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01-04-2009, 10:02 AM
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Developing a better Snap shot / Wrist shot

Can anyone here recommend tips to improve my snap shot and wrist shot? I mean, I know how to pull them off, but theres no "zing" to them at all and while I can usually aim it in the general area of where I want to go its not very fast at all...What am I doing wrong and how can I correct this?

If it makes a difference this is mainly for ball hockey..

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01-04-2009, 10:32 AM
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Take a whole bunch of shots, it's the only way, and if you use the heavier ice hockey puck for practice the ball should just fly afterwards.

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Look up some instructional videos on proper form and practice, practice, practice.

I've always been of the belief that a quick release is more important than a quick shot. Goaltenders these days are really athletic, and can react quickly to anything they expect. If you can catch a goalie off-guard with a shot you have a much better chance at scoring.... and if you possess both, then you're going to be a scoring machine.

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Atleast for the snapshot, try putting more force down through your stick into the ground just before you release the shot. The more pressure, the more the stick will give a whip effect like a slap shot. Throw in body rotation and making sure you transfer your weight from back to front foot. The more you use your body weight and momentum the harder it should be.

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the position of your lower hand i find has great relevance, i find the lower i drop my hand the higher the shot will go and the higher i leave my hand the lower the shot will be. it's a good starting point to finding your sweet spot. after you find the spot it's all in practice and conditioning your strength to put more on the shot.. and remember if you can't take the shot with your head up looking at the net, it won't be very effective.

try starting the ball/puck behind your body and start the momentum of it forwards as it crosses your body you than want to snap the wrist and put a lot of downward force on the stick as previously mentioned to get that whip out of the stick. practice that for a while and i assure you you'll be popping 90 footers in no time

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the position of your lower hand i find has great relevance, i find the lower i drop my hand the higher the shot will go and the higher i leave my hand the lower the shot will be. it's a good starting point to finding your sweet spot. after you find the spot it's all in practice and conditioning your strength to put more on the shot.. and remember if you can't take the shot with your head up looking at the net, it won't be very effective.

try starting the ball/puck behind your body and start the momentum of it forwards as it crosses your body you than want to snap the wrist and put a lot of downward force on the stick as previously mentioned to get that whip out of the stick. practice that for a while and i assure you you'll be popping 90 footers in no time
See, I'm just the opposite. The lower the lower hand, the lower the shot. The higher the lower hand, the higher the shot. For me at least, I'm assuming we're all different.

I've been watching Semin's shot, and one thing I noticed is the position of the puck on the blade just before the release. I used to leave the puck on the middle of my blade, and roll my wrists and let the puck ride the tape. Semin keeps the puck at the very toe, and rolls the wrist and just launches the puck. I would assume this way needs much stronger wrists, however, because the puck will have less momentum and more influence from your strength.

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See, I'm just the opposite. The lower the lower hand, the lower the shot. The higher the lower hand, the higher the shot. For me at least, I'm assuming we're all different.

I've been watching Semin's shot, and one thing I noticed is the position of the puck on the blade just before the release. I used to leave the puck on the middle of my blade, and roll my wrists and let the puck ride the tape. Semin keeps the puck at the very toe, and rolls the wrist and just launches the puck. I would assume this way needs much stronger wrists, however, because the puck will have less momentum and more influence from your strength.
Yeah, Semin has ridiculously strong wrists.



I also think that Ovechkin or Kozlov said that Semin has huge hands which helps his shot.(Their words not mine.) It also helps that he probably has a big toe curve on his stick.

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why are they wearing the CCCP jersey? thats a joke and i cant belive the IIHF let them wear them.

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For the snapshot-

Start off with a wood stick that has a lot of give (or a low-flex composite if you have one). You want to load up on the stick, which means to get the puck ahead of the stick and exert downward pressure on the stick as you push it forward, causing the stick to bend. The bigger the bend, the better the shot.

Learn first how to bend the stick by keeping both hands above the halfway point of the stick. Next, bend it a little more, and then a little more. Then learn to make contact while bending it, make contact while bending it and moving, and you'll be on your way. From there it's all about getting that shot off quickly and moving your hands across your body as quickly as possible.

As for the stick to use, it's your personal preference. I like the 100 flex but I wouldn't recommend it unless you can load it almost every time.

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why are they wearing the CCCP jersey? thats a joke and i cant belive the IIHF let them wear them.
It was the iihf's 100th last year and all teams wore throwbacks for one game. Russians wore that, US wore the 1960 Gold medal jerseys... Here are all of them.


