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12-22-2008, 01:23 PM
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Canucks will not trade Hodgson or Schneider and that is too much to give up. We are already doing well as a team and only need an extra affordable piece. Besides all that, the pieces coming back would probably get us over the salary cap? Most realistic is something like Raymond or Grabner for Antropov, but don't think it will happen.
If you waited till closer to the deadline you could fit both of them under the cap, they are both on great contracts.
4.25m for Kabby and 2.05 for Antro.

Raymond or Grabner for Antro might be possible if you were willing to add in a pick. The problem would be what pick a second would probably be too low and a first to high.

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12-22-2008, 01:26 PM
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I was just thinking that he could be a good fit with the Sedins and also has experience playing with Sundin. If we could get him for Grabner i would bite.
I would do it, but not sure that M Gillis would? We would also have a glut of forwards on the team. I still think that a rental player in the mold of M Schneider or D Weight might fit the bill better and might cost a lot less.

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12-22-2008, 01:30 PM
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If you waited till closer to the deadline you could fit both of them under the cap, they are both on great contracts.
4.25m for Kabby and 2.05 for Antro.

Raymond or Grabner for Antro might be possible if you were willing to add in a pick. The problem would be what pick a second would probably be too low and a first to high.
It would be for just one of those. Also not sure if M Gillis would even consider it at all as he doesn't seem to be keen on trading prospects for older players(unless they are star players). Raymond has real good potential but needs to gain some weight. I really doubt that Toronto and Vancouver are good trading partners as you want prospects and/or draftpicks and we can't afford to trade any of those as we are very thin in good prospects.

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12-22-2008, 01:30 PM
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To TOR - Schenider,Grabner and 09 1st Rounder

To VAN - Kaberle, Antropov

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12-22-2008, 01:32 PM
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To TOR - Schenider,Grabner and 09 1st Rounder

To VAN - Kaberle, Antropov
I'd want little more then that for Kaberle alone

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12-22-2008, 01:34 PM
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To TOR - Schenider,Grabner and 09 1st Rounder

To VAN - Kaberle, Antropov
No! We need Cory Schneider as we only have him from the farm to call up at the moment(we are really thin in good prospects). I also don't think that we need both players, so no to that proposal. Good luck trying to pry a firstrounder from M Gillis as he doesn't trade them at all.

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12-22-2008, 01:38 PM
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Any team could use Antropov, he is great defensively good for 25 - 30 goals, can play at all 3 forward positions on any of the top 3 lines, is dominant along the boards and he only makes around 2m a year.
In my honest opinion, your team is better of with trading to a team with a big prospect pool. Or expose players at the trading deadline for the highest bidder. Canucks can't give up too many prospects/draftpicks so we make for bad trading partners.

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12-22-2008, 01:42 PM
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In my honest opinion, your team is better of with trading to a team with a big prospect pool. Or expose players at the trading deadline for the highest bidder. Canucks can't give up too many prospects/draftpicks so we make for bad trading partners.
I agree.
There are alot of teams in a position to trade more for the Leafs few good players the the Canucks. To be honest part of me just wants to see them go to a team I kinda like.

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12-22-2008, 01:46 PM
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I dont even think that Gillis would do a 1st + Schneider for Kaberle right now.

I'd rather the Canucks go after Bouwmeester in the summer. Maybe reunite with his old buddy Luongo

then trade Salo for a 1st or something decent.

Bouwmeester Edler
Ohlund Obrien
Mitchel Bieksa

those 6 D r big super sexy

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12-22-2008, 01:51 PM
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I dont even think that Gillis would do a 1st + Schneider for Kaberle right now.

I'd rather the Canucks go after Bouwmeester in the summer. Maybe reunite with his old buddy Luongo

then trade Salo for a 1st or something decent.

Bouwmeester Edler
Ohlund Obrien
Mitchel Bieksa

those 6 D r big super sexy
What make you think you could get Bouw in the summer?
How are you gonna resign Mats or the twins and have any room for Bouw concedering he apparently is asking for Phaunef money.
I'd take Kaberle at 4.25 over Bouwmwister at 6m+. Atleast right now, Bouw definitely has the better long term potential.

