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Better team: Boston or San Jose?

View Poll Results: Who is the better team?
Boston Bruins, 25-5-4 46 17.10%
San Jose Sharks, 27-4-3 210 78.07%
Even 13 4.83%
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12-26-2008, 04:31 PM
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San Jose, Boston won't get past the 2nd round in the playoffs just like Montreal.

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12-26-2008, 04:45 PM
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My 2 favorite teams. I'd love to say Boston here, but San jose takes it pretty easy IMO. I'll take second best.

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12-26-2008, 04:46 PM
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San Jose, Boston won't get past the 2nd round in the playoffs just like Montreal.
What are the lottery numbers?

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12-26-2008, 04:47 PM
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I've watched the Oil play both of them, and they lost to Boston in OT at home and won vs. San Jose in OT on the road - both on the PP - and while Boston is a tremendous team...the Sharks had me in awe of how good they were.

San Jose is the best team I've seen in a very long time. So much skill, they're plain scary!

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12-26-2008, 04:53 PM
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The Bruins have lost by one goal three times and two goals twice. They beat the Red Wings 4-1.

The Sharks have lost by one goal, four goals, and six goals. They got shut out by Detroit (still the gold standard for how good a team is) 6-0.

I'd say slight advantage Bruins just because they've kept pace and have had a lot of injuries lately.

I also see San Jose fading down the stretch (but not too far). I'm just not sold t hat Boucher is going to continue to be as good as he has been, while the B's have Thomas and Fernandez as established goalies.

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12-26-2008, 04:55 PM
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The Bruins have lost by one goal three times and two goals twice. They beat the Red Wings 4-1.

The Sharks have lost by one goal, four goals, and six goals. They got shut out by Detroit (still the gold standard for how good a team is) 6-0.

I'd say slight advantage Bruins just because they've kept pace and have had a lot of injuries lately.
Both of Boston's two goal defeats had empty netters.

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12-26-2008, 04:58 PM
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San Jose is probably the better team but I just like watching Boston so much more. Their youth amazes me and their exciting to watch.

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12-26-2008, 05:01 PM
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The Bruins have lost by one goal three times and two goals twice. They beat the Red Wings 4-1.

The Sharks have lost by one goal, four goals, and six goals. They got shut out by Detroit (still the gold standard for how good a team is) 6-0.

I'd say slight advantage Bruins just because they've kept pace and have had a lot of injuries lately.

I also see San Jose fading down the stretch (but not too far). I'm just not sold t hat Boucher is going to continue to be as good as he has been, while the B's have Thomas and Fernandez as established goalies.
Let's not fool ourselves into thinking that 1 loss to the wings was bigger than it really was.

The Sharks beat Detroit 4-2 in their first game against each other this season.

And why only mention Boucher? Nabokov is the Vezina Runner up out of all the goalies mentioned.
The sharks have been hampered by injuries worse than the Bruins thus far, losing Michalek, Cheechoo, Mitchell, Nabokov, Roenick, etc for extended periods, and losing Boyle, Pavelski, Lukowich etc for individual games.

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12-26-2008, 05:03 PM
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Let's not fool ourselves into thinking that 1 loss to the wings was bigger than it really was.

The Sharks beat Detroit 4-2 in their first game against each other this season.

And why only mention Boucher? Nabokov is the Vezina Runner up out of all the goalies mentioned.
People see to love forgetting about that. Every loss except 2 (Anaheim and Detroit) the Sharks outplayed their opponents badly.

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12-26-2008, 05:06 PM
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The Bruins have lost by one goal three times and two goals twice. They beat the Red Wings 4-1.

The Sharks have lost by one goal, four goals, and six goals. They got shut out by Detroit (still the gold standard for how good a team is) 6-0.

I'd say slight advantage Bruins just because they've kept pace and have had a lot of injuries lately.

I also see San Jose fading down the stretch (but not too far). I'm just not sold t hat Boucher is going to continue to be as good as he has been, while the B's have Thomas and Fernandez as established goalies.
The Sharks also beat Detroit (still the gold standard for how good a team is) 4-2.

And unlike the situation in Boston, Brian Boucher is a back-up goaltender, so to say that the Sharks will be disadvantaged down the stretch because he won't "continue to be as good as he has been" is a bit of a silly argument. The monster in net for San Jose only has one head, and his name is Nabby.

