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12-31-2008, 08:24 AM
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Boston vs San Jose

Who would you put your money on if this were a Cup final?


Such great lines:

Savard, Kessel, Bergeron, Krejci, Lucic, Wheeler, Sturm, Ryder, Kobasew, Chara, Wideman, Thomas

Thornton, Marleau, Setoguchi, Michalek, Pavelski, Cheechoo, Clowe, Boyle, Blake, Vlasic, Nabokov

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12-31-2008, 08:33 AM
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Who would you put your money on if this were a Cup final?


Such great lines:

Savard, Kessel, Bergeron, Krejci, Lucic, Wheeler, Sturm, Ryder, Kobasew, Chara, Wideman, Thomas

Thornton, Marleau, Setoguchi, Michalek, Pavelski, Cheechoo, Clowe, Boyle, Blake, Vlasic, Nabokov
They both have to get there first, and I think the odds are good that one or both won't make it.

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12-31-2008, 08:47 AM
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They both have to get there first, and I think the odds are good that one or both won't make it.
Actually, since theyre both 1st in their repective conference, the "odds" are that they theyll both be in the Cup final.

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12-31-2008, 09:01 AM
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I don't know. I think the Bruins have better chemistry and better depth but it's all about experience in the playoffs. I.E. Wings/Penguins.

Penguins-solid depth but lack experience.
Wings- Solid depth as well but has huge post-season experience.



With that said, I think San Jose would win but it'd be a close 6 or 7 game series.

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12-31-2008, 09:05 AM
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Actually, since theyre both 1st in their repective conference, the "odds" are that they theyll both be in the Cup final.
Not really.

2007-08 top seeds to reach finals: 1-1
2006-07 top seeds to reach finals: 0-2
2005-06 top seeds to reach finals: 0-2
2003-04 top seeds to reach finals: 1-1
2002-03 top seeds t reach finals: 0-2
2001-02 top seeds to reach finals 1-1

So in the last 6 Stanley Cups a top seed has had a 25% chance of making the finals, and no Finals has been made up of 2 #1 seeds.

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12-31-2008, 09:54 AM
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Not really.

2007-08 top seeds to reach finals: 1-1
2006-07 top seeds to reach finals: 0-2
2005-06 top seeds to reach finals: 0-2
2003-04 top seeds to reach finals: 1-1
2002-03 top seeds t reach finals: 0-2
2001-02 top seeds to reach finals 1-1

So in the last 6 Stanley Cups a top seed has had a 25% chance of making the finals, and no Finals has been made up of 2 #1 seeds.
If we`re talking about "mathematical odds", then its the top 2 seeds. Taking history and experience in the playoffs into account is another story. But when you have teams like Edmonton, Calgary, Anaheim(03) coming within 1 game of winning the Cup I think its safe to say odds vs history/experience doesnt mean ****.


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I'd have to say San Jose.

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12-31-2008, 10:24 AM
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I don't know. I think the Bruins have better chemistry and better depth but it's all about experience in the playoffs. I.E. Wings/Penguins.

Penguins-solid depth but lack experience.
Wings- Solid depth as well but has huge post-season experience.



With that said, I think San Jose would win but it'd be a close 6 or 7 game series.
Sharks hae the edge in coaching, goaltending and defense. Both have solid offenses but the Sharks have a more veteran presence. Sharks should win on paper. that being said anything can happen in a 7 game series.

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They both have to get there first, and I think the odds are good that one or both won't make it.
It's not like the OP said that it was probable or even likely that this would be the finals match-up, they just said "if it were". They could have put in, say, Detroit vs. Washington and asked the same question, and neither of them are currently top in their conferences.

I'd go with the Bruins, but just because goaltending wins in the playoffs, and they have two equally capable netminders right now. If Thomas falters, Fernandez is there to play in his stead (or vice versa). I'm not sure if the Sharks could ride Boucher to the finals if Nabakov got hurt or struggled.

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Sharks hae the edge in coaching, goaltending and defense. Both have solid offenses but the Sharks have a more veteran presence. Sharks should win on paper. that being said anything can happen in a 7 game series.
Really? Goaltending/Defense? Really?