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Watch the Kovalev video... he explains how to take better wrist shots

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Can anyone here recommend tips to improve my snap shot and wrist shot? I mean, I know how to pull them off, but theres no "zing" to them at all and while I can usually aim it in the general area of where I want to go its not very fast at all...What am I doing wrong and how can I correct this?

If it makes a difference this is mainly for ball hockey..

Thanks in advance!
It appears you're shooting with "your hands". This is common mistake for beginners. Your stick shaft should fist accumulate the energy and then transfer it to the puck through stick blade. Energy accumulation, or shaft loading is achieved by flexing the stick against the ice. First learn to do it w/o a puck. Flex your stick against the ice by leaning at it. Next step is to learn to drag loaded stick without losing any "load" i.e. to keep the same flex. If you have hard time keeping the stick loaded, get less stiff stick, but do not get too soft or switch to Intermediate from Senior. Get the stiffest stick you can maintain the load during the dragging with. After that add a puck to it and try to practice the shot, but focus on fundamentals, i.e. make sure you don't lose the load during the dragging and shooting. When unloading the shot, snap your wrists and shift the weight to the leg opposite to your shooting side (right, if you're leftie, left, if you're rightie).


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a great way to strengthen the wrists.....

need:
10-12" long x 1-1.5" diameter wood dowel. The handle from the standard corn broom works well.

30" or so 1/8 nylon rope

1lb, 2 lb and 5 lb free weight disc or dumbell.


drill a hole thru the middle/center of your handle. Slide one end of the rope thru the hole and tie a knot so it wont come out. At the other end tie on weight, start with 1lb or 2 lb freeweight. elbows in and tight to the body, hands forward, use just the wrists to roll the wooden handle winding the rope around it and lifting the weight. Unroll to lower....remember to use both alternate between an under hand and over hand grip.

pretty much the same as wrist curls but your usng just one wrist at a time as you wind or unwind the weighted rope. Good idea to use thin gloves to prevent blisters.

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practice dude. I remember nights where I would drop 100 pucks in front of me in my garage, and start ripping slapshots into the net we had. When I first started doing it, every night for about a month I would take 1000 shots. AWESOME workout, and it gave me so much more power and control in my slap, wrist, snap, and backhand shots.

Be warned though it will take you a long time to do 1000 shots. Practice is the only way you can get better, ice is expensive, so its best to do that kind of stuff off of it. Assuming you have a hockey net, set it up in your garage (or basement) on a floor that is either concrete or buy like a plastic tile that you can shoot off of. Than also buy 100 hockey pucks so you dont have to constantly go back and get them. Make sure that if you miss you wont ruin everything (wood boards, whatever) and get shooting. It will help you alot, and youll notice a difference quickly.

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Can anyone here recommend tips to improve my snap shot and wrist shot? I mean, I know how to pull them off, but theres no "zing" to them at all and while I can usually aim it in the general area of where I want to go its not very fast at all...What am I doing wrong and how can I correct this?

If it makes a difference this is mainly for ball hockey..

Thanks in advance!
Ok, read my post here on this thread.....
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=505775

Then if you have any questions, send me a PM and I will help you.

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I have also found that I have the same problem. Should I practice shots standing still first or moving? Usually I just skate around and shoot but I find that I have horrible aim and no power.

I have a net setup in my basement, I have a couple pucks and one weighted puck. I plan on getting some more. Should I shoot off the concrete or use plexiglass or something?

Also how far should I be from the net when in the basement? I usually shoot from like 10feet away.

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I have also found that I have the same problem. Should I practice shots standing still first or moving? Usually I just skate around and shoot but I find that I have horrible aim and no power.
The power in the shot comes from several things.
  • Puck Placement
  • Hand on Stick placement
  • Fulcrum point leverage
  • Follow through with proper arm positioning
  • Wrist rolling for arming

So lets look at the first one. While doing a wrist shot, the puck should be behind the skates if your skates are facing the goalie. The stick should cup the puck. By cupping the puck, it forces the top hand on the stick to push the stick down toward the ice surface allowing the top hand arm to go to full extension.

Second, If you move the bottom hand about 2.5 feet away from the top hand, this is going to allow you to use maximum force and leverage on the shot.

Third, By moving the bottom hand down the shaft, it sets up a stable "Fulcrum" point, kind of like a Teeter-tottor half way down the stick.

The closer that fulcrum moves towards the top hand, the less power you will have in the shot due to minimal force.

Fourth, As you follow through with the shot, you will see that the stop hand should move away from the body. As the top arm becomes fully extended, it is equally inportant to have the bottom hand add pressure to the shaft of the stick.

This added pressure will help bend the stick in the middle. This is why it is inportant to have a stick with a lot of flex. By having a lot of flex in the shaft, it allows you to make the stick work for you and you not working for the stick.

