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Washington has back to back games tonight (NYR) and tomorrow(PHI)... and with NYR starting LaBarbera, it gives WAS a perfect reason to start Charpentier.
To Washington: Ballard, 2nd
From Washington: Kolzig
This makes no sence for Ottawa (I'd take Lalime over Kolzig to begin with, a 2nd alone is enough), makes little sence for Colorado (they need a backup, not Lalime) and barely makes sence for Washington (No goaltender coming back, but they do get rid of Kolzig).
This makes no sence for Ottawa (I'd take Lalime over Kolzig to begin with, a 2nd alone is enough)
Every person in the Ottawa valley is calling for Lalime's head. He is horrible. I'm a sens fan and I give Lalime and a 2nd for Kolzig without 2nd thought (no pun intended)
Is it just me, or are we gonna see a thread pop up that a Kolzig deal might be finalized because he gets pulled in a close game for the extra attacker in the last minute or two?
Is it just me, or are we gonna see a thread pop up that a Kolzig deal might be finalized because he gets pulled in a close game for the extra attacker in the last minute or two?
Or worse yet, on a delayed penalty.
Seriously, how could anybody read anything into a goalie not starting?
Seriously, how could anybody read anything into a goalie not starting?
Thank you! I was thinking the same thing myself!
BTW, that proposal is awful from Colorado's perspective. They give up a VERY good prospect in Ballard and get Lalime in return. Why would they do this when the goal is to get a playoff goalie???
This makes no sence for Ottawa (I'd take Lalime over Kolzig to begin with, a 2nd alone is enough), makes little sence for Colorado (they need a backup, not Lalime) and barely makes sence for Washington (No goaltender coming back, but they do get rid of Kolzig).
if you really, REALLY think about it, everything you just said actually DOES make sense. this proposal makes sense for all 3 teams.
Anyone who would really prefer Lalime over Kolzig going into the 2004 playoffs hasn't been watching the pair of them very closely the last month. Now on fiscal grounds, Lalime is easier to swallow and will cost less. No argument there... but you know, there's a reason Kolzig makes more and is more expensive to acquire.
If the Caps do trade Kolzig, it is unlikely they will accept a goalie back in return. They need to make room at the NHL level for Ouellet and perhaps Stana in the role of Ouellet's backup. The Caps have goalies coming out of their ears as it is, and don't need another one. They would almost certainly ask for defense, whether young NHL-ready or a prospect.
The proposal immediately above addresses Ottawa and Washington needs, but why does Colorado want Lalime again? Not a great deal for them, methinks.
As for the original thread topic, Glen Hanlon does not play Kolzig in back-to-back games, and Kolzig is playing tonight. If Kolzig doesn't play tonight, go ahead and read into that move. For now, Hanlon just doesn't believe in his starter playing in back-to-backs.
if Kolzig does not play tonight against the Flyers then IMO you would have a legit trade rumour. Unlike Kolzig Charpy cannot play well enough to win by himself in front of our AHL defense.
The proposal immediately above addresses Ottawa and Washington needs, but why does Colorado want Lalime again? Not a great deal for them, methinks.
correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't Lalime have a great playoff last year? he's struggled of late, but i wasn't asking him to save the Avs. just an insurance policy in case Aebischer fails or is injured. Lalime would make a fine tandem with Abby in a Cup run, and Ballard is a price i'd be willing to pay.
I wouldn't be getting excited about any Kolzig movement. Olie told the Washington Post just yesterday that things had gone very quiet where a trade involving him was concerned. I would tend to believe that Kolzig is in the loop on that kind of thing.
The Caps must pay him $500k if they trade him. That is really a no trade clause. Something he would waive if he were traded to someplace he wanted to go to, something that he would not waive if he did not want to be traded or to be traded someplace he didn't want to go.
As for Lalime being better than Kolzig, that's certainly a matter of opinion. I believe that if you asked NHL scouts and GM's they would rank Kolzig over Lalime by a fairly large margin. Find a scout in the press box and ask him sometime. They will answer for you.
The Senators remind me a lot of the mid 80's Washington Capitals. Teams that were President's trophy contenders for 3 or 4 years and Cup contenders that just never happened. The Caps had a ridiculous defense with Langway, Stevens, Larry Murphy, Kevin Hatcher, Calle Johansson plus Mike Gartner on offense. The Sens have more star power on offense than defense, but he achilles heel of both teams was their lack of a top notch goaltender. Pat Riggin and Patrick Lalime are about the same level goalie for their era. Had that Caps team had Fuhr or Hrudey or Smith or even Mike Liut for more than half a season at the tail end of his career, the Caps might have won 2 or 3 cups. If the Sens had Broduer or Belfour, the same could be said for them.
I wouldn't be getting excited about any Kolzig movement. Olie told the Washington Post just yesterday that things had gone very quiet where a trade involving him was concerned. I would tend to believe that Kolzig is in the loop on that kind of thing.
The Caps must pay him $500k if they trade him. That is really a no trade clause. Something he would waive if he were traded to someplace he wanted to go to, something that he would not waive if he did not want to be traded or to be traded someplace he didn't want to go.
As for Lalime being better than Kolzig, that's certainly a matter of opinion. I believe that if you asked NHL scouts and GM's they would rank Kolzig over Lalime by a fairly large margin. Find a scout in the press box and ask him sometime. They will answer for you.
The Senators remind me a lot of the mid 80's Washington Capitals. Teams that were President's trophy contenders for 3 or 4 years and Cup contenders that just never happened. The Caps had a ridiculous defense with Langway, Stevens, Larry Murphy, Kevin Hatcher, Calle Johansson plus Mike Gartner on offense. The Sens have more star power on offense than defense, but he achilles heel of both teams was their lack of a top notch goaltender. Pat Riggin and Patrick Lalime are about the same level goalie for their era. Had that Caps team had Fuhr or Hrudey or Smith or even Mike Liut for more than half a season at the tail end of his career, the Caps might have won 2 or 3 cups. If the Sens had Broduer or Belfour, the same could be said for them.
The deal I would like to see is Boychuck and a 1st from the Avs. Caps could toss in a low pick or Kiwi.
Well another very strong performance by Kolzig last night and he had a shutout going until the final 40 seconds against the 3rd best team in the points standings. IMO no way he is not dealt by tuesday's deadline his play lately is similar to the way he played when he took the team to the finals even though he has very little support from his "AHL" defense.
Simply put, the Caps don't want him to get hurt and put the kibosh on everything.
Look what happened to the Canes? O'Neill goes down and they just lost some potential trade value if the injury is anything bad.
He played yesterday... Kolzig is not being held out, just not playing back-to-back games. When Hanlon was promoted, he announced that this would be how he would use Kolzig, and he has generally stuck to that format.
He played yesterday... Kolzig is not being held out, just not playing back-to-back games. When Hanlon was promoted, he announced that this would be how he would use Kolzig, and he has generally stuck to that format.
If anything, the Caps are showcasing Kolzig.
Agreed...it would not surprise me if we kept Kolzig. He is more valuable than a 2nd.
Agreed...it would not surprise me if we kept Kolzig. He is more valuable than a 2nd.
If the Caps keep him, it will be because of lack of interest, or more precisely the lack of a decent offer. The Caps are trying to unload his salary, though, without question.
