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01-14-2009, 12:06 AM
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People are starting to see the Devils are not a trapping team I think? That was a valiant comeback attempt by the Canucks. That's the score you get when two back up goalies are playing, or three back up goalies in tonights case.
No the devils are very much a trapping team. AV in his post game comments talked about that a lot. Said the devils always have 5 men waiting in the neutral zone and it's tough to get in and attack a system like that.

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01-14-2009, 12:08 AM
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I think it's really early for some of the Canucks fans to be panicking so much.
I'm not panicking yet cause luongo is not here yet and we've been losing games due to **** goaltending. You have to understand, vancouver is a city with a ton of bandwagoners who scream bloody murder with every loss.

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01-14-2009, 12:10 AM
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Lets clear this up right now.

the ONLY reason we lost tonight and i mean ONLY
was our goaltending was horrible. Basically 3 Open netters to start the game, barbie flopping, and sanford slipping.
And the ONLY reason you were close to getting back into it and I mean ONLY was that Clemmer was in net. Brodeur doesn't give up that Bernier goal, and probably handles the Demitra one better as well, assuming he made all the other stops during the game where Clemmensen didn't really have to be spectacular.

You're looking at two teams with elite goaltenders, and tend to rely on them, without their elite netminders. If this is Luongo vs. Brodeur, this game is 2-1, going either way.

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And the ONLY reason you were close to getting back into it and I mean ONLY was that Clemmer was in net. Brodeur doesn't give up that Bernier goal, and probably handles the Demitra one better as well, assuming he made all the other stops during the game where Clemmensen didn't really have to be spectacular.

You're looking at two teams with elite goaltenders, and tend to rely on them, without their elite netminders. If this is Luongo vs. Brodeur, this game is 2-1, going either way.
nah, 1-0.

20 saves each.

isn't vancouver the only team brodeur has a losing record against? (no, nothing to do with the game I just remember hearing that before)

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No the devils are very much a trapping team. AV in his post game comments talked about that a lot. Said the devils always have 5 men waiting in the neutral zone and it's tough to get in and attack a system like that.
Well AV is a retard then and so is anyone that believes him. If AV sincerely believes that he should be no where near the bench of an NHL team.

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The Devils CAN be boring to play against, but not always. Hell there's plenty of teams that are more frequently boring than Jersey these days (check out Minnesota or Columbus).

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No the devils are very much a trapping team. AV in his post game comments talked about that a lot. Said the devils always have 5 men waiting in the neutral zone and it's tough to get in and attack a system like that.
You and Vigneault are both idiots then. He's an idiot for saying that because his crap team sucked it up to start the game and you for believing that nonsense out of his mouth.

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this could be a big turning point in the season for Vancouver, because now their fate is no longer in their own hands. Minnesota and Edmonton (9th and 10th in the conference) are both only 4 points back of them now with 3 games in hand and Colorado in 11th is 4 points back with 2 games in hand. now the Canucks not only need to start winning again to remain in the playoffs, they're gonna need some help from other teams

the pressure on Luongo to be the allmighty savior for this team when he returns is immense
Just curious... what's the magic number? 70?
Let the countdown commence!

It's way too early to be talking about "fate in their own hands"

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Well AV is a retard then and so is anyone that believes him. If AV sincerely believes that he should be no where near the bench of an NHL team.
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You and Vigneault are both idiots then. He's an idiot for saying that because his crap team sucked it up to start the game and you for believing that nonsense out of his mouth.

Well I would trust the opinion of an actual nhl coach who just watched the devils play over some people on a messageboard.

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Well I would trust the opinion of an actual nhl coach who just watched the devils play over some people on a messageboard.
Who just watched the Devils play and who watch the Devils play more than once or twice a season unlike this NHL coach, who sucks at that too.

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I'm thinking pretty much every team in the league will go through a 3-4 game losing stretch this season, so whats the big deal?

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Well I would trust the opinion of an actual nhl coach who just watched the devils play over some people on a messageboard.
Did you watch the game? I would love to see you get one fellow Canuck fan who watched the game to agree with you and AV that the Devils sat with "5 guys back." Just one.

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I'm thinking pretty much every team in the league will go through a 3-4 game losing stretch this season, so whats the big deal?
That the Canucks are actually this bad and the start of the season was just a fluke.

