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01-12-2009, 03:52 PM
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Kovalev, Plecks, Higgins, Draft picks, Halak?

Can Lecavalier wear number 44 plz.

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I'd do Higgins (Pacioretty, Latendresse and D'Agostini have both showed enough this year to make me feel like we can afford dealing Higgins), Plekanec, Subban and O'Byrne (no Gorges) for Lecavalier.

This is Gorges plays very well and is also very inexpensive. In the cap era, someone who plys like a 2 million dman and is paid under 1 million... this is where you get the wiggle room to acquire veterans (Hamrlik, Lecavalier, etc.) and still have good depth.
Well said. You need players like Gorges to balance out the hefty contracts. The bonus is that Josh is playing so good right now. I really wouldnt want to lose him.

As was said, i have no problem with giving up Higgins, Plek, Mcdo/Subban and a 1st.

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One superstar does not mean that the team is mediocre.

As long as you manage your assets responsibly (eg not having 3 mil 3rd or 4th liners or 2 Mil # 5 defensemen), you can afford a Superstar.


Tampa messed up when they tried to have three 7 million guys up front...
This man is right, we're not trading for Lecavalier AND St-Louis AND Brad Richards.

To have 3 or 4 superstars is going to cripple your depth, having 1 is not. People need to stop exagerating...

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Well said. You need players like Gorges to balance out the hefty contracts. The bonus is that Josh is playing so good right now. I really wouldnt want to lose him.

As was said, i have no problem with giving up Higgins, Plek, Mcdo/Subban and a 1st.
Me neither. Lecavalier is a big time upgrade on Pleks and we've shown players can step up for Higgins. I won't do the trade if Gorges is included though, I love that player. (no homo)

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Ditto. Alhough I'd keep Subban over McDonough.

I don't think the multiple picks will be added to four players. It has to be a package based upon some of these elements.

I'd do Higgins (Pacioretty, Latendresse and D'Agostini have both showed enough this year to make me feel like we can afford dealing Higgins), Plekanec, Subban and O'Byrne (no Gorges) for Lecavalier.

This is Gorges plays very well and is also very inexpensive. In the cap era, someone who plys like a 2 million dman and is paid under 1 million... this is where you get the wiggle room to acquire veterans (Hamrlik, Lecavalier, etc.) and still have good depth.
Not enough to land him, other teams can offer better.

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Captain Lecavalier ??????? I can see Koivu handing the C over in the pregame ceremony now....

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Captain Lecavalier ??????? I can see Koivu handing the C over in the pregame ceremony now....
I would start a riot by myself

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Are you kidding me? Pleks, Higgins, Gorges, Subban, and a couple of #1's?

For a team thats 8-1-1 in its last 10 games.

8-1-1 without its star Goaltender.

8-1-1 without its Captain.

8-1-1 without its entire 2nd line.

If you make the trade, what do you hope to accomplish? 9-1 in your next 10?

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01-12-2009, 03:59 PM
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Are you kidding me? Pleks, Higgins, Gorges, Subban, and a couple of #1's?

For a team thats 8-1-1 in its last 10 games.

8-1-1 without its star Goaltender.

8-1-1 without its Captain.

8-1-1 without its entire 2nd line.

If you make the trade, what do you hope to accomplish? 9-1 in your next 10?
11-0 in the next 10. A team will forfeit their next game.

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people have to relax with lecavalier's contract and the cap situation!

team's with cap trouble have 2,3 or 4 stars with high salaries (tampa days of boyle, richards and lecavalier and st-louis) ottawa (alfredsson, heatley, spezza)

even detroit has datsyuk (6.7m) lidstrom (7.45m) and hossa (7.45m) (replace hossa with zetterberg's salary for next season) and are always competive!

we would only have lecavalier, and no one else will come near 6 million for next season, so i don't see what the big cap problem is...

plus look at hossa's salary hit, its about 300k different with lecavalier's cap hit, plus lecavalier is a big center, a 100 point player (this season is an off year, bad shoulder and all)

and compared to players like heatley and spezza with about 7 million each in cap hits, lecavalier is the total package of size, skill, scoring, defensive smarts and npt just an offensive weapon

therefore, lecavalier isn't a bargain like markov or thomas kaberle, but isn't as bad as people say, not bad at all actually

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Asking this question because I'm not entirely sure of how it works..

If you offer a guy a contract for 8 million, and he gets injured, let's say, a season ending injury, and he's never the same player...up to how much is the team liable to have to pay him ?