You'd take Nabakov/Boucher over Thomas/Fernandez?

You wouldn't take the team that has given up the least goals this season? Wow.

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bruins will choke again

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You'd take Nabakov/Boucher over Thomas/Fernandez?
Without even hesitating.

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12-31-2008, 11:32 AM
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Really? Goaltending/Defense? Really?

You'd take Nabakov/Boucher over Thomas/Fernandez?
You wouldn't take the team that has given up the least goals this season? Wow.
Yeah, pretty easily.

Nabokov is the horse - I don't see why this is a surprise. He's the most proven, and most talented overall.

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Really? Goaltending/Defense? Really?

You'd take Nabakov/Boucher over Thomas/Fernandez?

You wouldn't take the team that has given up the least goals this season? Wow.
Eummm...yes

Boucher Nabby is a horse,hes truly one of the better goaltenders in the game.

Sharks for me

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Sharks hae the edge in coaching, goaltending and defense. Both have solid offenses but the Sharks have a more veteran presence. Sharks should win on paper. that being said anything can happen in a 7 game series.
I don't see how the sharks have an edge in coaching. How many NHL playoff games has Todd McLellan won as an NHL head coach?

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Really? Goaltending/Defense? Really?

You'd take Nabakov/Boucher over Thomas/Fernandez?

You wouldn't take the team that has given up the least goals this season? Wow.
Yes! Yes, goaltending/defense! Yes!

Nabokov/Boucher over Thomas/Fernandez, yes!

I wouldn't take the team that has given up the least goals this season, no!



I hope that answers all your questions.

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Great! Another Boston - San Jose thread!

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Not really.

2007-08 top seeds to reach finals: 1-1
2006-07 top seeds to reach finals: 0-2
2005-06 top seeds to reach finals: 0-2
2003-04 top seeds to reach finals: 1-1
2002-03 top seeds t reach finals: 0-2
2001-02 top seeds to reach finals 1-1

So in the last 6 Stanley Cups a top seed has had a 25% chance of making the finals, and no Finals has been made up of 2 #1 seeds.

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Great. I'll tell you what. One the last day of the season when we know who the 2 #1 seeds are I'll be glad to make a wager with you. You can have the 2 #1 seeds and I'll have the field and we see who gets the finals predicted more accurately. Deal?

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12-31-2008, 05:39 PM
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Who would you put your money on if this were a Cup final?
Boston... But IMO, that's an unfair question for San Jose and Boston fans. Each fanbase is going to select their team... I would of put my money on the 2007-08 Bruins to win a The Cup.

A true, diehard fan will always put their money on their team.

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Great. I'll tell you what. One the last day of the season when we know who the 2 #1 seeds are I'll be glad to make a wager with you. You can have the 2 #1 seeds and I'll have the field and we see who gets the finals predicted more accurately. Deal?
Considering the field can't all make it to the finals, the wager is impossible.

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Great! Another Boston - San Jose thread!
Great! Another Habs fan jealous of the attention that Boston is getting!

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It's not like the OP said that it was probable or even likely that this would be the finals match-up, they just said "if it were". They could have put in, say, Detroit vs. Washington and asked the same question, and neither of them are currently top in their conferences.

I'd go with the Bruins, but just because goaltending wins in the playoffs, and they have two equally capable netminders right now. If Thomas falters, Fernandez is there to play in his stead (or vice versa). I'm not sure if the Sharks could ride Boucher to the finals if Nabakov got hurt or struggled.
Ok fine. If they both make it to the finals I'll go with Boston in 7, simply for the fact that I'm being a homer.

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Considering the field can't all make it to the finals, the wager is impossible.
Not really. If the 2 #1 seeds end up in the finals, you win.

If 1 of the #1 seeds makes it, it's a push.

If neither of the #1 seeds makes it, I win.

It's really not that difficult.

Whattya say?

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I see too many overachievers on the Boston side to go with them. I just can't see them keeping up to San Jose when the heat is on.

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