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View Poll Results: Who should be captain of the 2009-10 Capitals?
Clark, Chris 30 25.00%
Backstrom, Nicklas 11 9.17%
Green, Mike 2 1.67%
Ovechkin, Alexander 68 56.67%
Semin, Alexander 1 0.83%
Other, please explain 8 6.67%
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07-14-2009, 04:19 PM
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Ovechkin, no question in my mind.

Team captain = team leader, and who is our leader on the ice?

Only when he is ready thou...

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07-14-2009, 04:19 PM
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It'll stay Clark. But if it Clark left for whatever reason I'd think it would go to AO.

How anyone can argue Ovie isn't the leader on this team is beyond me. Yes Laich is a great guy, a smart player, and a good leader. But Ovechkin is the one everyone looks to. I don't just mean the fans and the media, he is the one who rallys players during a game and can single handedly inspire the team to greater heights.

Being the PA rep has what to do with being the Captain by the way? Just because you are good at one has nothing to do with being good at the other. Does it help? Maybe but it isn't the first thing I'd look for when choosing a C for my team.
So Ovie is the only one who can inspire or rally the team?

So when Brooks Laich or Quintin Laing lay out and block numerous shots, they aren't rallying or inspiring the team?



Or how about when Donald Brashear and Matt Bradley were both beat the hell out of in a game against Nashville? Several players admitted that they played harder, and wanted to win the game for them. That seems like inspiration to me.

Saying Ovechkin is the only one who rally's the team is ridiculous.

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07-14-2009, 04:21 PM
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Gotta be Clark...if not Brooks or Ovy. Just because you're the best player on the team, doesn't mean you're the best leader of men. Good managers of people know that and handle egos accordingly.

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07-14-2009, 04:24 PM
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I guess we'll have to just disagree.

When Clark's time is up and if AO publically and privately states that he wants to the Captain, do you think Boudreau will give it to BL? Boudreau is a smart guy and part of being a smart guy is knowing which fights are worth it. Is it worth jeopardizing your relationship with the best player in the NHL just to have your guy as the captain?

Now, I certainly don't think AO would throw a hissy fit over not being named captain, but he does have a large ego. He's the clear leader on the ice and I think he thinks he deserves the C.

I haven't met BL but I imagine his first words at being approached for captaincy will be "Did you ask Alex first?". With Fedorov's departure, the possibility of AO being the next captain is somewhere between 99-100%.
I'm not saying Boudreau wants Laich as the next captain. I was just using him as an example. If Boudreau has a player in his mind, not named Ovechkin, that he wants to be captain, then I guarantee you that player will be captain. I don't think anything has to be run by Ovechkin first, Boudreau will do what he thinks is best for the team. Whether Ovechkin likes it or not.

Also, do you really think Ovechkin would be mad if he wasn't named captain? He's already turned it down once. If you honestly think Ovechkin would be mad and it would ruin his relationship with Boudreau then he shouldn't be captain.

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07-14-2009, 04:27 PM
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So Ovie is the only one who can inspire or rally the team?

So when Brooks Laich or Quintin Laing lay out and block numerous shots, they aren't rallying or inspiring the team?



Or how about when Donald Brashear and Matt Bradley were both beat the hell out of in a game against Nashville? Several players admitted that they played harder, and wanted to win the game for them. That seems like inspiration to me.

Saying Ovechkin is the only one who rally's the team is ridiculous.
I dont think he is the only one who can do it, but more often then not its Ovy that does it.

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I'm not saying Boudreau wants Laich as the next captain. I was just using him as an example. If Boudreau has a player in his mind, not named Ovechkin, that he wants to be captain, then I guarantee you that player will be captain. I don't think anything has to be run by Ovechkin first, Boudreau will do what he thinks is best for the team. Whether Ovechkin likes it or not.
Also, do you really think Ovechkin would be mad if he wasn't named captain? He's already turned it down once. If you honestly think Ovechkin would be mad and it would ruin his relationship with Boudreau then he shouldn't be captain.
I have to agree....only weak managers would do something like that. I don't think Bruce is that kind of guy to ask permission.

