Clearly, the Habs votes are responsible for not seeing 6 to 8 guys that deserved it more. But then, most people can agree that Price and Markov deserve it so who's left....Kovalev and Komisarek. So if Komi is not in, Green is. And if Kovalev is not in, Elias is or Kessel....
Do people realize that despite this, there STILL would be injustice since at least 4 or 5 guys that deserve it would still not make it EVEN if the Habs would not have been voted in?
Can people realize how the 1 player by team IS ALSO a problem here?
Thing is, the 2 hated guys here are Kovy and Komi. Chances are Kovy will give the best show of the guys there. And as much as I don't want to see it, if Komi does not have a contract signed with us, CLEARLY he'll suddenly become an All-Star for all the teams in the league...
Mr. 3 points will SUDDENLY becomes soooooo important all of a sudden.....
Strange that most sane people recognize how important he is in a team (well they will if he becomes UFA) but then he's not worthy to be in an All-Star game. At the very least, it's the demonstration that defensive defenceman could be recognize as well and if they don't have their trophy, at least they're being talked about.
I agree with everything you wrote. Talent wise, Kovy is a top-5 player in the world. He has some of the best talent I have ever seen. I just wish him (and Jagr for that mater) played up to their level most nights. He will put on a show, that's for sure.
The bolded part is the silver lining for Boston fans.
Several of the players you voted in would not be in the all star game at all if not voted in. That has a ton to do with "Being an All star".
And the big issue here, and I'll use small words, is that when a player is put in because of fans cheating he takes up the spot that a better (that means more good) player should have had.
A fan vote done using computer scripts is hardly valid in my mind. Montreal Fans cheated. There's a ton of evidence, including a screenshot floating around of a post on the official Habs board with instructions on how to set up a script in firefox. It's in one of the all star threads here, if somebody knows where it is and wants to post it.
Markov would be in and maybe Price. Kovalev and Komisarek are the ones that would not have been even invited. So to make things more spectacular, most people are coming with a list of 6 to 8 players that didn't make it CAUSE THE HABS WERE PICKED. While Green should have taken the Komisarek pick, and maybe Elias or Kessel should have gone instead of Kovalev, do you realize that all the others would not have been in 'cause of the 1 player per team rule?
As far as fans cheating are concerned, votes were taken off, and while scripts were used by other fanbases as well, only the Habs votes were reduced. But then cheats or not cheat, Markov and Price would have been in anyway. So again it comes down to the other 2 I was talking about. Sure cheating is wrong....I mean nobody here never cheated in anything, we're all little saints, but then in the end, we are discussing about 2 guys that should not be there. 2 that suddenly are the reasons why 6 to 8 guys are not going....While the 1 player by team rule is not discussed how much.....So how's that rule fits in your "Being an All-Star". Seems to me that more players would not have been in if that rule would not exist compared to if the bad Habs fans would not have cheated... What do you think about the West voting? Do Habs fans cheated there as well?
THE STARTERS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING AN ALL-STAR BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT WINNING A FAN VOTE. IT'S ALL ABOUT VOTING FOR YOUR FAVORITE PLAYERS! Get that? Favorite players....does that mean they have to be the greatest? THE ONES WHO REALLY DESERVE TO BE AN ALL STAR ARE THE ONES CHOSEN BY THE COACHES AND CLEARLY 'CAUSE OF THAT 1 REP. PER TEAM, THEY EVEN CAN'T DO IT!!!!!
Lilke I said before, if you want the best players, take the first 40 players in the stats and make 2 teams.
i was gonna lay low on this bc, well my team is not so great and i cant rip on montreal too much bc i love the city...but, the starters of an all-star game have everything to do with being an allstar. you shouldnt be able to vote in any scrub just bc you feel like it(not calling komi or kovy scrubs) i dont really care who makes it but just reading this post got me to reply. by your logic, isles can vote in jeff tambellini and the leafs(fans obviously) can vote in a bum like hollweg. wrong.
no, there really wouldnt. i could care LESS what team it was. i dont give a rats behind about the Habs to be honest
There would be, although it may not come from you. Everyone knows the Habs and their fans are the most annoying in the league, after all.
As for the selection, it's a good spread, better than the West's. There are deserving players missing (Elias, Semin, Green, etc.) but there are going to be such things every time, and everyone who was named to the team is a deserving selection, if you're mindful of the one-per-team criteria.