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01-01-2009, 02:40 AM
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Edm-fla/edm-pit

TO FLORIDA
shawn horcoff
MATHIEAU GARON

TO EDMONTON
THOMAS VOKOUN

TO EDMONTON
JORDAN STAAL
TYLER KENNEDY

TO PITTSBURGH
ROBERT NILSSON
ANDREW COGLIANO
1ST ROUND PICK

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01-01-2009, 02:42 AM
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01-01-2009, 02:43 AM
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Penner-Staal-Hemsky
Pouliot-Gagner-Cole
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01-01-2009, 02:47 AM
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Why is it that every Pittsburgh/Oiler proposal ends up in the Pens getting fleeced? Jordan Staal would be worth that alone let alone giving Edmonton TK as well. Horrible proposal

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TO FLORIDA
shawn horcoff
MATHIEAU GARON

TO EDMONTON
THOMAS VOKOUN

TO EDMONTON
JORDAN STAAL
TYLER KENNEDY

TO PITTSBURGH
ROBERT NILSSON
ANDREW COGLIANO
1ST ROUND PICK
Cogliano and a 1st for Staal and Kennedy isn't too good for Pit IMO. Nilsson probably has zero value.

Horcoff and Garon don't get you Vokoun

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01-01-2009, 02:50 AM
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TO EDMONTON
THOMAS VOKOUN

TO EDMONTON
JORDAN STAAL
TYLER KENNEDY

TO PITTSBURGH
ROBERT NILSSON
ANDREW COGLIANO
1ST ROUND PICK
Yeah, hell no. TK before his injury was on pace for a 50+ point season while playing on the 3rd line with Staal and Cooke, in his 1st full season in the NHL. As for Staal, I wouldn't want Shero to trade Staal for both of those players and the pick.

Pass from a Pens fan's point of view. Major pass.

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01-01-2009, 01:05 PM
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TO FLORIDA
shawn horcoff
MATHIEAU GARON

TO EDMONTON
THOMAS VOKOUN

TO EDMONTON
JORDAN STAAL
TYLER KENNEDY

TO PITTSBURGH
ROBERT NILSSON
ANDREW COGLIANO
1ST ROUND PICK
so lets break it down:
shawn horcoff<<JORDAN STAAL
MATHIEAU GARON<<THOMAS VOKOUN
TYLER KENNEDY>>ROBERT NILSSON

so that leaves ANDREW COGLIANO and the 1ST ROUND PICK to even things out...IMO thats too much from Edmonton..but being in two different trades the actuallly breakdown is:
shawn horcoff + MATHIEAU GARON>>THOMAS VOKOUN

JORDAN STAAL = ANDREW COGLIANO + 1ST ROUND PICK
TYLER KENNEDY = ROBERT NILSSON
if the Oilers are doing the two trades at the same time then Yes i would do it

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01-01-2009, 01:09 PM
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so lets break it down:
shawn horcoff<<JORDAN STAAL
MATHIEAU GARON<<THOMAS VOKOUN
TYLER KENNEDY>>ROBERT NILSSON

so that leaves ANDREW COGLIANO and the 1ST ROUND PICK to even things out...IMO thats too much from Edmonton..but being in two different trades the actuallly breakdown is:
shawn horcoff + MATHIEAU GARON>>THOMAS VOKOUN

JORDAN STAAL = ANDREW COGLIANO + 1ST ROUND PICK
TYLER KENNEDY = ROBERT NILSSON
if the Oilers are doing the two trades at the same time then Yes i would do it
That's some pretty crazy logic.

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01-01-2009, 01:09 PM
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I think itis time for Smid to giveup on coming up with trade ideas--I have yet to see one that is possible

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01-01-2009, 01:17 PM
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why would the Pens do this?

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01-01-2009, 02:33 PM
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No thanks from the Pens.

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01-01-2009, 02:38 PM
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I think itis time for Smid to giveup on coming up with trade ideas--I have yet to see one that is possible
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I personally wouldn't do either as an Oilers fan, and I doubt anyone would do either as a Florida/Pittsburgh fan.

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edmonton does'nt do either IMO. I dont get how most of you think PIT is getting fleeced?? seriously.. Colgiano=Staal 1st>>>Kennedy you guys are crazy if you think thats uneven. I think its edmonton getting fleeced.

The Florida trade is alright for edmonton but i dont like giving Horc to get a replacement of Staal. if edmonton is dealing Horcoff i think another center comes back in the deal.