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07-14-2009, 04:32 PM
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I have to agree....only weak managers would do something like that. I don't think Bruce is that kind of guy to ask permission.
And I also don't think Ovechkin is the kind of player or person that needs things to be approved by him first.

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I'm not saying Boudreau wants Laich as the next captain. I was just using him as an example. If Boudreau has a player in his mind, not named Ovechkin, that he wants to be captain, then I guarantee you that player will be captain. I don't think anything has to be run by Ovechkin first, Boudreau will do what he thinks is best for the team. Whether Ovechkin likes it or not.

Also, do you really think Ovechkin would be mad if he wasn't named captain? He's already turned it down once. If you honestly think Ovechkin would be mad and it would ruin his relationship with Boudreau then he shouldn't be captain.
I specifically said he wasn't.

I have no doubt Boudreau will do what he thinks is best for the team. That includes consulting Ovechkin on who should be captain.

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So Ovie is the only one who can inspire or rally the team?

So when Brooks Laich or Quintin Laing lay out and block numerous shots, they aren't rallying or inspiring the team?



Or how about when Donald Brashear and Matt Bradley were both beat the hell out of in a game against Nashville? Several players admitted that they played harder, and wanted to win the game for them. That seems like inspiration to me.

Saying Ovechkin is the only one who rally's the team is ridiculous.
Yes it is. Please show me where I said he is the only one.

Calm down.

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Given the "curse" of recent captains... why not make a fan un-favorite the captain.

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While I think Clark is still the captain, at some point in the very near future, the team is going to have to hitch its collective wagon to a certain MVP in more than just a fun loving, care free, bone crusher, elite scorer type of way.

The team is going to have to go as far as he can lead them, whether he wants to be the leader or not, he has to do so for the team to get to the promised land.

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How many multiple Hart winners weren't the "C" of their team?

I see this in the very near future:

Ovechkin= C
Backstrom= A
Green/Laich= A

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Given the "curse" of recent captains... why not make a fan un-favorite the captain.
Nylander for captain!

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07-14-2009, 08:52 PM
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How many multiple Hart winners weren't the "C" of their team?

I see this in the very near future:

Ovechkin= C
Backstrom= A
Green/Laich= A
Agreed.

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I wonder if Steckel doesnt have a little captaincy thing going on. It seems like centers or defensemen are usually the C (then again maybe not).

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I think Laich is the perfect captain material.

Laich C
OV A
Bradley A


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How many multiple Hart winners weren't the "C" of their team?

I see this in the very near future:

Ovechkin= C
Backstrom= A
Green/Laich= A
Hasek

I don't know my history that well but I can't think of any others. Anyways, Harts don't make you good captain material. Leadership does, and I think Ovechkin has it it in spades.

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It's going to be Clark - it will be Ovie's turn soon enough.

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i don't think ovie wants the C. I think Laich does, and I think he would be a good captain. I think Alzner and Carlson are options down the road.

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anybody know who was the youngest european captain in the nhl?

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anybody know who was the youngest european captain in the nhl?
I know Brian Bellows was the youngest North American, I don't know about European.

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I know Brian Bellows was the youngest North American, I don't know about European.
I think the people in Pitt. would disagree. I thought Brian was too, but that's just b/c I hate all things Pen and am too lazy to look it up

Edit: OK I looked it up. Bellows was younger but was named interim Captain, therefore the League still considers 87 the youngest. Seems a little cheesy to me. Just like them giving it to him right after playoff elimination so he would be the youngest. Had they waited till the beginning of the next season Vinny also would have been younger. His first game as Captain he was older than Vinny was in his first. I just hate the manufactured nature of this kid's career so far. But I digress.


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youngest I saw was Olli Jokinen in 2003 he was named captain of the panthers and was 24.

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How many multiple Hart winners weren't the "C" of their team?

I see this in the very near future:

Ovechkin= C
Backstrom= A
Green/Laich= A
Agree except for Backstrom. He doesn't come across as vocal enough to be a leader...at least not anytime soon. I would pick a slew of different guys before Nicky. That's no knock on the guy either.

Ovechkin= C
Poti/Steckel= A
Green/Laich= A

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Clark will still be the C...but give Laich one of the A's. Go with a home and away rotation or something with that 2nd A. Poti on the road...Laich at home or something along those lines.

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