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12-26-2008, 10:26 AM
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12-26-2008, 10:49 AM
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12-26-2008, 10:52 AM
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They need a GM and organization that knows how to draft outstanding young talent.

Staal and Lundqvist in over 10 years is it.


Zero outstanding forwards. Zero. Zero. Zero.

Zero physical forwards that weigh more than 170 pounds.

How many organizations have developed less high-end talent at forward in that time period? They would have to have less than zero to accomplish the task.

Renney can't make forwards put the puck in the net if they don't already have that ability. You can't teach goal-scoring or size.

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12-26-2008, 10:54 AM
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4 fowards on the power play
and the last game against the devils and capitals proves how avery can help this team. he would have been huge in those games

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12-26-2008, 11:46 AM
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Some help for Dubinsky's line. Sjostrom belongs on the 4th line. Prucha should be on the 3rd with Korpikoski. Dubinsky needs SOMEONE with some skill on his line. Voros cannot keep op.

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12-26-2008, 11:58 AM
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Some help for Dubinsky's line. Sjostrom belongs on the 4th line. Prucha should be on the 3rd with Korpikoski. Dubinsky needs SOMEONE with some skill on his line. Voros cannot keep op.
Thank you! Voros has been dragging Dubinsky down for a while now, and Renney insists on having them together. He's too slow and doesn't have good enough hands to put away some of the quality chances Dubi creates (see the San Jose game).

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12-26-2008, 12:07 PM
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As an outsider....I think the rangers should put the players they have in the correct positions....Drury is getting a high salary BUT it's obvious that he lacks any type of offensive creativity. His attributes dictate him being a third line center (a great one at that) Make him the third line center already...stop trying to make him something he's not...a scorer.

Zherdev-Gomez-Naslund are the obvious offensive playmakers, after that I would have Dubinsky center the second line, he has potental and shows skill unlike the aforementioned Drury.

The major issue in my opinion is the Defense, not extremely talented offensively but not physical defensively either. I wouldn't know where to start with this group....Staal, Rozival (other than the shorties) are solid...can I safely say Redden & Kalinin are busts without getting killed for it now? Still...a solid trade deadline move to aquire a Jovanovski, Witt type of player could vastly improve this position.

All that said, I hope they do none of what was previously written.

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12-26-2008, 12:21 PM
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ok lets post one of the very few productive posts and certainly one that can be sent to the HQ

i will display 4 things that have to be considered and done

first of all

we cant get new players, we just dont have the cap!
and the others dont want to get worse by taking one of our probs.
the bad contracts are hardcore ****ed up and we have to live with em
so what can we do
i will say rozi will do fine ... if he shoots more more moremore mroemroemromeromo !!!! just shoot ***** ! at least 5 times a game ... then were cool

redden: not worth the money, but ok. what you wanna do? he has to catch fire ... and his fire is dead right now... so someone needs to llight it up ... AND THAT IS TOMS PUCKING JOB !!!!

if slowly some catch fire + lundqvist as a vulcano => we will be back on track

2. point: "the PP" = get a new pp coach ( me )

we usually shift one PPunit 1:30 and the other :30
we dont have the talent to have 2 good PP-units

ergo we need a new tactic !!!!
the one we have right now ... doesnt work obviously ,not only we dont score, not only we dont shoot, we also loose the puck easily and end up building the PP all the time instead of scoring on it.

this is a wild one but maybe someone will understand it
if we use Drury, Gomez, Z, Naslund and Rozi or (Redden/whoeverelse)

imagine all 5 PPPlayers constantly playing the puck while skating clockwise or anticlockwise, in a big circle around the PK core = confusion for the PK and goalie

and on the otherside it is a good mix of snipers wristers and slapers ,danglers and speedsters if someone looses the puck the King has a possibility of 8/10 to stop it ... not bad eh

3. point of the makeover

an ideological makeover

i have pointed this out already in the fire renney thread

THE RANGERS GET INTIMIDATED TOO QUICKLY!!!

speacially after the caps game, they all know that they can get a W against us anytime anyday anyhow
and we are those to be insecure of the LEADs we have , and the MOmentums we have ... and the Shutouts we have ...

we lack fire BIG TIME
and it is TOM TOM S JOOOB TO KEEP IT LIGHTENED

all of this is RENNEY'S JOB !!!

and if he does not get it done

(4. point = FIRE HIM IMMEDIATELY !!!!!!!!!!!)

it doesnt matter when in the season it is, if this team does not change in a couple of weeks, we are in deeeep ****

get rid of TomTom and get a new guy who gets the job done. period

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12-26-2008, 12:26 PM
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ok lets post one of the very few productive posts and certainly one that can be sent to the HQ

i will display 4 things that have to be considered and done

first of all

we cant get new players, we just dont have the cap!
and the others dont want to get worse by taking one of our probs.
the bad contracts are hardcore ****ed up and we have to live with em
so what can we do
i will say rozi will do fine ... if he shoots more more moremore mroemroemromeromo !!!! just shoot ***** ! at least 5 times a game ... then were cool

redden: not worth the money, but ok. what you wanna do? he has to catch fire ... and his fire is dead right now... so someone needs to llight it up ... AND THAT IS TOMS PUCKING JOB !!!!

