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01-02-2009, 11:17 AM
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Montreal could trade Higgins for a 1st-round pick in the 15-20 range.

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01-02-2009, 11:20 AM
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Kind of OT, but I always thought it would be kind of badass if two GMs that didn't like each other just traded 1st round picks straight up. Kind of a bet to see which one is better. That way, the one with the better team also gets the better pick. Totally unrealistic and stupid, of course, but this is the trade section on HF, so it fits in nicely.

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Kind of OT, but I always thought it would be kind of badass if two GMs that didn't like each other just traded 1st round picks straight up. Kind of a bet to see which one is better. That way, the one with the better team also gets the better pick. Totally unrealistic and stupid, of course, but this is the trade section on HF, so it fits in nicely.
Edmonton and Toronto x)

Oh what a joy that would be.

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Ottawa might be receptive since it's unlikely they'll end up with a top 2 pick. Since Ottawa has a lot of money tied up in elite talent already, it might make sense to add depth rather than top talent.

Something like what was proposed could do:
McDonagh, Pacioretty, Halak/Higgins and a 1st

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01-02-2009, 11:47 AM
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Montreal could trade Higgins for a 1st-round pick in the 15-20 range.
Not a chance that would happen. I like Higgins but he has not stepped up his game. A second round pick no problem. No way a first. Teams covet first round picks because they expect a first round pick to make the NHL and cost nothing for years. Young NHL players don't cost money. Teams need to cycle them in to keep the payroll down

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01-02-2009, 11:58 AM
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Chris Higgins and Sergei Kostitsyn are 50 point players and that's being generous. There is absolutely nothing unique about either! Sure these guys can put up 40-55 points if given the opportunity but they're certainly not players that a team builds around or cannot find every free agency period. And they're definitely not players that an organization would trade a franchise for. Chris Higgins and the Kostitsyn's are marginal top 6 talents.

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Link?

He's a RFA next and he's probably going to want Stoll money even though he doesn't deserve it (not that Stoll did either).

How much offensively is Higgins going to boast a cup-contender? He probably wouldn't crack most contenders top 6 and if teams were looking for 3rd line guy that can win a draw and be responsible in all zones then I'm sure the avenue they would go down would to be to move a 3rd or 4th for a Mike Sillinger type.

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Edmonton and Toronto x)

Oh what a joy that would be.
Bring it on.

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Why does Montreal want a top 5 pick? We're done rebuilding

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Chris Higgins and Sergei Kostitsyn are 50 point players and that's being generous. There is absolutely nothing unique about either! Sure these guys can put up 40-55 points if given the opportunity but they're certainly not players that a team builds around or cannot find every free agency period. And they're definitely not players that an organization would trade a franchise for. Chris Higgins and the Kostitsyn's are marginal top 6 talents.



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He's a RFA next and he's probably going to want Stoll money even though he doesn't deserve it (not that Stoll did either).

How much offensively is Higgins going to boast a cup-contender? He probably wouldn't crack most contenders top 6 and if teams were looking for 3rd line guy that can win a draw and be responsible in all zones then I'm sure the avenue they would go down would to be to move a 3rd or 4th for a Mike Sillinger type.
And yet we wonder what made Lowe/Tambellini give Horcoff a 6M contract after having only one 70+pts season? My point is you are too quick to judge our young players.

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Ottawa might be receptive since it's unlikely they'll end up with a top 2 pick. Since Ottawa has a lot of money tied up in elite talent already, it might make sense to add depth rather than top talent.

Something like what was proposed could do:
McDonagh, Pacioretty, Halak/Higgins and a 1st
I think Edmonton and Ottawa could potentially have a trade that makes sense.

Ottawa seems to lack depth in the farm and Edmonton has plenty but not that much top end talent.

Maybe something like Rob Schremp, Ryan O'marra, 3rd round pick (60-75 range) for the Sharks first round pick (25-30 range).

Schremp was recently called up to Edmonton and netted 3 assists in 4 games and a +2 rating. Even that wasn't enough for Craig MacTavish, who's top 6 is starving offensively. The kid has been putting up a PPG for the last 2 years but for whatever reason he doesn't seem to be in Edmonton's plans. Ryan O'marra has fallen off big time but he's still only 21 and still has the tools to be a more reliable Jordin Tootoo.

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If Ottawa has the 1st overall pick then maybe, O'byrne, Chipchura, and Higgins for 1st overall + prospect(Zubov).
Please tell me you are joking

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If you guys wanted a top five pick, you'd have to give up the Kost. Bros +++. Or Price.

It wouldn't be worth it.

Nobody is giving up a top five pick barring massive overpayment.

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Please tell me you are joking
Yeah, I'd hope so.

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Why does Montreal want a top 5 pick? We're done rebuilding
no, but except for Price we don't have any prospects that you would consider building your team around, unless the Kostitsyn's explode offensively. Could you imagine having one day the Ellis-Subban combo on our pp? or having a center like Schroeder who has the potential to be a true #1 center? That would be beyond awesome

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no, but except for Price we don't have any prospects that you would consider building your team around, unless the Kostitsyn's explode offensively. Could you imagine having one day the Ellis-Subban combo on our pp? or having a center like Schroeder who has the potential to be a true #1 center? That would be beyond awesome
But how many teams truly have a prospect who they can build around?

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Not a chance that would happen. I like Higgins but he has not stepped up his game. A second round pick no problem. No way a first. Teams covet first round picks because they expect a first round pick to make the NHL and cost nothing for years. Young NHL players don't cost money. Teams need to cycle them in to keep the payroll down
Meh....I wouldn't think twice to give up a lower 1st round pick (twenty-something+) for Higgins. He's worth more than a 2nd round pick.

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for the first overall pick (tavares):

plekanec higgins obyrne fischer/carle 1st round pick

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Ottawa might be receptive since it's unlikely they'll end up with a top 2 pick. Since Ottawa has a lot of money tied up in elite talent already, it might make sense to add depth rather than top talent.

Something like what was proposed could do:
McDonagh, Pacioretty, Halak/Higgins and a 1st
4 first rounders for 1 that isn't even second overall? Yeah no thanks.

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for the first overall pick (tavares):

plekanec higgins obyrne fischer/carle 1st round pick
Brutal.

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I don't think it would be in the best interests of the Habs to acquire a top 5 pick. Acquiring a top 5 pick, no matter which one would require the Habs to upgrade their 1st round pick (which is probably gonna be in the 20's) because no team choosing top 5 would have any interest in dropping that much and to do that the Habs would have to trade some assets to get a top 15 pick. After doing that they would have to trade some more assets to move up to a top 5 pick, and I think in the end that would hurt the Habs more in the long run rather than help them.

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If Ottawa has the 1st overall pick then maybe, O'byrne, Chipchura, and Higgins for 1st overall + prospect(Zubov).
That is a terrible offer, I'm fairly sure Melnyk would veto that trade and fire Murray on the spot if Murray ever tried it.

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Brutal.
care to explain why

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Back to the Habs, it will all depend on which team gets that 1st overall pick:

If Tampa has the first overall then maybe Halak, Latendresse and Higgins for 1st and prospect.
Wow that's terrible. Especially since we have no need for Halak.

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care to explain why
Plekanec has some value but not that much, the rest is just trash.

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If the Islander have it then it might look like this: Chipchura, Latendresse and Habs 1st round pick for 1st overall.
I am sorry, but we aren't trading away a generational talent for those players and a 25-30 overall pick.

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