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12-26-2008, 05:10 PM
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People see to love forgetting about that. Every loss except 2 (Anaheim and Detroit) the Sharks outplayed their opponents badly.
Yeah, in almost every loss, they were beaten by a hot goalie and severely outplayed and outshot the teams, except for that Detroit loss. Some games, the bounces just go against you.

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12-26-2008, 05:24 PM
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Yeah, in almost every loss, they were beaten by a hot goalie and severely outplayed and outshot the teams, except for that Detroit loss. Some games, the bounces just go against you.
I don't know that Vokoun was so hot when the Sharks came to Florida...

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Edit: err... you said almost every. :-/

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12-26-2008, 05:26 PM
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I don't know that Vokoun was so hot when the Sharks came to Florida...

Link.

Edit: err... you said almost every. :-/
The Sharks outshot Florida 50-35 and ran circles around them most of the game. Vokoun had a 0.94% save % for the game.

Like I said. Some games, the bounces just do not go in for you, and go in every time against you. Some games, the bounces just go against you.

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12-26-2008, 05:32 PM
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Like others have said, a few of the Sharks losses were unbelievable, in that San Jose outshot the opposing team by a huge margin while the opposing goalie simply stood on his head.

That, and the Western conference is arguably tougher, so the Sharks record is made more impressive when they don't get to feast on teams like the Thrashers (Boston 3-0 against Atlanta, outscoring them by a margin of 16-9) and the Panthers (Boston 2-0 with 2 games to go, outscoring them by a margin of 8-4).

Although, one could argue that the San Jose schedule has been easy so far with all the home games, so I guess our record could be inflated because of that.

I still give the slight edge to the Sharks though, but DAMN is it fun to watch the Bruins nowadays, especially when they're beating up on the Canadiens.

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12-26-2008, 05:39 PM
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Like others have said, a few of the Sharks losses were unbelievable, in that San Jose outshot the opposing team by a huge margin while the opposing goalie simply stood on his head.
Not only that, but the quality of shots the Sharks get is scary! Setoguchi in particular really impressed me.

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12-26-2008, 05:53 PM
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San Jose Sharks

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12-26-2008, 05:54 PM
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Also, keep in mind the Sharks will have to travel a longer distance than any other team in the league, including 37,739 KM, or 23,450 miles more than the Bruins over the course of the season. That puts them at a definite disadvantage. (http://hockeynumbers.blogspot.com/20...-schedule.html)

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I'd take the Sharks.

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12-26-2008, 06:14 PM
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San Jose by quite a bit.

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12-26-2008, 06:43 PM
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Sharks are the better team. It wouldn't surprise me if either or both teams ended up 2nd in their conference, and in fact I might lean towards SJ as the team more likely to finished 2nd... but that's more due to having a great Detroit team contending than anything else.

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12-26-2008, 07:08 PM
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M.Savard (31): 34gms, 11gls, 40pts, +21, 19:19 (82gms, 27gls, 97pts, +51

P.Marleau (29): 34gms, 18gls, 40pts, +16, 21:24 (82gms, 43gls, 97pts, +39)
P.Kessel (21): 34gms, 21gls, 37pts, +16, 16:50 (82gms, 51gls, 89pts, +39)

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J.Pavelski (24): 32gms, 11gls, 24pts, +2, 18:50 (82gms, 28gls, 62pts, +5)
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P.J.Axelsson (33): 31gms, 1gls, 12pts, -4, 16:44 (82gms, 3gls, 32pts, -11)

M.Goc (25): 26gms, 1gls, 6pts, -3, 14:08 (82gms, 3gls, 19pts, -10)
S.Yelle (34): 34gms, 5gls, 10pts, +5, 13:00 (82gms, 12gls, 24pts, +12)

J.Shelley (32): 33gms, 1gls, 3pts, -2, 6:06 (82gms, 3gls, 8pts, -5)
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12-26-2008, 07:11 PM
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because SJ will keep theirs right?
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I'd go with the Sharks and I'm a Bruins fan.

Teams are pretty even, however I like the Sharks goaltending / defense a bit more.

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12-26-2008, 07:25 PM
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Boston has a nice edge in goaltending, and has better depth at forward and arguably on defense as well.

SanJose has the edge in offense from the blueline, and arguably on the first line forwards....but that's very arguable, it all depends on what you think of Kessel and Krejci.

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The Sharks but it's very close

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