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01-11-2009, 08:46 PM
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Montreal - Tampa Bay (Lecavalier)

Dreger on TSN in the 2nd intermission of the Oilers-Blues game:

Montreal and TB have had "steady" talks regarding Vinny. There's some in the TB organization who want to trade him, others who don't.

Apparently, the deal involves at least 4 assets (4 NHL players + other prospects/picks). Dreger mentioned:

Chris Higgins
Tomas Plekanec
PK Subban
Other Picks/Prospects

Sorry if this was mentioned before.

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Not nearly enough.

Higgins is an overrated second liner.

Plekanec IS a second line caliber talent.

Subban has quickly become overrated.

Better be giving up McDonough and Pacrioretty too.

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yep yep give Tampa more player om nom nom.

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Not nearly enough.

Higgins is an overrated second liner.

Plekanec IS a second line caliber talent.

Subban has quickly become overrated.

Better be giving up McDonough and Pacrioretty too.
Emelin, Fischer, Maxwell and Kristo too...

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Andrei, Sergei, Subban, Weber, 1st

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Not nearly enough.

Higgins is an overrated second liner.

Plekanec IS a second line caliber talent.

Subban has quickly become overrated.

Better be giving up McDonough and Pacrioretty too.
The Panel was saying it was so much that Tampa would be sending people along with Vinny. Even if its just salary ie Jokinen.

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Lecavalier on the Habs... *shivers*

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The Panel was saying it was so much that Tampa would be sending people along with Vinny. Even if its just salary ie Jokinen.
It shows how much they know... we'd be taking on $7+ million in cap hit with Lecavalier alone while they'd only be taking $3.3 million or so... Montreal couldn't afford that!

Here I was thinking that after signing his last contract, it would be the end of those ridiculous rumours sending Lecavalier to Montreal. Crap!

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Dreger said that there were four NHLers involved, not four total assets. Four current NHLers, plus prospects and picks.

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So you get a superstar player for your whipping boy, your second liner, a prospect and picks?

Yeah that's fair.

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The Panel was saying it was so much that Tampa would be sending people along with Vinny. Even if its just salary ie Jokinen.
That really isn't very much.

Name ONE impact player going to tampa?

they get a bunch of role players.

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So you get a superstar player for your whipping boy, your second liner, a prospect and picks?

Yeah that's fair.
You have no idea about those guys, do you? It's painfully obvious. I wasn't reacting on the players involved, but rather on your description of them. Pathetic and misinformed.

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Dreger said that there were four NHLers involved, not four total assets. Four current NHLers, plus prospects and picks.
Yeah, I edited my initial post to read "at least." I know those were the 4 he mentioned by name though.

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Not nearly enough.

Higgins is an overrated second liner.

Plekanec IS a second line caliber talent.

Subban has quickly become overrated.

Better be giving up McDonough and Pacrioretty too.

They can keep him then.

As for the Subban comment, your annoyance with a player's popularity with the media and fan bases has NO bearing on a player's natural skill. Sorry, to burst your only argument.

I will never understand the idea to gut an entire team to acquire a single asset. That's how you get into trouble.

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I have a question about Vinnys contract for next year. Even if he is traded is that 11 year contract still good for next year since it hasn't really started or was that contract just agreed upon between Vinny and the Lightning? I would guess it would take an awful lot to land him espically if hes signed for 11 years. I would start with:

To Tampa:
Halak
Komisarek
S. Kostitsyn
Subban
Higgins
Probably more...

To Montreal:
Lecavalier
Kolzig (Can provide some support and has lots of experience)

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You have no idea about those guys, do you? It's painfully obvious. I wasn't reacting on the players involved, but rather on your description of them. Pathetic and misinformed.
I have enough idea that you guys constantly are on Higgins, yet somehow he has a very high trade value?

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Shouldn't Tampa try to dump St Louis before Lecavalier?

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They can keep him then.

As for the Subban comment, your annoyance with a player's popularity with the media and fan bases has NO bearing on a player's natural skill. Sorry, to burst your only argument.

I will never understand the idea to gut an entire team to acquire a single asset. That's how you get into trouble.
I watched him during the entire WJC's.

He is not a future number one D, his highest potential is a Campbellish player and I have doubts if he gets there.

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Darn it, now how is Atlanta going to trade Schneider to the CH?

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That really isn't very much.

Name ONE impact player going to tampa?

they get a bunch of role players.

Role players?!? please.

We've seen what happens when a team has 1 line of stars and the rest of the team is place-holders. Tampa experienced it, as is Ottawa now.

Whatever the deal may be, they will be adding solid depth in, my guess, several positions.

I think you'd best keep to the pacific division, you seem lost here.

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Dreger said that there were four NHLers involved, not four total assets.
With Higgins, Pleky, and Subban already going the other way along with picks and/or prospects, odds are the other two NHLers might be more along the lines of salary equalization than impact players. Guys closer to Dandenault than Tanguay. Or maybe young NHLers with upside -- say O'Byrne, even if he isn't a roster player for Montreal right now.

Still... I'll believe this one when I see it happen.

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Dreger on TSN in the 2nd intermission of the Oilers-Blues game:

Montreal and TB have had "steady" talks regarding Vinny. There's some in the TB organization who want to trade him, others who don't.

Apparently, the deal involves at least 4 assets. Dreger mentioned:

Chris Higgins
Tomas Plekanec
PK Subban
Other Picks/Prospects

Sorry if this was mentioned before.
Geez, I hope there is nothing to this. Habs are cup close and just need an offensive defenseman. That would be shaking things up too much

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Role players?!? please.

We've seen what happens when a team has 1 line of stars and the rest of the team is place-holders. Tampa experienced it, as is Ottawa now.

Whatever the deal may be, they will be adding solid depth in, my guess, several positions.

I think you'd best keep to the pacific division, you seem lost here.
So you are agreeing with me right?

Montreal gets a superstar player for essentially support pieces.

Yes?

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Shouldn't Tampa try to dump St Louis before Lecavalier?
A Lecavalier trade would free up more cap space and get Tampa a bigger return. Of course, I wouldn't doubt that they'll try to shop both of them.

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Even if he is traded is that 11 year contract still good for next year since it hasn't really started or was that contract just agreed upon between Vinny and the Lightning? I would guess it would take an awful lot to land him espically if hes signed for 11 years.
Especially?

I'm thinking that uber-long-term contract would be a negative, personally. Yes, it lets you have a 9-million player for 7.7 million now, but in 7-8 years, you might not be so happy about it.

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