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01-03-2009, 11:56 AM
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B's are playing very this season...they are scoring alot of goals which is very surprising...but they are still the B's, the season is long...

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01-03-2009, 11:58 AM
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Bruins better win it this year, because next year they have Cap problems - Big time. They will not stay together.

How long do you think Lucic, arguably the best PF in the league, goes along with playing for $850,000 per year?? I smell a holdout.

Boston Cap is already 12 million higher than Canadiens, (63 millions vs. 51 million)

Zdeno Chara $7,500,000
Marc Savard $5,000,000
Patrice Bergeron $4,750,000
Manny Fernandez $4,333,000
Glen Murray $4,150,000
Michael Ryder $4,000,000
Dennis Wideman $3,938,000
Marco Sturm $3,500,000
Tuukka Rask $3,200,000
Aaron Ward $2,500,000
Chuck Kobasew $2,333,000

Lot of big salarys there - but look at where some of there Best Players are at:

Phil Kessel $2,200,000
David Krejci $883,000
Milan Lucic $850,000

Kessel and Krecjci are Restricted Free Agents.
Lucic is signed next year - but they will need to renegotiate, no way he plays for that low salary next year.

Boston cap hit for next year $43 million
Montreal's cap hit for next year is... only $21 million
All good young teams face cap issues as the team plays well, and the young guys want their $$$$, not just the Bruins who will be hard to keep together...

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01-03-2009, 12:02 PM
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Yes Jerome Iginla might have an issue with Lucic being called the best power forward. I'll take Shane Doan as well before Lucic. I want to add Eric Staal to the list as well.
I wonder what Alex Ovechkin has to do to be considered a power forward already... the guy is an absolute wrecking ball.

How about Rick Nash? Brenden Morrow?

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01-03-2009, 12:04 PM
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Oh please, can we stop the Bruins fixations???

We are becoming just as pathetic as them !

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01-03-2009, 12:11 PM
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Oh please, can we stop the Bruins fixations???

We are just as pathetic as them !
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01-03-2009, 12:23 PM
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Bruins better win it this year, because next year they have Cap problems - Big time. They will not stay together.

How long do you think Lucic, arguably the best PF in the league, goes along with playing for $850,000 per year?? I smell a holdout.

Boston Cap is already 12 million higher than Canadiens, (63 millions vs. 51 million)

Zdeno Chara $7,500,000
Marc Savard $5,000,000
Patrice Bergeron $4,750,000
Manny Fernandez $4,333,000
Glen Murray $4,150,000
Michael Ryder $4,000,000
Dennis Wideman $3,938,000
Marco Sturm $3,500,000
Tuukka Rask $3,200,000
Aaron Ward $2,500,000
Chuck Kobasew $2,333,000

Lot of big salarys there - but look at where some of there Best Players are at:

Phil Kessel $2,200,000
David Krejci $883,000
Milan Lucic $850,000

Kessel and Krecjci are Restricted Free Agents.
Lucic is signed next year - but they will need to renegotiate, no way he plays for that low salary next year.

Boston cap hit for next year $43 million
Montreal's cap hit for next year is... only $21 million
Rask is 850,000 from this link ; http://www.thefourthperiod.com/Boston.html


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01-03-2009, 12:26 PM
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This isnt the Ruins board, **** off

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01-03-2009, 12:56 PM
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Why the pathetic whining over posting a Bruins topic? There are too many short guys who wanna be policemen here. Bergeron is bagged. One goalie is gone. Lucic would be happy with 2 mill(He is amazing). It is the habs overpaying for nonperformance. Kessel is becoming a star.

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01-03-2009, 01:04 PM
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All Habs fans unite and get Lone Rogue Mod status...
I wouldn't even clean up threads. I'd be handing out suspensions like they were hot cakes. And yes, I hand out hot cakes very fast.

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01-03-2009, 01:13 PM
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So should we just convert to Bruinism?

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01-03-2009, 01:15 PM
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Bruins better win it this year, because next year they have Cap problems - Big time. They will not stay together.

How long do you think Lucic, arguably the best PF in the league, goes along with playing for $850,000 per year?? I smell a holdout.

Boston Cap is already 12 million higher than Canadiens, (63 millions vs. 51 million)

Zdeno Chara $7,500,000
Marc Savard $5,000,000
Patrice Bergeron $4,750,000
Manny Fernandez $4,333,000
Glen Murray $4,150,000
Michael Ryder $4,000,000
Dennis Wideman $3,938,000
Marco Sturm $3,500,000
Tuukka Rask $3,200,000
Aaron Ward $2,500,000
Chuck Kobasew $2,333,000

Lot of big salarys there - but look at where some of there Best Players are at:

Phil Kessel $2,200,000
David Krejci $883,000
Milan Lucic $850,000

Kessel and Krecjci are Restricted Free Agents.
Lucic is signed next year - but they will need to renegotiate, no way he plays for that low salary next year.

Boston cap hit for next year $43 million
Montreal's cap hit for next year is... only $21 million
like he has a choice... especially him , bear blood going arround his body , no way he complains, no way he leaves.

Bergeron or fernandez could be traded .... for a halak type of guy + 1rst rounder. (not halak , but a similar player , again , not halak, but a similar player)

can't lose kessel and kreci ... they will do whatever they can to hold on to them.

but in the end , tukka rask and fernandez ... 7.5 m ... pretty sure that's where they'll cut.

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01-03-2009, 01:20 PM
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Hopefully the Bruins overpay Thomas based on the career year he's having. Otherwise, I think they'll be fine next year. Money saved from Fernandez and Axelsson's contracts should offset much of the RFA's raises. IMO, the real trouble for the Bruins starts when Savard's bargain of a contract runs out after next season.

