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Looks like Knuble and Upshall are the odd men out...
i can see where the op is coming from. this offseason upshall can be had at a 2nd rd pick(assuming he gest the mandatory 10%) and knuble for nothing. the thing is both will play very valuable roles in the flyers playoff run. if the cap pushes them to trade a player (which it isnt) id still expect more back then in the offseason. so upshall would be a 2nd plus and knuble has his own thread
Does someone have a link that gives proof that we only have to shed 2 mil to bring back Briere? A couple of guys are saying that's the case but i can't find it anywhere...
I was reading the paper about 10 days ago and it clearly stated the Flyers need to shed 4.25 mil...
And for all you guys saying that Upshall and Knuble wont get traded let's put things into perspective (if i am indeed correct that we need to shed 4.25)
Knuble is a 2.8 hit with an expiring contract...people with expiring contracts tend to be traded at the deadline if the team thinks they can't resign him, especially since the cap came into play. The Flyers are going to try to resign Biron at the same value in the offseason is my guess because we lack depth between the pipes for sure...
Upshall, like i said, is a quality character to have on any team. A real boost at times, but lets remember he was also a healthy scratch late last season and he just doesn't put up the numbers that wingers in our farm put out / have the potential to put out. IMO, he's expendable, and although we're not "sellers," if we do have to lose 4.25 in cap hit, we are now sellers.
As far as me not thinking Jones is the "odd man out," i'll tell you why. The Flyers organization is all about depth, especially on the blue line. When you have a rash of injuries on D, and you can roll out NHL caliber defensemen all the way down to the 8th, 9th spot, that is a HUGE advantage to have, especially come March. Homer and Stevens know it, and they made it clear last offseason that their goal was to add depth on the blue line. Have they not done that? Why would they trade away that depth, especially if Sbisa is going back to juniors?
Does someone have a link that gives proof that we only have to shed 2 mil to bring back Briere? A couple of guys are saying that's the case but i can't find it anywhere...
I was reading the paper about 10 days ago and it clearly stated the Flyers need to shed 4.25 mil...
And for all you guys saying that Upshall and Knuble wont get traded let's put things into perspective (if i am indeed correct that we need to shed 4.25)
Knuble is a 2.8 hit with an expiring contract...people with expiring contracts tend to be traded at the deadline if the team thinks they can't resign him, especially since the cap came into play. The Flyers are going to try to resign Biron at the same value in the offseason is my guess because we lack depth between the pipes for sure...
Upshall, like i said, is a quality character to have on any team. A real boost at times, but lets remember he was also a healthy scratch late last season and he just doesn't put up the numbers that wingers in our farm put out / have the potential to put out. IMO, he's expendable, and although we're not "sellers," if we do have to lose 4.25 in cap hit, we are now sellers.
As far as me not thinking Jones is the "odd man out," i'll tell you why. The Flyers organization is all about depth, especially on the blue line. When you have a rash of injuries on D, and you can roll out NHL caliber defensemen all the way down to the 8th, 9th spot, that is a HUGE advantage to have, especially come March. Homer and Stevens know it, and they made it clear last offseason that their goal was to add depth on the blue line. Have they not done that? Why would they trade away that depth, especially if Sbisa is going back to juniors?
well, think of it this way. we used to have briere on the cap hit before jones came back. jones is back and now we need to shed salary. thus, the difference should be around jones's salary.
Jones has been rumored to be on the market. I believe if they weren't trying to move him that they would have sent Sbisa back to Lehtbridge by now. It just doesn't make sense if they were that desperate for cap room they would have sent him down long ago, I think they want to dump Jones and let Sbisa play on the 3rd pairing, if someone goes down you call up Kukkonen or Parent.
homer has as recently as yesterday (coatesies corner interview not available online) said hes not interested in trading his young players. so if your looking to read between the lines that means older guys will go first.
With Briere still sidelined, the Flyers can delay making a decision on whether to send rookie defenseman Luca Sbisa back to juniors. That's one of the options being considered for the team to get under the $56.7 million salary cap when Briere returns. It appears, however, that the Flyers can be under the cap if they put Jon Kalinski and Josh Gratton on the long-term injured list and send two other players to the Phantoms.
The assignment is necessary because the Flyers need to be certain he is fully recovered before activating him. Once they add Briere’s $6.5 million salary to the NHL roster, they will have to make significant roster moves – possibly even waiving or trading a player – to get under the $56.7 million salary cap.
Based on present personnel, it appears they have to lose a little over $3 million in salary.
Holmgren has insisted the Flyers only need to clear "about 2 million" off their salary figure to get Briere back on the active roster, but that number is likely closer to $3 million, if not more.
Jones will be the first player they would try to trade...not Knuble nor Upshall
combine Jones with Kukkonen (sent to minors or he goes to europe) and Sbisa (sent back to juniors) and thats $4.5m off the cap...more then enough room
Not that the Flyers would do it, but you could trade Hartenll for Antropov, no loss in offence, certainlly will miss the leadership and grit from Scott. Antropov is 1/2 the salary, clears up space for you guys next year, and you wouldn't have to send down some of your younger guys allowing them more NHL experience. I'm a big fan of Hartnell (sure alot if Flyers fans are) but Antro is my favourite Leaf, he's a very talented player.
Phillie frees up some money while gaining a swing D-man who is signed for another year.
Ottawa shakes up the forward ranks a little.
Terrible proposal. We have about 9 NHL defensemen as it is, and Schubert wouldn't help us. Upshall doesn't make that much, either. How about Ottawa taking Randy Jones for a 3rd? He's a slight upgrade on Schubert, and Matt Carle makes him redundant in Philly.
the odd man out is Jones or maybe Lupul. All it takes is Jones and a couple roll players sent down to the Phantoms and the numbers will be fine. Kukkonen already cleared waivers.
And Knuble isn't going to the Pens or Rangers. Holmgren isn't trading anyone worth anything within the division. How stupid would that be? Upshall isn't going anywhere - he's worth more than his contract.
Not that the Flyers would do it, but you could trade Hartenll for Antropov, no loss in offence, certainlly will miss the leadership and grit from Scott. Antropov is 1/2 the salary, clears up space for you guys next year, and you wouldn't have to send down some of your younger guys allowing them more NHL experience. I'm a big fan of Hartnell (sure alot if Flyers fans are) but Antro is my favourite Leaf, he's a very talented player.
why would the Flyers need a big lazy center to disappear in the playoffs for them?
Lupul's cap hit next season is to high for the Flyers. I could see Jones and Lupul to LA for a first rounder or a prospect package. Lupul will put up close to 30 this season.
id love to get a first but idk if anyone will be willing to move it. if we traded lupul and jones for a 1st and a 3rd lets say if we traded both first and two thirds and like nodl could we get into the top 6??
