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12-22-2008, 10:42 AM
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TSN-Montreal Top Prospects

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=260582&l...s=secStory_nhl

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12-22-2008, 11:41 AM
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Great article about Habs prospects

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2605...s=secStory_nhl

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12-22-2008, 11:49 AM
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I like their Pacioretty/Corson comp, I think Corson's career is a reasonable upper-limit expectation for Patches. I don't like White/Muller as much - I don't see how White can make the big team as a scorer. I still like Maltby as an upper-limit comp for White.

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Good read, nice to know we now have the depth we were lacking for so many years.

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I like their Pacioretty/Corson comp, I think Corson's career is a reasonable upper-limit expectation for Patches. I don't like White/Muller as much - I don't see how White can make the big team as a scorer. I still like Maltby as an upper-limit comp for White.
Corson was a grinder who could score an occasional goal. MaxPac is more skilled an offensive player. I don't really see the similarities. MaxPac reminds me of Ryan Smyth.

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12-22-2008, 12:19 PM
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Is that the same Shane Malloy who ran Hockey's Future newspaper?

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12-22-2008, 01:02 PM
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Corson was a grinder who could score an occasional goal. MaxPac is more skilled an offensive player. I don't really see the similarities. MaxPac reminds me of Ryan Smyth.
Smyth had quite a head start on Patches. At the same age (19 turning 20), Smyth proved he was too good for the AHL (6g 5a in 9 games) and played half a season in the big leagues. Stylistically, I don't see the kamikaze attitude Smyth plays with in Patches.

Corson had 23 points in 55 games as a 20 year old, and reached a point per game in his prime.

Pacioretty is skilled, but not enough to rely on his skills alone - he'll have to muck it up to have a good career, IMO.

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According to that article, Ben Maxwell has some grit.

Okay.

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although he seems to know his stuff hockey wise, that article (after reading it) seems like it was written by a 10 year old.

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According to that article, Ben Maxwell has some grit.

Okay.
He is renown as a guy who will take a hit to make a play. He surely is not a soft player.

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although he seems to know his stuff hockey wise, that article (after reading it) seems like it was written by a 10 year old.
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The two Russian prospect defenseman, Pavel Valentenko and Alexei Yemelin are on the verge of being passed over by the other defenseman soon.

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According to that article, Ben Maxwell has some grit.

Okay.
Cory Clouston, Kootenay Head Coach: “Depending on who we’re playing, whether it’s a road game or at home, it kind of varies who else he might play with. He’s a key guy for us because when you play teams with three good lines, Ben will be matched up with somebody who has a real good physical presence. Ben is a guy who will make things difficult for opponents. He generally responds quite well in the physical department."

Check his hf prospect page.

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12-22-2008, 01:42 PM
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Well, that was the way he played in the juniors - every player makes some changes to adapt to the NHL or AHL, where they're no longer playing only against other teenagers.

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With Dago now playing in the NHL... that 2005 draft looks even better...

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We know Habs have some excellent prospects/depth. However, we're missing the rarest of pieces: high-end Top 6 forwards. Pacioretty has the potential, Maxwell if we're lucky, and perhaps Kristo & Trunev down the road.

Time for Timmins to mine a Zetterberg or Datsyuk...later round offensive gems.

The only other way to locate big-time forwards is via UFA (and we don't have a good track record of late)

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Time for Timmins to mine a Zetterberg or Datsyuk...later round offensive gems.
While by no means Datsyuk/Zetterberg calibre, we do have Sergei Kostisyn as a 200th overall pick, Jaroslav Halak as a 271st overall pick, Matt D'Agostini as a 190th overall pick and I'd suggest people keep an eye out for Maxim Trunev, 138th overall pick.

Again, its no Datsyuk/Zetterberg, but those were some excellent high picks.

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12-22-2008, 03:25 PM
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I wonder if montreal will ever trade up in a draft. I mean, we have quantity, but I wonder if gainey will ever make a move for a top 5 or top 10 pick. We are fortunate to have an excellent scouting staff but a top offensive prospect wouldn't hurt.

By the way, anyone know why we didn't draft patrik berglund instead of fischer? besides wanting d prospects that is.

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12-22-2008, 03:37 PM
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By the way, anyone know why we didn't draft patrik berglund instead of fischer? besides wanting d prospects that is.
Berglund would have been a great addition. The impression I get, is that the Habs don't trust their Swedish scouts enough to use a 1st round pick on a Swede. That's just a (barely educated) guess though.

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Berglund would have been a great addition. The impression I get, is that the Habs don't trust their Swedish scouts enough to use a 1st round pick on a Swede. That's just a (barely educated) guess though.
He seems to be what we crave in the orgnization so long. I don't know his style of play but he seems that he'll be as valuable as a kopitar in LA.

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12-22-2008, 03:52 PM
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Or in other words, duh...!

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Corson was a grinder who could score an occasional goal. MaxPac is more skilled an offensive player. I don't really see the similarities. MaxPac reminds me of Ryan Smyth.
Yeah, I loved Corson in the day, but I sincerely hope that Pacioretty has more offensive panache than that. I think he might be a bit slicker than Ryan Smyth ,too, but maybe not the crease-crasher Smyth is.

The idea of a gritty, 6'2" forward filling out at 215 lbs with grit and skill, though, has me salivating.


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Yeah, I loved Corson in the day, but I sincerely hope that Pacioretty has more offensive panache than that. I think he might be a bit slicker than Ryan Smyth ,too, but maybe not the crease-crasher Smyth is.

The idea of a gritty, 6'2" forward filling out at 215 lbs with grit and skill, though, has me salivating.
IMO Pacioretty is more skilled, but Corson being way more aggressive... and I don't know about Ryan Smyth, I think Max is more of a playmaker than a scorer... Erik Cole ?

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Corson was a grinder who could score an occasional goal. MaxPac is more skilled an offensive player. I don't really see the similarities. MaxPac reminds me of Ryan Smyth.
And Ryan Smyth is an extremely similar player to Shayne Corson.

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