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12-22-2008, 01:55 PM
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Boston? Kessel. Wheeler. Lucic.
Detroit? Zetterberg. Hudler. Franzen.
San Jose? Setoguchi. Michalek. Marleau. Clowe. Pavelski.
Philadelphia? Richards. Carter. Gagne.
Anaheim? Getzlaf. Perry.
Washington? Ovechkin. Semin. Backstrom. Green.

All those teams can attribute ANY success they've had directly to those players, all of whom were drafted by that team.
Pissed off Coyotes fan, here. Screw Blake Wheeler. I hope he falls out of a golf cart, while snowblowing, and lands on a cracker, resting on Dennis Seidenberg's iron shoulder. ACL, MCL, fingers, back, and concussion.
Well deserved.

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12-22-2008, 02:42 PM
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Stuff like this is why Canuck Fans have the rep of being the most uninformed fans in the League.

Yet it was Vancouver fans that insisted the Canucks were a contender for the divisional title while everyone else thought they were a lottery team... odd...

I guess being uninformed is still a step above most of the others.

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12-22-2008, 02:59 PM
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I'll take the opinions of every single scouting agency that had Schenn ranked higher than Hodgson. Hodgson's stock is going up, no doubt, but he still has a lot to prove before saying he is hands down better than Schenn. Not to mention they are completely different players at different positions.
No. Schenn is way overrated, he is not even that good at all this year. His stats show it.

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12-22-2008, 03:02 PM
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Yet it was Vancouver fans that insisted the Canucks were a contender for the divisional title while everyone else thought they were a lottery team... odd...

I guess being uninformed is still a step above most of the others.
I cannot wait for your team to crash and burn the first round just like always.

How many cups do the Canucks have again?


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12-22-2008, 03:19 PM
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No. Schenn is way overrated, he is not even that good at all this year. His stats show it.
Wow buddy your clearly clueless. Schenn is a defensive defenceman and just turned 19. He's not a player you rate by stats. Get a clue. He's learning to play against bigger stronger competitors. Man I absolutely hate guys with no common sense.

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Seriously, how the hell do we always manage a fist war between teams during trade proposals? Leave your bickering and ranting to PM's, guys. This is a really bad way to build reputation.


To the original proposal, I highly highly doubt Hodgson is going to be moved for anything below overpayment. He's our GM's first ever pick, and he's being touted as the next Linden of our team. While Kaberle is no doubt an amazing Offensive-Defenceman, we learned that mortgaging our future for star-players doesn't cut it. (Thanks Burke)


Vancouver politely passes on this one.

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I dont even think that Gillis would do a 1st + Schneider for Kaberle right now.

I'd rather the Canucks go after Bouwmeester in the summer. Maybe reunite with his old buddy Luongo

then trade Salo for a 1st or something decent.

Bouwmeester Edler
Ohlund Obrien
Mitchel Bieksa

those 6 D r big super sexy
Yeah why add significant pieces to help your run at the cup? When your best players aside from Luongo are UFA's in the off season. I hope you guys sign Jay Bo in the off season so we can sign Luongo in 2010. Good luck

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12-22-2008, 03:23 PM
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No. Schenn is way overrated, he is not even that good at all this year. His stats show it.
He is a rookie defensive Dman stats dont show everything.
Willie Mitchel was a -16 his first seasona and was alot older then Schenn.
Me thinks your just troling looking to start a fight.

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12-22-2008, 03:27 PM
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I cannot wait for your team to crash and burn the first round just like always.

How many cups do the Canucks have again?
shorter drought than toronto

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shorter drought than toronto
by what 4 years. At least the leaves have won a cup.

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by what 4 years. At least the leaves have won a cup.
if you put vancouver in a six team league i'm sure we'd have a couple too.

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Overrated. Not my fault he is having a average year.

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12-22-2008, 03:33 PM
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if you put vancouver in a six team league i'm sure we'd have a couple too.
Speculation meas nothing. Dont make fun of another teams cup drought when you have a brutal one of your own and dont have a championship at all.

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Overrated. Not my fault he is having a average year.
Just about every hocky annalist has praised the selection of Schenn, many calling him the best defensive Dman to come out of jr. in years.
Whos wrong you or all them?

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Speculation meas nothing. Dont make fun of another teams cup drought when you have a brutal one of your own and dont have a championship at all.
well since vancouver's come into the league they've at least made the finals twice and toronto....hasn't.

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