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01-03-2009, 01:39 PM
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What a lame month December was, No Boston and No Toronto.

Bring em ON!!!!

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01-03-2009, 02:11 PM
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I'd like to meet Philadelphia in the first round the most. Pittsburgh would be my second choice.
the way I see it is that you have to beat everybody , and for the sake of the game, I'd love to see the bruins and give them our ususal slap in the face when comes spring...

yes we can

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01-03-2009, 02:31 PM
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They Lost. Tears of agony are so yummy.

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01-03-2009, 02:33 PM
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At this point will be big disappointment if Bruins do not win the East.
Lets see how they handle the pressure of being a 1st seed from here on - so far they are doing incredible.

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01-03-2009, 02:54 PM
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like he has a choice... especially him , bear blood going arround his body , no way he complains, no way he leaves.

Bergeron or fernandez could be traded .... for a halak type of guy + 1rst rounder. (not halak , but a similar player , again , not halak, but a similar player)

can't lose kessel and kreci ... they will do whatever they can to hold on to them.

but in the end , tukka rask and fernandez ... 7.5 m ... pretty sure that's where they'll cut.

As already pointed out, Rask's salary is only $850K, not $3M. Fernandez will surely be traded before the deadline and Rask will become Thomas's backup. However, it's unlikely that any GM would trade a prospect plus a first for Fernandez, who's about to become a UFA. Sturm and Axelsson can be unloaded. In short, the cap won't be a problem for the Bruins in 2009-10.

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01-03-2009, 02:55 PM
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You can't renegociate a contract... by your logic, Price could hold-out a want 6mil per season...

They are in a much better shape than us for next year, the core of the team is signed...

The only real question mark is Kessel, but they'll be able to trade away players to fit him in...

We, on the other hand, have a ton of UFAs and I still don't understand why Gainey hasn't sign Komisarek and Koivu (or at least negociated)...

If he's not carefull, we'll be the Buffalo Sabres v2.0

Habs are in the best situation for next year, cap wise.
I actually think Bob Gainey is genius here. An extra $20 million to maneuver over a team like Boston is huge.

The only guy we MUST sign is Komisarek IMO.
The rest of the free agents are aging including my namesake Koivu, sadly.

Recessionary times, I don't see teams throwing around tons of money at the Aging Hab Free Agents. Plus they don't have the cap space to do so even if they wanted to.
I think some of them (if Gainey still wants them) can be signed for much less money.

It gives Gainey options, the Bruins will have very little, that was my point.

Gainey will have $$$ to sign some free agents from other teams, including the cap space to make a trade for a couple of good blue chippers from a Financially struggling team like Phoenix etc.

That $20 million extra will open up a lot of doors.
And in Gainey I trust!

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01-03-2009, 03:07 PM
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Bruins better win it this year, because next year they have Cap problems - Big time. They will not stay together.

How long do you think Lucic, arguably the best PF in the league, goes along with playing for $850,000 per year?? I smell a holdout.

Boston Cap is already 12 million higher than Canadiens, (63 millions vs. 51 million)

Zdeno Chara $7,500,000
Marc Savard $5,000,000
Patrice Bergeron $4,750,000
Manny Fernandez $4,333,000
Glen Murray $4,150,000
Michael Ryder $4,000,000
Dennis Wideman $3,938,000
Marco Sturm $3,500,000
Tuukka Rask $3,200,000
Aaron Ward $2,500,000
Chuck Kobasew $2,333,000

Lot of big salarys there - but look at where some of there Best Players are at:

Phil Kessel $2,200,000
David Krejci $883,000
Milan Lucic $850,000

Kessel and Krecjci are Restricted Free Agents.
Lucic is signed next year - but they will need to renegotiate, no way he plays for that low salary next year.

Boston cap hit for next year $43 million
Montreal's cap hit for next year is... only $21 million
Murray is a buyout cap hit of 1.38M$ for 2 years.

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01-03-2009, 03:09 PM
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There are multiple sites quoting Rask at 3.2 million.

one of them said
"first of all i wonder if they can afford to have rask to be their backup-goalie given his cap hit of 3.2 mill. (including bonuses!)..."

maybe that 850k figure does not take the bonus they are shelling out to him.

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01-03-2009, 03:15 PM
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There are multiple sites quoting Rask at 3.2 million.

one of them said
"first of all i wonder if they can afford to have rask to be their backup-goalie given his cap hit of 3.2 mill. (including bonuses!)..."

maybe that 850k figure does not take the bonus they are shelling out to him.
Isnt that way over the rookie limit? Even including bonuses?


Plus, if he's not on the roster, would he not count towards the cap?

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01-03-2009, 03:20 PM
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I think the OP is a Bruins fans disguise like a Habs partisan

I mean I got no problems talking Habs VS Bruins but CMON


who give a S/"$% about they cap %$?&

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The individual numbers really don't matter that much - what is important is collectively the Bruins go into 2009-10 with $43 million, the Habs only $21 million.

This will have big impact this summer, so enjoy it now Bruins fans - because it won't be the same team next year - sorry.

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The individual numbers really don't matter that much - what is important is collectively the Bruins go into 2009-10 with $43 million, the Habs only $21 million.

This will have big impact this summer, so enjoy it now Bruins fans - because it won't be the same team next year - sorry.
Bruins fans dont read this board...go post this on theirs

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Bruins fans dont read this board...go post this on theirs
Are you kidding? - I was suprised to see how many Bruin fans are on this board spewing their crap.

Tired of their posts, need to give them a dose of reality of what their team will look like next year.

Those that dont like about Team Salary Caps - go read another post - there are a zillion of them here !

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