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Captain Lecavalier ??????? I can see Koivu handing the C over in the pregame ceremony now....
I'd puke...

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Do you guys think Beliveau would let Lecavalier wear 4?

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I would not watch another Habs game if that trade is made.

This is a move you do if your own team is struggling. Why shake a good thing up for a player who can't even hit a PPG with all the ice time in the world?

This will look very stupid in a few years when you're paying 7.7 a year for some 34 year old bum.

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Are you kidding me? Pleks, Higgins, Gorges, Subban, and a couple of #1's?

For a team thats 8-1-1 in its last 10 games.

8-1-1 without its star Goaltender.

8-1-1 without its Captain.

8-1-1 without its entire 2nd line.

If you make the trade, what do you hope to accomplish? 9-1 in your next 10?
Well when you've won 24 Stanley Cups you automatically have higher expectations that say if you only won 5 or so.

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Are you kidding me? Pleks, Higgins, Gorges, Subban, and a couple of #1's?

For a team thats 8-1-1 in its last 10 games.

8-1-1 without its star Goaltender.

8-1-1 without its Captain.

8-1-1 without its entire 2nd line.

If you make the trade, what do you hope to accomplish? 9-1 in your next 10?
You don't understand this obesession ...

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I would not watch another Habs game if that trade is made.

This is a move you do if your own team is struggling. Why shake a good thing up for a player who can't even hit a PPG with all the ice time in the world?

This will look very stupid in a few years when you're paying 7.7 a year for some 34 year old bum.
Come on now, he's 29 and has had 2 90+ points season already with a lesser supporting cast.

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Dunno if this has been said before but Mathias Brunet said today that Vinny is very much interested in playing for the Habs. Brunet (Mathias, not Benoit) is, IMHO, one of the most credible journalist covering the team.

Source: http://blogues.cyberpresse.ca/lnh/?p=526

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Do you guys think Beliveau would let Lecavalier wear 4?
I'd say yes.

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Asking this question because I'm not entirely sure of how it works..

If you offer a guy a contract for 8 million, and he gets injured, let's say, a season ending injury, and he's never the same player...up to how much is the team liable to have to pay him ?
You mean if he can't play?


We if he's on long term injury reserve , he's off the hook and we're off the hook cap wise. Just look at Philly and Derian Hatcher.

 
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Gotta think that adding Lecavalier would be huge for Montreal, not only for this season, but going forward as well. He is an incredible all-around player who would give the Habs exactly what they have lacked for so long [no disrespect to Koivu]: A big, skilled, power centre who can play 20+ minutes per night. And I don't think that playing in Montreal would ruin him. He would go there with a Stanley Cup and several All-Star seasons under his belt, and would be joining what is already a good team. Instead of St. Louis and a bunch of hacks, he would get to play with the likes of Kovalev, Kostitsyn [either one], Tanguay, Lang, and any number of other good young players.

Making it even more feasible is the fact that Montreal has great depth [especially in terms of prospects] and will have a lot of cap flexibility to work with this off-season. True, it will not address the problems faced by the Habs on the bottom D-pairing, but that could be off-set by a having truly dominant corps of forwards.

I wouldn't want to see Gainey go nuts just to get a deal done, but I doubt that would happen anyway. The guy is just way to judicious to get caught up in all the hoopla.

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Come on now, he's 29 and has had 2 90+ points season already with a lesser supporting cast.
Wow 2 seasons in how many? He's been in the league since he's 18.

I don't want to break the bank for him, he's not worth it.

You want to pay 7.7 M a year, until he's 39, when the cap is going down? Stupid move.

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Not enough to land him, other teams can offer better.
More than #1 Center of the #1 Eastern Team last year, who's also a great 2way and complete player.
With a 25-30G Scorer, one of the best D prospects in Canada, and a giant Dman..plus picks.

You think teams are going to offer more?..I don't see how you can give more than this.

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Yo **** that!

Gainey better the **** not to the trade! I love Gorges and Subban! DON'T TRADE THEM! Pleks is a great 2nd line center, I agree Higgins couldbe traded but know way in hell in that package. Then we would be stuck with a 11 year contract at 8M$ perseason. **** OFF! GAINEY BETTER IN HELL NOT DO IT!
I agree!!

Pleky
Higgins
Georges
Subban
Plus at LEAST one 1st round pick!

No way Bob... that will set us back!!

Don't even think about it!!!

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