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01-01-2009, 02:42 PM
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so lets break it down:
shawn horcoff<<JORDAN STAAL
MATHIEAU GARON<<THOMAS VOKOUN
TYLER KENNEDY>>ROBERT NILSSON

so that leaves ANDREW COGLIANO and the 1ST ROUND PICK to even things out...IMO thats too much from Edmonton..but being in two different trades the actuallly breakdown is:
shawn horcoff + MATHIEAU GARON>>THOMAS VOKOUN

JORDAN STAAL = ANDREW COGLIANO + 1ST ROUND PICK
TYLER KENNEDY = ROBERT NILSSON
if the Oilers are doing the two trades at the same time then Yes i would do it
haha. its not a mixture trade.. there seperate deals.

Shawn Horcoff ,Mathieau Garon >Thomas Vokoun (by a bit)
Andrew Cogliano,Robert Nilsson=Jordon Staal,Tyler Kennedy
1st>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .......

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Good to see that Pens fans are still over pricing Staal big time.

Edmonton wouldn't do this deal.

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TO EDMONTON
JORDAN STAAL
TYLER KENNEDY

TO PITTSBURGH
ROBERT NILSSON
ANDREW COGLIANO
1ST ROUND PICK
Replace Kennedy with something else and sure, you have a deal.

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01-01-2009, 04:03 PM
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Jordan Staal is way overrated IMO. No thanks.

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Good to see that Pens fans are still over pricing Staal big time.

Edmonton wouldn't do this deal.
Well said!

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Jordan Staal is way overrated IMO. No thanks.
Yeah because 3rd liner Jordan Staal and his 11 goals, 21pts would be 5th overall on the Oilers in pts, but tied for 1st for goals. A 20yr old Jordan Staal.

Yeah, we Pens fans totally overrate the guy and his solid pk skills and his offense finally getting back on track this year after a sophmore slump last season. Not that you Oilers fans don't understand what a sophmore slump looks like right?

No player on the current Oilers roster is going through one....right?

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Edmonton doesn't need to make a million trades every year. They just need a qualified GM/Coach.

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01-01-2009, 07:36 PM
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haha. its not a mixture trade.. there seperate deals.

Shawn Horcoff ,Mathieau Garon >Thomas Vokoun (by a bit)
Andrew Cogliano,Robert Nilsson=Jordon Staal,Tyler Kennedy
1st>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .......
what i was saying was that i wouldnt do only one trade i would only do them if both happen or else a big hole if left in the team in either trade

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01-01-2009, 08:04 PM
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so lets break it down:
shawn horcoff<<JORDAN STAAL
MATHIEAU GARON<<THOMAS VOKOUN
TYLER KENNEDY>>ROBERT NILSSON

so that leaves ANDREW COGLIANO and the 1ST ROUND PICK to even things out...IMO thats too much from Edmonton..but being in two different trades the actuallly breakdown is:
shawn horcoff + MATHIEAU GARON>>THOMAS VOKOUN

JORDAN STAAL = ANDREW COGLIANO + 1ST ROUND PICK
TYLER KENNEDY = ROBERT NILSSON
if the Oilers are doing the two trades at the same time then Yes i would do it
wait, you think the Oilers are OVER paying?!?

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01-01-2009, 08:05 PM
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My question is what does Nilsson bring that Kennedy doesn't and what does Colgiano bring that Staal doesn't? I don't see either of those guys adding anything to this current team that would help this team win. The first round pick is nice but we are not sellers right now so it does not make any sense to do this.

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Jordan Staal is way overrated IMO. No thanks.
No way I trade Horc for Stall.

But don't suggest he is overated. He would be the exact young replacement of Horcoff.

Stall is going to get a 4.5m-5.5m year contract with a NMC. Whether thats from Pitt, or another team.

Maybe we don't sign Cole next year and offer sheet him. A center group of Horc and Stall would be fine for the next 6 years.

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I think Staal for Penner, + might work. Edmonton gets a guy who IMO will be a first line center in the prime of his career, but Staal can't do that with Crosby and Malkin on the same team. Pitt would get at least a winger who can play w/ either Crosby or Malkin, and some draft picks/prospects that could project to be role players in the NHL wouldn't hurt Pittsburgh either.

And really, if you're Pittsburgh, you're not looking for a huge superstar. You have a solid mix of quality guys with plenty of NHL experience (Crosby, Malkin, Fleury,Gonchar if he gets healthy and Orpik) and a nice blend of younger guys (Kennedy, Letang, Goligoski). The pens don't need some big superstar to complete their team.

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