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Who just watched the Devils play and who watch the Devils play more than once or twice a season unlike this NHL coach, who sucks at that too.
In all fairness, you can watch every single game Team X plays without knowing what the trap looks like.

Besides, why are you being so defensive? Is it because people say the Devils are boring because of the trap they play? Why in the world should you care? They're WINNING!

Grow up.

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Who just watched the Devils play and who watch the Devils play more than once or twice a season unlike this NHL coach, who sucks at that too.
I'll take the Jack Adams winning coach over some random fan.

Seriously, a 3-0 lead early in the game, if you don't trap you're being stupid.

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01-14-2009, 12:31 AM
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No the devils are very much a trapping team. AV in his post game comments talked about that a lot. Said the devils always have 5 men waiting in the neutral zone and it's tough to get in and attack a system like that.
They are not a traping team, they are all about pressure on the puck carrier. They go with a 2 man forecheck at most times and their defensmen pinch more then 2/3 of the teams in the NHL. They usually have 3 men back which is reasonable but the main thing is they always and I mean always have backcheck pressure on the play which causes a lot of turnovers.

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I'm thinking pretty much every team in the league will go through a 3-4 game losing stretch this season, so whats the big deal?
It's not considering we're losing games due to crappy goaltending lately. The last 3 games were lost directly due to goaltending. With luongo they would be 3-0 in that span and this thread wouldn't be created. With luongo for the 24 games he's been out and the canucks would be ahead of the flames right now.

This is an overreaction thread. It's like a caps or flames fans saying their team sucks if ovechkin or kipper went down and they started losing a bunch of games.

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In all fairness, you can watch every single game Team X plays without knowing what the trap looks like.

Besides, why are you being so defensive? Is it because people say the Devils are boring because of the trap they play? Why in the world should you care? They're WINNING!

Grow up.
In all fairness we watched all the years with Lemaire and Burns, we have an idea what the trap is. In past years the Devils would let the play come to them and clog off all passing lanes. Now they pressure the other team into making poor passes which also causes turnovers. If you are going to play aggressive, you might as well play a positionally sound game in the process.

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It's not considering we're losing games due to crappy goaltending lately. The last 3 games were lost directly due to goaltending. With luongo they would be 3-0 in that span and this thread wouldn't be created. With luongo for the 24 games he's been out and the canucks would be ahead of the flames right now.

This is an overreaction thread. It's like a caps or flames fans saying their team sucks if ovechkin or kipper went down and they started losing a bunch of games.
But its not like NJ, who keeps on winning with Brodeur down. Brodeur means as much as Luongo, if not more, and has been injured longer then Luongo yet we aren't crying. We outscore the other team with "our trap".

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In all fairness we watched all the years with Lemaire and Burns, we have an idea what the trap is. In past years the Devils would let the play come to them and clog off all passing lanes. Now they pressure the other team into making poor passes which also causes turnovers. If you are going to play aggressive, you might as well play a positionally sound game in the process.
We forecheck and play sound defensive hockey? What a concept.

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But its not like NJ, who keeps on winning with Brodeur down. Brodeur means as much as Luongo, if not more, and has been injured longer then Luongo yet we aren't crying. We outscore the other team with "our trap".
Actually, it appears, quite the opposite is true. Clemmy actually has a higher SVP% then Brodeur had when he went down, while the Canucks goaltending, has been significantly worse then Luongo.

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But its not like NJ, who keeps on winning with Brodeur down. Brodeur means as much as Luongo, if not more, and has been injured longer then Luongo yet we aren't crying. We outscore the other team with "our trap".
You guys have the trap to protect you and clemmer's stats are far superior to any of the goalies the canucks have used during luongo's absence. The canucks aren't even getting average goaltending right now. We're getting below average to terrible goaltending at the moment.

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Hey an avs fan from Kamloops. Since 1996 or 2001?

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Actually, it appears, quite the opposite is true. Clemmy actually has a higher SVP% then Brodeur had when he went down, while the Canucks goaltending, has been significantly worse then Luongo.
The Devils team lost 5 or 6 in a row without Brodeur when he got injured, they steped it up big time afterwords when the shock ran out. 95% of the saves Clemmensen makes are original shots, very rarely is there a 2nd or 3rd chance. If a goaltender can't make a 1st shot save then he shouldn't be a pro goaltender.

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