if slowly some catch fire + lundqvist as a vulcano => we will be back on track

2. point: "the PP" = get a new pp coach ( me )

we usually shift one PPunit 1:30 and the other :30
we dont have the talent to have 2 good PP-units

ergo we need a new tactic !!!!
the one we have right now ... doesnt work obviously ,not only we dont score, not only we dont shoot, we also loose the puck easily and end up building the PP all the time instead of scoring on it.

this is a wild one but maybe someone will understand it
if we use Drury, Gomez, Z, Naslund and Rozi or (Redden/whoeverelse)

imagine all 5 PPPlayers constantly playing the puck while skating clockwise or anticlockwise, in a big circle around the PK core = confusion for the PK and goalie

and on the otherside it is a good mix of snipers wristers and slapers ,danglers and speedsters if someone looses the puck the King has a possibility of 8/10 to stop it ... not bad eh

3. point of the makeover

a ideological makeover

i have pointed this out already in the fire renney thread

THE RANGERS GET INTIMIDATED TOO QUICKLY!!!

speacially after the caps game, they all know that they can get a W against us anytime anyday anyhow
and we are those to be insecure of the LEADs we have , and the MOmentums we have ... and the Shutouts we have ...

all of this is RENNEY'S JOB !!!

and if he does not get it done

(4. point = FIRE HIM IMMEDIATELY !!!!!!!!!!!)

it doesnt matter when in the season it is, if this team does not change in a couple of weeks, we are in deeeep ****

get rid of TomTom and get a new guy who gets the job done. period
DID YOU JUST SAY ANTICLOCKWISE?????? "with a productive post you can send to HQ"

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12-26-2008, 12:29 PM
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DID YOU JUST SAY ANTICLOCKWISE?????? "with a productive post you can send to HQ"
whats wrong with anything said ?

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whats wrong with anything said ?

They call that counter clockwise in this country sir! just struck me as funny because you were trying to make an intelligent post.

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12-26-2008, 01:10 PM
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our defenseman making a good 1st pass to break thru the neutral zone, instead of our forwards coming back to our zone to carry the puck forward..

our defenseman never carry the puck up..

and dont even say redden, he turns the puck over everytime he tries.....

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How about they get a true top 6 forward line Antropov then move Dubi to the 2nd line with Drury on the Wing

then get a defensive 3rd line C to team with Korps and Cally........keep the 4th line as is and have Voros filling in

We all know there trade chips are picks, prospects like Sauer, Moore and Prucha Fritsche ,Dawes ...............also Kalinin has to go , if Backman was traded then a UFA like Kalinin can be too............bring in a cheap Dman

Maybe Edmonton or Ottawa has a fit since they need to shake things up too and Sather is buddies with Lowe.............also look towards St Louis with JD and Phoenix with Maloney.............we all know those are the logical fits

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12-26-2008, 02:16 PM
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I've called for a trade of one of Drury, Gomez and Redden as much as anyone on this board but a thought recently popped into my head.

Are we sure Sather wants to trade any of them? Are we sure he wants to get rid of Redden, Drury or Gomez to sign Zherdev, Girardi, Mara, Dubinsky?

Does he really care?

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12-26-2008, 03:09 PM
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The major issue in my opinion is the Defense, not extremely talented offensively but not physical defensively either.
All I can say is, it's by design. Sather consistently talked about assembling a defense that skated well, made those great outlet passes and could generate offense. It's not really a question of talent, more of utilizing that talent within Renney's strategy that also calls for fairly strict defensive responsibility.

BTW, I cay "anti-clockwise" all the time.

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Simple. Get Antropov.

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1-scoring winger.
2-hard hitting defenseman.
3-sand paper upfront.
I agree with the first 2 but i feel we have sandpaper upfront in Callahan. He is a hell of a gritty player and never seems to get credit for it.

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12-26-2008, 09:32 PM
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Fix the PP and all the other problems become a lot less debilitating. It's also the only realistic change since it requires no personnel moves and lots of practice.
The PP has been such a momentum killer for the Rangers and a momentum builder for the other team all season. I think we could safely say that half of their losses could be directly linked to the PP letting them down.

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Do you also happen to have a picture of Zherdev in the KHL?

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It's getting to the point where it would be beneficial to play 4 on 4 on the powerplay and just have a player stand back at our blue line and get the dumps and pass it back up. I like the idea of using 4 forwards on our first unit and overload it.

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Do you also happen to have a picture of Zherdev in the KHL?
Pfftt, not gonna happen. Zherdev is going to sign an extension before the season is over, he and Dubi are going to get 4-5 year deals.

Just watch.

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It's getting to the point where it would be beneficial to play 4 on 4 on the powerplay and just have a player stand back at our blue line and get the dumps and pass it back up. I like the idea of using 4 forwards on our first unit and overload it.
Im at the point where I think we should play 5 forwards. if were going to keep giving up shorties, and chances against, we might as well try to score with our 5 best forwards out there.

Drury, Dubi, Zherdev, Naslund and Gomez FTW!

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