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03-05-2004, 11:17 PM
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Wiemer to Ottawa?

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Sure, it would be nice to add Wiemer, but who sits in the playoffs? We are starting to accumulate alot of warm body forwards, and while having depth is nice, there is such a thing as too much of it.

I'd rather see the Sens add a defenseman who can log alot of minutes.

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If its Wiemer straight up for Varada I'd do it.

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hey guys I'm a Panthers fan I can give you a little in sight on Wiemer. Jason is a decent faceoff man who would play a 3rd 4th line role he angers other players into taking bad penalties and he can every now and then chip in a goal but those goals when scored are usually big ones. I'd say he's a more physical, leadership but slower player then Varada who is almost a clone of Wiemer. Also Jason's a great guy to have in the locker room I.E. (playoff type player)

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If its Wiemer straight up for Varada I'd do it.
Anyone would think you didn't like Varada or something....

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03-06-2004, 11:54 AM
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Bob Mackenzie was talking about Weimer, and I didn't catch it all, but apparently Ottawa have some kind of rights concerning Weimer. Does anybody know what that is about?

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when the isles waived him earlier this season...Minnesota, Rangers and the Sens put in claims for him.

If Minnesota trades Weimer...the Rags or Sens could nix the trade and claim Wiemer...that's the short version.

I would LOVE to get him here...get's Van Allen off the bloody ice.

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I think Wiener would fit in well with the Sens.

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hey guys I'm a Panthers fan I can give you a little in sight on Wiemer. Jason is a decent faceoff man who would play a 3rd 4th line role he angers other players into taking bad penalties and he can every now and then chip in a goal but those goals when scored are usually big ones. I'd say he's a more physical, leadership but slower player then Varada who is almost a clone of Wiemer. Also Jason's a great guy to have in the locker room I.E. (playoff type player)
Appreciate the input - I think Wiemer would be an excellent addition to the team... a 4th line centre with a bit more faceoff ability, more imposing toughness, and a bit more leadership to him. Plus Wiemer has some PK ability as well, which is frequently the argument made in Van Allen's defence. I have nothing personal against Van Allen, but I've just found him to be ineffective or even a liability on a few too many nights. Wiemer is a physical presence who can play 10-15 minutes/night easily... come April this is going to mean a lot more than the limited minutes the enforcers will be seeing.

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Minnesota will have to get a decent return (mid-range prospect that is a bit of a project ala give him 2-3 years in the minors) or something or else they will sign him back most likely for around 2-3 million a year. We haven't retained a lot of veterans, and he's one of the ones that has been rumoured to come back.

 
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If its Wiemer straight up for Varada I'd do it.
I'd like Weimer, but that is just dumb. Varada is not as tough (fighting wise) be he is twice the player.

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I'd like Weimer, but that is just dumb. Varada is not as tough (fighting wise) be he is twice the player.
Twice the player? Let's look at a few statistics:

Varada Career: 416 53 109 162
Career Per 82 Games: 10-21-31

Wiemer Career: 663 88 108 196
Career Per 82 Games: 11-13-24

Thus we can establish that they are pretty equal in terms of goal scoring ability, while Varada is a better passer. Both have never scored more than 11 goals in a season, nor more than 27 assists in a season. Varada isn't much of an offensive player and the difference between he and Wiemer offensively is negligible. Additionally, I would surmise (just guessing here) that Varada has played on better lines than Wiemer who has always played on the 3rd/4th line, while Varada, even when playing with Hossa has only 18 points in 40 games - not much better than Van Allen did when playing with Hossa.

Finally, A line of Wiemer-Neil is much more attractive than a line of Varada-Neil in terms of toughness.

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I haven't seen enough of Weimer to comment...but Varada has been great for us. That guy goes out there, takes beatings but still comes out with the puck and pisses off the other team to no end.

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Wiemer's faceoff percentage is actually pretty poor, in fact he would be, percentage wise, the worst on the team at 43%.

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Ill throw my 2 cents in, as an Islanders fan. I am a huge wiemer fan, but being realistic. He has little to no offensive ability but has a decent wrist shot. Pretty good defensively, but takes horrible penalties, and is prone to the bad pass. Have seen them a bunch of times from him.

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Ill throw my 2 cents in, as an Islanders fan. I am a huge wiemer fan, but being realistic. He has little to no offensive ability but has a decent wrist shot. Pretty good defensively, but takes horrible penalties, and is prone to the bad pass. Have seen them a bunch of times from him.

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Ill throw my 2 cents in, as an Islanders fan. I am a huge wiemer fan, but being realistic. He has little to no offensive ability but has a decent wrist shot. Pretty good defensively, but takes horrible penalties, and is prone to the bad pass. Have seen them a bunch of times from him.
hmm...sounds like a major upgrade over Van Allen...we need Weimer even more now

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03-08-2004, 09:54 AM
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If its Wiemer straight up for Varada I'd do it.
This is why you'll never be a GM...

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Seeing that the Wild are gettin g draft picks for all of their vets, what would Ottawa be likely to cough up for Wiemer?

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Don't be hasty! Maybe the Islanders are hiring...

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