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01-01-2009, 10:38 AM
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LOL @ all the kids trying to make fun of him. Streit's doing it all offensively and if you're gonna use "fluh well he's SOOO BAD DEFENSIVELY" as your excuse well....he's so GOOD offensively that he has more points than anyone on our team. Go figure huh?
The problem is, you can score all you want, but it doesn't mean you don't have to play defense. You're just fooled by his offensive numbers and you are forgetting how bad the guy is defensively. At the end of the day, Mark Streit has 30 pts, and you'd think it helped his team... The Islanders are the worst team in the league right now.

Markov could have gone wild and play like a 4th forward and probably have 35 pts by now, but hey, he's a defense man, he has to play defense first and he actually does, and that what makes him one of the best D-man in the league...

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01-01-2009, 10:41 AM
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25 minutes + a game....He should have the points.......
25 minutes + a game.....playing with the Isles.....and he's only -5???

Sorry but that's probably more impressive than his point totals....

People should just acknowledge that we do miss him and we should've signed him in the middle of last season. Would've cost less and would've made our PP work.

Besides for whoever lives in a fantasy world.....he's not THAT bad defensively. He makes some mistakes.....geez, as if our d-men that we have doesn't do mistakes...

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01-01-2009, 10:43 AM
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Where exactly did we have the cap room to pay a 3rd line winger/dman 4 million plus. That's why he's gone, not cause BG didn't value him, or ignored him. Because his stats demanded more salary than WE were willing to pay him. If we pay him that we wouldn't be able to get Tanguay, or make a play for a real impact player at the deadline. For the record I don't care if the PP sucks and we still win. We had a great PP last year and it tanked in the playoffs leaving us dead in the water, I'll take my chancees with the team playing great defensively and 5 on 5
At that point we didn't have Lang, when Streit hit the market, and we had space to do it, heck, we were throwing $8 million at Sundin. You really don't think Streit could've taken less years but good money to stay here? As he's showing in New York now, he hasn't peaked yet, so he still has a chance for another payoff if he plays well like this for the next couple of years.

Then again, rationally, there would be no point for him to take a 2 year deal.

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25 minutes + a game.....playing with the Isles.....and he's only -5???

Sorry but that's probably more impressive than his point totals....

People should just acknowledge that we do miss him and we should've signed him in the middle of last season. Would've cost less and would've made our PP work.

Besides for whoever lives in a fantasy world.....he's not THAT bad defensively. He makes some mistakes.....geez, as if our d-men that we have doesn't do mistakes...
Who would you trade to make room for him on the right side, Komisarek ? Gorges ? not sign Breezer and pay him 3M$ to play 3rd pair ?

True, he would help the PP, get points... but we're 4th in the East, and even if his points were giving us 2 or 3 more wins, we'd still be 4th...

I trust Lang & Tanguay to be more effective in the playoffs anyway

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25 minutes + a game.....playing with the Isles.....and he's only -5???

Sorry but that's probably more impressive than his point totals....

People should just acknowledge that we do miss him and we should've signed him in the middle of last season. Would've cost less and would've made our PP work.

Besides for whoever lives in a fantasy world.....he's not THAT bad defensively. He makes some mistakes.....geez, as if our d-men that we have doesn't do mistakes...
Heh? I thought this team was trying to become a strong contender. Where exactly does Streit fit for 3 years playing even strength? Just like Souray, the Habs need to learn to not rely on any one player for the PP. They're better off in the long run.

If Streit is playing some solid hockey on D, that's great for him, but it's a moot point for the Habs because he wasn't reliable last year. He might not be so good on D in the next couple of years either.

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He wanted to sign for the Habs but gainey didn't even offer him a contract. I'm sure we could have signed him for $3M.
How can you possibly know that? It's pure speculation.

I liked Streit, he seemed like a goog guy, he was great on the PP and always impressed me with how flawlessly he could move from playing D to LW. All that being said, the team's structure would not allow BG to offer him anything close to the contract he signed in Long Island.

So he left, I wish him well, and no hard feelings.

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25 minutes + a game.....playing with the Isles.....and he's only -5???

Sorry but that's probably more impressive than his point totals....

People should just acknowledge that we do miss him and we should've signed him in the middle of last season. Would've cost less and would've made our PP work.

Besides for whoever lives in a fantasy world.....he's not THAT bad defensively. He makes some mistakes.....geez, as if our d-men that we have doesn't do mistakes...
Exactly !



And those +/- stats are so misleading... There is also 4 other skaters and a goalie on the ice with him. Streit plays against opponent's top lines, not fourth liners with no offensive skills.

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At that point we didn't have Lang, when Streit hit the market, and we had space to do it, heck, we were throwing $8 million at Sundin. You really don't think Streit could've taken less years but good money to stay here? As he's showing in New York now, he hasn't peaked yet, so he still has a chance for another payoff if he plays well like this for the next couple of years.

Then again, rationally, there would be no point for him to take a 2 year deal.
him on the team means either no Lang (25 pts, #1 in goals on the team) or Tanguay (26 pts)...

he got 30 pts, great for him! it isnt much more than the guys I mentionned though...

