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01-11-2009, 05:09 PM
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This thread is worse than the Avery "Sloppy seconds" one. He gave an honest opinion of a player. A player who is the definition of an "Hot dog". A guy who thinks he should have walked onto the Oilers roster. Hes playing terrible in the AHL and he needs a kick in the ass.

If this doesn't do it, what will?

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01-11-2009, 05:10 PM
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May I surmise that your assertion is that McTavish is intentionally not icing the best team he can?
No not intentionally, but when you have Liam Reddox playing on your top line it really makes you wonder.

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Honestly, would anyone care about Rob Schremp if he wasn't so hyped as a 15/16 year old? There are plenty of guys picked in the mid-20s that don't get nearly as much media attention.

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01-11-2009, 05:15 PM
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I dont think this is so much about Robbie Schremp, but another reason why Mact needs to be fired.

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ntohing wrong with that, do some people have a hard on for schremp just cause he is good in the shootout?

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01-11-2009, 05:17 PM
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Wow, that's just unnecessary. Maybe if it was Schremp who was complaining about never getting the call but for all we know he hasn't been.


This guy is just asking to get canned.
There you go. I am sure the oilers get sick and tired of getting asked why he didn't get the call up and MacT was honest and told everyone why. Is that so hard to believe? You aren't allowed to call a spade a spade anymore?

He IS slow, he ISN'T particularly physical.

It is the old theory of: I will work hard once I get the promotion.

It doesn't work that way...work hard TO GET the promotion.

Good for MacT.

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01-11-2009, 05:18 PM
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I am not sure what kind of future Rob Schremp has in the NHL, but there is no doubt that he hasn't been given a fair chance.

In the 4 games he was up here, he put up 3 points and looked pretty good in his 1st 2 games. In the next 2 games, he looked no worse than the rest of his team.

There is no question that he played better than Reddox and Brule have so far.

I don't understand why MacT doesn't give him a good 8-10 games to see what he can really do. There isn't a whole lot to lose. He might even be able to put up a few points to help deal with the loss of Hemsky.

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01-11-2009, 05:20 PM
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Rob Schremp will go somewhere when he is able for UFA and make an NHL team. He will then score 40-50 points on a third line as somebody's powerplay specialist. He needs a fresh start and a fair evaluation away from Edmonton where hope has long been held that he would turn into a point per game guy.

Yeah, he's slow. He doesn't back check as hard as he could. We all know the score with this kid. However, when you have a guy with world class ability like he has you find a place to put him in the lineup to where he can be effective. The situation he's in kind of reminds me of how a guy like Marc Savard came into the league with the Rangers.

He has played like 200 games in the AHL.... I would imagine most anybody with the talent level that Schremp has would be bored down there at this point. He's not going to get any faster. He's not going to get any more committed to defense. Put him in your lineup or cut bait. I think that would be the fair thing to do.

He didn't look amazing in his call up, but it isn't very often that you have call ups that do. Perhaps the organization would know what they had in Schremp if they actually gave him time to unpack his bags in Edmonton.

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They did so via Pronger dragging them into the playoffs, and then Roloson getting hotter than any other player in the playoffs.
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Wow. One fluke run in damn near a decade, one in which they only made the playoffs because Vancouver sucked more. Hell, we should give these guys the keys to city and throw them a parade.
We are currently in our fourth season since the lockout.

The first season, where we had a competitive roster with real depth and talent, we went to game 7 of the Stanley Cup. Pronger leaves. Our team moves into a full rebuild, and we have not made the playoffs since. Not really something you can put on the shoulders of MacT.

As for the "Canucks sucking their way out of the playoffs". In the season series in 05/06, the Oilers were 6-1-1 against the Canucks. That is why we made the playoffs and Vancouver missed. The Oilers dominated the Canucks head to head that year. 13 out of 16 possible points.

In those four seasons since the lockout, we have had one fantastic season, one terrible season, one mediocre season and what looks to be another mediocre season. I am not sure any coach in the entire league could have coached the Oilers teams from the past two years into a playoff spot. They were just not that good. There are huge improvements that need to be made, but none of them can be made by Rob Schremp. We have too many skillful smallish forwards on this team already.

Firing the coach right now will not make much difference. The only positive of doing it would be to allow for a clean slate in the minds of the fans.

The funny thing is, even with a new coach, Rob Schremp doesn't make this team. Who are we going to blame then?

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The is entirely false and proves you've never seen him play more then one game.
The reports from Springfield are that Schemp was benched in the third period in back-to-back games since his return to the minors. Are you saying the reports are wrong?

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Craig is a smart guy, but I can't wait until this tool is gone.

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Ouch. Sounds like a coach who is frustrated that a talented player is refusing to dedicate himself to getting better.

I can understand that. Calling out players in public is pretty bush league, imo, though.

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McTavish is just sick of all the pointless Robbie Schremp hype and having to answer questions about an AHLer.

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Ouch. Sounds like a coach who is frustrated that a talented player is refusing to dedicate himself to getting better.

I can understand that. Calling out players in public is pretty bush league, imo, though.
100% agree. You have to keep a level head. To top it off, this guy isn't on the roster. He can't just go out and "prove" himself.

