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12-21-2008, 11:44 PM
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Possible Rental players at deadline. up-coming UFA's

UFA List for 2009
According to NHLNumbers.com
Centerman




Left Wingers



Right Wingers



Defenceman




Goaltenders



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12-21-2008, 11:48 PM
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I think and I think many feel the same way that we are not going far into the playoffs without finding that missing piece. Here is a list of possible rental player come trade deadline. I personally don't really like getting players on their last year unless I am fairly confident they will resign.



Steve Sullivan was a name that popped out at me. 3.2m salary hit is pretty good for a winger of his caliber.

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12-21-2008, 11:53 PM
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I think and I think many feel the same way that we are not going far into the playoffs without finding that missing piece. Here is a list of possible rental player come trade deadline. I personally don't really like getting players on their last year unless I am fairly confident they will resign.



Steve Sullivan was a name that popped out at me. 3.2m salary hit is pretty good for a winger of his caliber.
Gonna have to see how well he can come back from his injury, if at all. Plus another small winger may not be the best thing...

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Centers

J.Lundqvist(until otherwise dubinsky is not cut out for center imo)
Betts

Left Wing
Zetterberg please~!!!!! lol

Right Wing
Orr
Sykora <--- i can dream


Defense - nobody good on there that we can get for cheap anyway.
Mara and Ohlund?

now thats a line up i can live with.

Naslund-Gomez-Zherdev
Zetterberg-Drury-Shanahan
Sjostrom-Lundqvist-Dubinsky
Dawes/Prucha-Betts-Orr/Voros

Roszival-Staal
Redden-Girardi
Mara-Ohlund


Lundqvist
Valliquette


yeah i know we'd need like another 50m in cap space to get this line up , its a pipe dream

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12-21-2008, 11:57 PM
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Gonna have to see how well he can come back from his injury, if at all. Plus another small winger may not be the best thing...
That's true. But maybe we can take a risk on him. If he doesn't come back he wouldn't count against the cap right? Of course we have to get him here and I don't know what that would take but I like him and if we could improve our chances of getting him to sign here (with a good contract) the following year that would be amazing. We might be able to grab him cheap because of his injury.

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12-22-2008, 12:11 AM
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Centers

J.Lundqvist(until otherwise dubinsky is not cut out for center imo)
Betts

Left Wing
Zetterberg please~!!!!! lol

Right Wing
Orr
Sykora <--- i can dream


Defense - nobody good on there that we can get for cheap anyway.
Mara and Ohlund?

now thats a line up i can live with.

Naslund-Gomez-Zherdev
Zetterberg-Drury-Shanahan
Sjostrom-Lundqvist-Dubinsky
Dawes/Prucha-Betts-Orr/Voros

Roszival-Staal
Redden-Girardi
Mara-Ohlund


Lundqvist
Valliquette


yeah i know we'd need like another 50m in cap space to get this line up , its a pipe dream
Beyond the pipe-dreaminess, it's totally pointless. Dubi to the wing so that we can throw JOEL LUNDQVIST there?! If anything Zetterberg ( )would be moved to center...

Plus Shanny(?) would be so far behind Zetterberg on every play we would never get a forecheck going.

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In reality the only players we are going to have a shot at come trade deadline time are the players whose teams are out of contention. Having said that I think we should go after Jay-Bo or Kuba, maybe even Boynton for toughness. The obvious choice is Gaborik pending he doesn't resign, Tkachuk wouldnt be a bad option either as long as he doesnt cost as many picks as he did when Atlanta wanted him.

Getting guys under the salary cap is another question tho

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Beyond the pipe-dreaminess, it's totally pointless. Dubi to the wing so that we can throw JOEL LUNDQVIST there?! If anything Zetterberg ( )would be moved to center...

Plus Shanny(?) would be so far behind Zetterberg on every play we would never get a forecheck going.
are you trying to say zetterberg is a gomez clone or something? he's a defensive forward not one of those guys that blazes up the ice and either scores or goes back down on a odd man rush.

Yes dubinsky to wing ,what is he doing thats so special on center right now? only reason i put J.lundqvist in there is obviously because it would benefit his brother to be on the same team.

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12-22-2008, 03:02 AM
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Erik Cole is the guy that stands out to me as being exactly while we need without giving up an arm and a leg for.

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Sykora is a loser. Only reason his career isn't over is because Crosby and Malkin have kept him in the league. He would blow here. I agree on Cole and I wouldn't mind trading Rosival for Penner and putting his big butt in front of the net.

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Realistically, these are dmen I would consider pursuing:
Derek Morris, Jordan Leopold, Sean O'Donnell, Mathieu Schneider

Only looking at teams who will probably be out of the playoff race. Anybody even close won't be sellers.

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Sykora is a loser. Only reason his career isn't over is because Crosby and Malkin have kept him in the league. He would blow here. I agree on Cole and I wouldn't mind trading Rosival for Penner and putting his big butt in front of the net.
clearly you were under a rock when he was a ranger.

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12-22-2008, 07:08 AM
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I like Cole as well. Henrik's brother has yet to prove that he's anything more than a borderline NHL'er.

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clearly you were under a rock when he was a ranger.
Was just going to post somthing very similar

31 points in 40 games = Loser

With Rucchin as the 2nd line center?

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Zednik would come cheap.........like Prucha............any gas left in the tank for him?

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I like Cole as well. Henrik's brother has yet to prove that he's anything more than a borderline NHL'er.
Joel definately hasnt proven himself yet, but whenever we play dallas, it always seems like hes doing everything right.