While both arms as coming to full extension, press down on the shaft to add force and to set the fulcrum. At the same time, pull the top hand back to your body as qucik as you can. The amount of pressure that you place at the fulcrum and the speed of pulling that top hand back will excel the puck like an arrow out of a compound bow.

Now to control the accuracy of the shot, you simple have to roll your wrist in the follow through and point the tip in the blade to the spot you want to hit. 9 times out 0f 10, you will hit the spot.

If you want to shoot the puck low on the ice, follow through low. If you want to shout the puck high, follow through high. If you want to get the puck to fly, simply allow the puck to stay on the blade a little bit longer on the follow through.

Example: If you place the puck off to the side of you and the blade is on the ice touching the puck, try shoveling the puck like you are cleaning the dog crap in the back yard with a shovel and you are trying to get it over the fence.

Well, during the follow through of the wrist shot, the puck need to be just a little forward of the release, in order for the puck to take flight.

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I have a net setup in my basement, I have a couple pucks and one weighted puck. I plan on getting some more. Should I shoot off the concrete or use plexiglass or something?
Do you have roller blade? If so, use them. If not, make sure that you stand on a platform that will take you off the floor by about two inches. This is the difference that you must have, if you are actually going to shot the puck with not skates on.

Then make sure that the puck is on the floor, not the platform. If you want to get a plexiglass to shoot off of....be my guest. The inportant this is the platform. However, there are a lot of players that would say....Oh, that a bunch of horse sh**, just shoot! Which is fine, but try to have the actual shooting conditions as much as possible.

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Also how far should I be from the net when in the basement? I usually shoot from like 10feet away.
That fine to began with. Once you get accurate....move back each time by 5 feet.

Hope this helps
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Do you have roller blade? If so, use them. If not, make sure that you stand on a platform that will take you off the floor by about two inches. This is the difference that you must have, if you are actually going to shot the puck with not skates on.

Then make sure that the puck is on the floor, not the platform. If you want to get a plexiglass to shoot off of....be my guest. The inportant this is the platform. However, there are a lot of players that would say....Oh, that a bunch of horse sh**, just shoot! Which is fine, but try to have the actual shooting conditions as much as possible.
I dont have roller blades but I will build a box or something for me to stand on. I thought about that since that would change the "lie?" of the stick.

Thanks a bunch for the help.

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I dont have roller blades but I will build a box or something for me to stand on. I thought about that since that would change the "lie?" of the stick.

Thanks a bunch for the help.
Shooting in sneakers will affect the lie compared to shooting in skates. If you want accommodate the lie but don't have skates, stand on something 1.5-2.5" tall and shoot from it (feet on the platform, puck on the floor).

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or just get a stick you dont mind tearing up and cut it a couple inches shorter than your ice hockey stick

also this is a great video, kovalev is pretty funny trying to find the right words


well i guess i dont know how to post youtube videos but heres the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9ydb...eature=related


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or just get a stick you dont mind tearing up and cut it a couple inches shorter than your ice hockey stick
would this work?

I have a cheap Koho stick I use for playing street.

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Shooting in sneakers will affect the lie compared to shooting in skates. If you want accommodate the lie but don't have skates, stand on something 1.5-2.5" tall and shoot from it (feet on the platform, puck on the floor).
A phonebook will do the trick. BTW, Coach, the hands 2.5 feet apart on a wrister is going to create real stability problems, unless you're Zdeno Chara! More like 2 feet eh? Oh, and NYRSB, the distance between the hands changes the relationship based on how far away the stick is from you. If it's in very close, you can get it plenty high with your hands closer together but it will stay lower if they're farther apart in the same situation.

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or just get a stick you dont mind tearing up and cut it a couple inches shorter than your ice hockey stick

also this is a great video, kovalev is pretty funny trying to find the right words


well i guess i dont know how to post youtube videos but heres the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9ydb...eature=related
Is there a world record for using the word shaft that much ?



But as for the shots, just practice, practice and practice

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Do a full and proper weight transfer, even on your wrist shots. It makes a WORLD of difference. The crappy thing about snappers is you can't do a proper weight transfer, because it's an in between shot. The power on snappers comes from the wrists, forearms and shoulders, mostly.

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Do a full and proper weight transfer, even on your wrist shots. It makes a WORLD of difference. The crappy thing about snappers is you can't do a proper weight transfer, because it's an in between shot. The power on snappers comes from the wrists, forearms and shoulders, mostly.
If I am facing with both feet towards the net which leg should I transfer the weight too. I tried it both ways and it felt about the same. I shoot left.

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