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Honestly, would anyone care about Rob Schremp if he wasn't so hyped as a 15/16 year old? There are plenty of guys picked in the mid-20s that don't get nearly as much media attention.
Because there isn't another player in the AHL that has the kind of hands that this kid has. He was a huge scorer in Junior, has been a huge scorer in the AHL until he got bored and frustrated, and people tend to extrapolate that he could be a big scorer in the NHL if given the chance.

There was actually talk prior to the season that Schremp was considering going to Europe to play. That may actually be his best route if Edmonton isn't going to give him a proper place to play.

For those saying you have to "earn" your chance to get in the AHL.... what exactly was Schremp doing for the first 150 AHL games of his career? He was a point per game guy for nearly that entire time and didn't even get so much as a sniff to be called up for the duration. There is no question he has been handled improperly. I wouldn't look at what Schremp has become in terms of his nightly effort in the AHL and place the blame totally on him.... I can imagine it would be frustrating to be stuck in a developmental league trying to bounce pucks off less skilled players for three seasons worth of games.

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We are currently in our fourth season since the lockout.

The first season, where we had a competitive roster with real depth and talent, we went to game 7 of the Stanley Cup. Pronger leaves. Our team moves into a full rebuild, and we have not made the playoffs since. Not really something you can put on the shoulders of MacT.

As for the "Canucks sucking their way out of the playoffs". In the season series in 05/06, the Oilers were 6-1-1 against the Canucks. That is why we made the playoffs and Vancouver missed. The Oilers dominated the Canucks head to head that year. 13 out of 16 possible points.

In those four seasons since the lockout, we have had one fantastic season, one terrible season, one mediocre season and what looks to be another mediocre season. I am not sure any coach in the entire league could have coached the Oilers teams from the past two years into a playoff spot. They were just not that good. There are huge improvements that need to be made, but none of them can be made by Rob Schremp. We have too many skillful smallish forwards on this team already.

Firing the coach right now will not make much difference. The only positive of doing it would be to allow for a clean slate in the minds of the fans.

The funny thing is, even with a new coach, Rob Schremp doesn't make this team. Who are we going to blame then?
Thank you! Great post.

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01-11-2009, 05:29 PM
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Sean Avery makes a "harsh, but truthful point" about a totally unaffiliated third party and gets a 6-game suspension to go with a drowning career.

Craig MacTavish makes a "harsh, but truthful point" about a professionally affiliated third party and is getting praise?

What a joke... at least Avery's comments had some humour to it.

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I like it. Schremp has had a fairly large ego throughout his junior and minor/pro career. I'm sure the one who doesn't like the comments as much are probably Lowe since the comments hurt potential trade value. Which is likely none right now anyway. Put a player in his place. Make that player take a long hard look and make that change. Hey there's always Europe for Schremp. The Swiss league may be more suited to his style.

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People get so caught up with numbers it's not even funny. Schremp did not play 4 solid NHL games. In fact he was a detriment to the team in two of those games.
And Gagner, Nilsson, Moreau, Staios, Smid etc have never been a detriment to this team??? Get the ****** outta here!!

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Sean Avery makes a "harsh, but truthful point" about a totally unaffiliated third party and gets a 6-game suspension to go with a drowning career.

Craig MacTavish makes a "harsh, but truthful point" about a professionally affiliated third party and is getting praise?

What a joke... at least Avery's comments had some humour to it.
Avery made a sexually charged comment about his ex girlfriend to the media. It was completely out of line and had absolutely no relevance to the issue at hand or the NHL.

It was offensive.

MacT calling out Rob Schremp for not playing well is perfectly legit. Rob Schremp is an Edmonton Oiler prospect, and MacT is the coach of the Oilers. How is that anything like Avery's statement?

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And Gagner, Nilsson, Moreau, Staios, Smid etc have never been a detriment to this team??? Get the ****** outta here!!
No, but they have all earned spots on the NHL roster. Schremp has not come close to doing so. He does not provide anything Gagner, Nilsson or Cogliano can't. He doesn't provide the intangibles Pouliot does. He does not play defence, so I have no clue as to why Smid and Staios were mentioned... and the other guy is the Captain of the team.

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MacT sure is making it tough for Schremp to get his 600g and 1300 points...shame on him.

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He should sign with whichever russian club Pavel Brendl plays with. Then they can read "How I did it: The Jiri Hudler story" to each other at night and finally realize what it takes to make it in the NHL when your coach hates you.

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The reports from Springfield are that Schemp was benched in the third period in back-to-back games since his return to the minors. Are you saying the reports are wrong?
No im saying that hes improved in almost every aspect of his game since he entered the A, unlike what you alluded too.

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Even if Mac T's comments are correct (which to a certain extent they are), he's doing the Oilers organization a disservice by being so resoundly critical of an asset. He could have been a bit more diplomatic, or even short in his assessment.

The whole Schremp saga in Edmonton puzzles me to no end. Why they haven't unloaded him at this point is a wonder. It was clear from the start that he wasn't going to fit in, and there was nothing he could do at either level to please the orginization. They just don't like him. Schremp's at best going through the motions now. Why bother?

Even as a fan of American prospects, I'm shocked this guy gets so much pub. I wouldn't call him a bust, but he's getting there.

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