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01-13-2009, 08:31 AM
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One of the forwards-Drury or Gomez has to move in the summer.Drury has a NMC but he does have the home in LA.Drury to Colorado for either Brett Clark or Ruslan Salei both of whom have one year remaining on their contracts.The Rangers save $4 million in 09-10 and $7 million in the following two seasons.The Rangers take back another smaller contract to bury in the AHL.Gomez gives the Rangers a list of 3 teams where the Rangers can't trade him.When the Rangers were attempting to clear space to sign Mats Sundin,I heard Bob McKenzie on the NHL Live say Markus Naslund was one of the players possibly in play to clear room for Sundin.He has a NMC but if he is traded to a good team and good city,Naslund will move b/c he has no ties to NY.His salary is $3 million next season.$4 million cap.25-30 goal scorer.

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Hopefully Sather can pull some magic out of his pajamas between now and the start of next season.

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I know that people are in love with this kid and dying to keep him, but Sather should be patient. The FA market is really strong when it comes to forwards. That means that teams might see a guy like Zherdev as a second or third option as there will be a lot of guys out there that they could sign without having to relinquish picks to get them.

I'd hate to see Sather set the market by signing a RFA.

Wait it out. People complain about the money spent in Drury and Gomez, well Zherdev is another inconsistent forward — albeit an immensely talented one.

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I am curious where everyone thinks Zherdev should be $-wise. What do you think of these comparables? Parise at $3.1mil, Kunitz at $3.7, Nate Horton at $4, Frolov at $2.9.

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The kid loves NYC and loves playing for the Rangers. He's one of the top talents in the league. Lock him up Slats

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I am curious where everyone thinks Zherdev should be $-wise. What do you think of these comparables? Parise at $3.1mil, Kunitz at $3.7, Nate Horton at $4, Frolov at $2.9.
Larry mentioned/speculated $4 million per.Did the agent or Zherdev give that number?

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Larry mentioned/speculated $4 million per.Did the agent or Zherdev give that number?
Or Larry?

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I am curious where everyone thinks Zherdev should be $-wise. What do you think of these comparables? Parise at $3.1mil, Kunitz at $3.7, Nate Horton at $4, Frolov at $2.9.
Too hard to say. He's been here half a year and there's no telling what he'll do in the 2nd half, or even the playoffs. You could say $4 mil is a bargain, but he might end up being a 1st half player and finishes with 60pts and does nothing in the playoffs. Or, the opposite could be true and he winds up with 80+ points and a PPG pace in the playoffs.

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I know that people are in love with this kid and dying to keep him, but Sather should be patient. The FA market is really strong when it comes to forwards. That means that teams might see a guy like Zherdev as a second or third option as there will be a lot of guys out there that they could sign without having to relinquish picks to get them.

I'd hate to see Sather set the market by signing a RFA.

Wait it out. People complain about the money spent in Drury and Gomez, well Zherdev is another inconsistent forward albeit an immensely talented one.
It doesn't matter.

There is a marked difference between the money that Sather's RFA's and UFA's get..

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I am curious where everyone thinks Zherdev should be $-wise. What do you think of these comparables? Parise at $3.1mil, Kunitz at $3.7, Nate Horton at $4, Frolov at $2.9.
Frolov is in line for a new contract with him being a UFA in 2010.Parise was steal the moment he signed that contract.

Lets hope it's not $5.5 million which is what Kevin Lowe gave Shawn Horcoff last summer.Nice one Kevin

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Frolov is in line for a new contract with him being a UFA in 2010.Parise was steal the moment he signed that contract.

Lets hope it's not $5.5 million which is what Kevin Lowe gave Shawn Horcoff last summer.Nice one Kevin
For a minute I was thinking the Frolov number would be a good one ($2.9m) but probably not likely.

It seemed that lately Renney has allowed Zherdev to be more creative offensively. Could this have been the plan all along to hold Zherdev down, sign him for a good value, then let him run wild the second half of the season ?

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I am curious where everyone thinks Zherdev should be $-wise. What do you think of these comparables? Parise at $3.1mil, Kunitz at $3.7, Nate Horton at $4, Frolov at $2.9.
Zherdev is leading the team in scoring by a pretty good margin. Second is Marcus Naslund, who makes $4m, on the downside of his career. I won't even bring the $7m men in the conversation. I think Brooks is being awfully naive if he thinks Zherdev's going to sign long-term for $4m after leading the team in scoring. If he does, he'll be offering a home-town discount.

I suspect the final number (fingers crossed that we get to a final number) is going to be closer to $5m.

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Zherdev is leading the team in scoring by a pretty good margin. Second is Marcus Naslund, who makes $4m, on the downside of his career. I won't even bring the $7m men in the conversation. I think Brooks is being awfully naive if he thinks Zherdev's going to sign long-term for $4m after leading the team in scoring. If he does, he'll be offering a home-town discount.

I suspect the final number (fingers crossed that we get to a final number) is going to be closer to $5m.
Naslund is tied with Gomez for second.

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4 years $16 Million sounds about right.

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Naslund is tied with Gomez for second.
I'm not sure how that affects my argument?

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Zherdev is leading the team in scoring by a pretty good margin. Second is Marcus Naslund, who makes $4m, on the downside of his career. I won't even bring the $7m men in the conversation. I think Brooks is being awfully naive if he thinks Zherdev's going to sign long-term for $4m after leading the team in scoring. If he does, he'll be offering a home-town discount.

I suspect the final number (fingers crossed that we get to a final number) is going to be closer to $5m.
You're leaving out both the change in the economy (and therefore cap projections) and, more importantly, the RFA vs. UFA factor. I think we can get it done for $4MM per or less (depending on number of years).

Here's hoping!

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this is a sticky situation. SBOB's right - we are talking about anohter inconsistent forward who will frustrate us. But of course, I'd rather pay a 23 year old who's leading the team in points $16-25MM over 4-5 years ($4MM-$5MM per) than the two guys this team is paying $7MM+ per season. It just seems to make more sense - signing young guys who are as productive as UFAs, but to lower contracts because there's not an open bidding process.

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BRF - I don't think Squishy is leaving out the fact that Zherdev is RFA. If he was going to be UFA and scored 65 points, for argument's sake, he'd get over $6MM, or at least I believe he would. If extrapolations work out (and they never do), the leading scorer on this team will want more than $4MM per season - RFA or not (and he deserves that - assuming Zherdev gets back on track as he was to begin the season).

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this is a sticky situation. SBOB's right - we are talking about anohter inconsistent forward who will frustrate us. But of course, I'd rather pay a 23 year old who's leading the team in points $16-25MM over 4-5 years ($4MM-$5MM per) than the two guys this team is paying $7MM+ per season. It just seems to make more sense - signing young guys who are as productive as UFAs, but to lower contracts because there's not an open bidding process.
He has been the most consistent producer all season... and by far is our best forward.

It's his line mates that are the inconsistent ones.

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Zherdev has always picked his game up to another level when it matters the most. He'll be a force to reckon with in the play-offs.

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