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25 minutes + a game.....playing with the Isles.....and he's only -5???

Sorry but that's probably more impressive than his point totals....

People should just acknowledge that we do miss him and we should've signed him in the middle of last season. Would've cost less and would've made our PP work.

Besides for whoever lives in a fantasy world.....he's not THAT bad defensively. He makes some mistakes.....geez, as if our d-men that we have doesn't do mistakes...
There is no way we know that is true. It's pure speculation.

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Yeah, he's so bad defensively, because he's -5. Good one guys


Andy Sutton 23 games +3
Mark Streit 38 games -5
Tomas Pock 28 games -8
Bruno Gervais 25 games -11
Freddy Meyer 24 games -12
Brendan Witt 26 games -15
Chris Campoli 33 games -16


All the while playing more games and more minutes against more top talent than anyone else on the D. Yep, so terrible

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I don't miss him, but the PP apparently is lost without him. Good for him, he's proving last year wasn't a fluke and he's earning his keep.

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25 minutes + a game....He should have the points.......
Exactly, not to mention he's on for the entire PP and all their PPs.

Time on ice and PP time is a huge factor in a guy's point production, 17:31 last season vs 25:10 now hmmmm. His actual projected 65 pts isn't much higher than last season so if anything he's a bit less productive.

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I trust Lang & Tanguay to be more effective in the playoffs anyway
Don't hold your breath when the playoffs start.

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Don't hold your breath when the playoffs start.
Guess you forgot how great was Streit in the last playoffs

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He's a good player, but he's putting up points on a really bad team. I'd be more impressed if he had the same totals on a good team. That said 4.1 million over 5 years wouldn't make sense for the role he'd play with the Habs

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He'd be fighting with breezer for #6 D spot. Also I'd rather have Dagger up front than Streit.

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Still miss him?

a lot

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He'd be fighting with breezer for #6 D spot. Also I'd rather have Dagger up front than Streit.
Fighting with Breezer? You can't be serious.

Brisebois: 32 GP; 3 G, 4 A, 7 pts, +3,
Streit: 38 GP; 8 G, 22 A, 30 pts, -5

And that's just stats; nothing against Breezer, but Streit is way better than him (despite the somewhat occasional bonehead giveaway) in his own move.

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Fighting with Breezer? You can't be serious.

Brisebois: 32 GP; 3 G, 4 A, 7 pts, +3,
Streit: 38 GP; 8 G, 22 A, 30 pts, -5

And that's just stats; nothing against Breezer, but Streit is way better than him (despite the somewhat occasional bonehead giveaway) in his own move.
So, knowin he plays RIGHT D, who do you trade/bench/demote to make room for him, Gorges or Komisarek ?

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25 minutes + a game.....playing with the Isles.....and he's only -5???

Sorry but that's probably more impressive than his point totals....

People should just acknowledge that we do miss him and we should've signed him in the middle of last season. Would've cost less and would've made our PP work.

Besides for whoever lives in a fantasy world.....he's not THAT bad defensively. He makes some mistakes.....geez, as if our d-men that we have doesn't do mistakes...
Agree. We do miss him. Some people just can't acknowledge that players who quit the habs can be good...It's pathetic. But this thread wasn't very necessary.

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He'd be fighting with breezer for #6 D spot. Also I'd rather have Dagger up front than Streit.
Breezer is pathetic
Streit is a top NHL dman....again NHL

enough said

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Islander fan here, Streit has been great for us this season. To be a -5 on our team is really good. And all of your claims that he can't play defense are completely untrue. Streit has proven this year that he can shut down opponents' top lines. He finishes his checks and wins the battles in the corners for the puck. Not to mention, he's a slick skater who leads our rushes and is an excellent powerplay QB. Streit is an extremely well rounded defensemen and to think anything else is foolish. If you watch Islanders games you'll see what I'm talking about. He's easily been one of the best free agent signings for the ISlanders in years and the Canadiens would be better with him if he were used properly, because he isn't a third line winger, he's a top defensemen.

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So, knowin he plays RIGHT D, who do you trade/bench/demote to make room for him, Gorges or Komisarek ?
Brisebois -- to press box, O'Byrne to minors.

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Islander fan here, Streit has been great for us this season. To be a -5 on our team is really good. And all of your claims that he can't play defense are completely untrue. Streit has proven this year that he can shut down opponents' top lines. He finishes his checks and wins the battles in the corners for the puck. Not to mention, he's a slick skater who leads our rushes and is an excellent powerplay QB. Streit is an extremely well rounded defensemen and to think anything else is foolish. If you watch Islanders games you'll see what I'm talking about. He's easily been one of the best free agent signings for the ISlanders in years and the Canadiens would be better with him if he were used properly, because he isn't a third line winger, he's a top defensemen.
What you're saying is true, saw a few Isles games and he's more than decent... thing his he lost his chance to remain a Habs in the playoffs, his play was beyond pathetic...

not saying he would be like that again - there's no guarantees either way, but it's a 4M$ risk...

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Him and his -5? All the points in the world mean zero, if you're giving up more than you score. Nice troll, though.
Phillips is -19 and Volchenkov is -13

Would you or anyone argue that they are terrible in the defensive end?

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