The only reason he doesnt score against us is because Henrik knows his tendencies pretty well.

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I think we should, realistically, make move for two of those players. Nik Antropov and Sergei Zubov. Dallas is looking terrible and the Leafs have no chance of resigning him at year's end. Zubov will help our dreadful PP. Would Dallas touch Redden,Korprikoski, Kalinin, and a 3rd?

Also for Antropov, Prucha, Zaborsky, and a 2nd?

Naslund-Gomez-Zherdev
Drury-Dubinsky-Antropov
Dawes-Fritsche-Voros
Sjostrom-Betts-Orr
Zubov-Staal
Rozsival-Girardi
Mara-Potter

I think that would take us past the 2nd round.

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Didn't hear the news? Zubov is done for the season-- possibly career.

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Didn't hear the news? Zubov is done for the season-- possibly career.
**** I didn't know that

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There are only a small handful of players on those lists that i'd want.

Mike Komisarek
Steve Montador
Mike Cammalleri
Marian Gaborik (despite being made of glass)

Are a few

And the chances of landing any of them are slim to none. And it would cost way too much in way of personnel.

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Because of the contrats we have given our players, I don't see where we would even break even on any deal for a dman.

I'm not ready to give up on Dawes or Prucha.

Before we even do that, I would so suggest calling up some young kids and make the high priced low output guys sit out a game or two and watch from the press box.

Heck, I know he's not ready but call up Sangs before you even start trading people. A lot of people said Staal and Girardi weren't ready but they played great. If you can call up a few defensemen and they play well. Then you can make other players expendable and actually trade them for prospects or draft picks to keep the prospect pool full.

WE gotta try the young guys first...you never know what can happen.

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Because of the contrats we have given our players, I don't see where we would even break even on any deal for a dman.

I'm not ready to give up on Dawes or Prucha.

Before we even do that, I would so suggest calling up some young kids and make the high priced low output guys sit out a game or two and watch from the press box.

Heck, I know he's not ready but call up Sangs before you even start trading people. A lot of people said Staal and Girardi weren't ready but they played great. If you can call up a few defensemen and they play well. Then you can make other players expendable and actually trade them for prospects or draft picks to keep the prospect pool full.

WE gotta try the young guys first...you never know what can happen.
Two things.

One- The organization has all but given up on Prucha. He is only here because they haven't found anyone to take his contract yet.

I like Prucha. I feel he can still have a good NHL career. It won't be with the Rangers, however.


Two- What is it with people talking about giving the young guys a chance. Have you looked at the roster? This is the YOUNGEST Rangers squad iced since the early 80's.

How old do people think these guys are?

Lundqvist- 26
Staal- 21
Girardi- 24
Zherdev- 24
Dubinsky- 22
Korpikoski- 22
Dawes- 23
Callahan- 23
Sjostrom- 25
Kalinin- 28
Mara- 29
Voros- 27
Orr- 26
Betts- 28
Gomez- 28

Those are the guys who are currently not healthy scratches. And are under 30. 8 of them are 25 or younger.


And there is NO ONE in Hartford to step up, other then Anisimov, Sanguinetti is not ready yet. And Anisimov is not ready yet either.

Guys like Weise, Soryal, Sudgen, Parenteau, etc.. have slim to no chance of being NHL players. Not for this team.

There are no young guys in Hartford or in Juniors that are ready.

And besides that, MOST of the guys in our lineup every night are in their EARLY 20's.

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Joel definately hasnt proven himself yet, but whenever we play dallas, it always seems like hes doing everything right.

The only reason he doesnt score against us is because Henrik knows his tendencies pretty well.
6 goals in 101 career games says he doesn't score against anyone, let alone his brother.

He would be absolutely pointless on this team.

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are you trying to say zetterberg is a gomez clone or something? he's a defensive forward not one of those guys that blazes up the ice and either scores or goes back down on a odd man rush.

Yes dubinsky to wing ,what is he doing thats so special on center right now? only reason i put J.lundqvist in there is obviously because it would benefit his brother to be on the same team.
I was saying nothing about Zetterberg's play. He's head and shoulders above every skater on this team (except MAYBE Z) in the completeness of his game. My string of facial expressions was simply to indicate the insane unlikelihood of Detroit moving a player who has been pegged as their future captain when they stand a chance of very well winning the Cup again.

And I'm not in favor of screwing up Dubi's development for instant gratification. He has all the tools to be a good second line center who plays physical and puts up some points. He's had a bad stretch but let's not forget what we saw him do in the beginning of the season. Hell, in the San Jose game we saw that he was getting his game back. Now is NOT the time to move him to wing. And even if it were, Joel Lundqvist is NOT the answer.

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Centers

J.Lundqvist(until otherwise dubinsky is not cut out for center imo)
Betts

Left Wing
Zetterberg please~!!!!! lol

Right Wing
Orr
Sykora <--- i can dream


Defense - nobody good on there that we can get for cheap anyway.
Mara and Ohlund?

now thats a line up i can live with.

Naslund-Gomez-Zherdev
Zetterberg-Drury-Shanahan
Sjostrom-Lundqvist-Dubinsky
Dawes/Prucha-Betts-Orr/Voros

Roszival-Staal
Redden-Girardi
Mara-Ohlund


Lundqvist
Valliquette


yeah i know we'd need like another 50m in cap space to get this line up , its a pipe dream
Have you looked at J Lundqvist's numbers? That's your 3rd line C?

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