where he can play and Rangers can have some cap relief to fill some need.

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deal with Ani when he gets here. Dubi's career should be as a centerman. He plays center well. He sees the ice well. Carries the puck well. Looks for his wingers well. Let's not screw him up at this point. Drury's a center. OK, there's a lack of wing talent, but the solution isn't Drury to the wing. Make a trade; do something if a winger is needed. Oh, no room under the cap. So ya know what? This is what this team's basically going to look like for a while. I'm tired of hearing all these players being moved out of position because this team's makeup is flawed. Korps at center was a disaster. He looked horrible and couldn't take a faceoff to save his life. Drury on wing was a horrowshow. I'm done with these experiments. Players are comfortable at certain positions. It's not entirely uncommon for guys to change positions, but that's done typically because it makes sense for them, not for the team.
I agree. I'm so tired of seeing players played out of position. But, Renney took Campbell's dream to heart and now he thinks he has a flock of interchangeable forwards.

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so when the deadline comes and they deal Kalinin and also get a 3rd line C i will say i told ya so,haha.............tick tock :-)

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I may be one of the only ones but I really think this team needs a 3rd line C........that should not be tough to do and I think Joel Lundqvist makes perfect sense

This is my thinking

Grabbing Joel for example would allow Dubi to move up and Drury to the wing......I really believe they have to have their top 6 forwards on the top 2 lines. Plus I think this would give them a shut down 3rd line

I would go with say getting Lundqvist for a pick and Prucha or Fritsche

I also think they have to just leave Dawes as a top 6 until they can get someone in right at the deadline

Naslund, Gomez, Zherdev
Dawes, Dubinsky, Drury
Korpikoski, Lundqvist, Callahan
Sjostrom, Betts, Orr, Voros
Joel Lundqvist is garbage. The last thing this team needs is a center. It's soooooo obvious what it needs is a big winger who can score.

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Joel Lundqvist is garbage. The last thing this team needs is a center. It's soooooo obvious what it needs is a big winger who can score.
Yep but every team needs that..........hoping Tkatchuk......it really makes sense and at the deadline they won't need to move too much to sneak him in

Sather just needs to wake up and clear space now with Kalinin and Prucha

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