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01-18-2009, 03:03 PM
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Gomez terrible anyone?

Over the past two months... excuse me if there has already been a thread i didn't see one on the first page... I have grown livid with the way Gomez is playing... He is brutal. His speed has not even been working out for him lately. When he gets control in the offensive zone, he makes blind passes to the front of the net like a dumb peewee player in travel hockey. He has almost no strength on the puck, and big defensmen are able to knock him off it with ease. On top of that, he can't catch a pass when we need him to. I want him out of NYC before he rots the rangers' salary and their future by bringing us down. Trade him for a young up and coming center that can win a draw. I'm sorry but no one can deny that this rant is unfounded. Get him out!

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01-18-2009, 03:07 PM
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gomez isnt terrible, he just is a 4 million dollar player and not a 7+ million dollar player. many teams would love to have gomez on their team, just not as his salary.

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01-18-2009, 03:08 PM
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He can't make anything happen out there. I'd trade him for Nylander strait up.

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01-18-2009, 03:14 PM
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He can't make anything happen out there. I'd trade him for Nylander strait up.
i think a lot of people would do that because nylander makes a lot less money and has less years on his contract. Nylander has also been injury prone throughout his career. Besides Jagrs gone, why would we want to go back to nylander?

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01-18-2009, 03:18 PM
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With Nylander, we are guaranteed at least 10 seconds of posession time, something Zherdev brings as well. These guys make other players better... and you can't say that Nylander's excellent seasons two and three years ago are entirely because of Jagr. If you get a chance watch Nylander play right now in WSH... he still is very effective. He can hold onto the puck... and can make the occasional nifty pass. Gomez looks like he is playing street hockey out there... it's hard to watch without throwing something.

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01-18-2009, 03:24 PM
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With Nylander, we are guaranteed at least 10 seconds of posession time, something Zherdev brings as well. These guys make other players better... and you can't say that Nylander's excellent seasons two and three years ago are entirely because of Jagr. If you get a chance watch Nylander play right now in WSH... he still is very effective. He can hold onto the puck... and can make the occasional nifty pass. Gomez looks like he is playing street hockey out there... it's hard to watch without throwing something.
i dont know if you can say his play in washington is highly effective, he is on the 2nd best scoring team in the east, 5th in the NHL, and he has 22 points. Dubinsky has been absent the last 25 games, and has more points than him.

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01-18-2009, 03:58 PM
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Id LOVE to bump the Gomez signing thread...there were maybe 3 people on this entire board, including myself that said this would be a colossal failure of a signing.

He and Drury, 2 worst offseason signings ever...followed by Redden which overtook those 2 as the worst offseason signing ever.

Terrible management by Sather, particularly the years.

I could stomach Gomez for 3 years and Drury for 2, because then theyd be stopgap players. 7 and 5, with 6 for Redden?

Frigging disgusting.

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01-18-2009, 03:59 PM
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Id LOVE to bump the Gomez signing thread...there were maybe 3 people on this entire board, including myself that said this would be a colossal failure of a signing.

He and Drury, 2 worst offseason signings ever...followed by Redden which overtook those 2 as the worst offseason signing ever.

Terrible management by Sather, particularly the years.

I could stomach Gomez for 3 years and Drury for 2, because then theyd be stopgap players. 7 and 5, with 6 for Redden?

Frigging disgusting.
Brad Richards, anyone?

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01-18-2009, 04:12 PM
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Gomez has speed and skills. He just can't shoot. Kind of reminds me of Adam Oates..pure assist man.

I think he can be effective playing with the right players. Put him with a power forward that can create space for himself, and I bet you'll see some strong results. Zherdev is great, but he doesn't cycle...he's a dangler.

I liked Nylander back with Jagr, but that's done...no point in bringing a 38 year old back. I mean who is he going to cycle with?

If I had to get rid of someone, Drury and Redden are top two on my list.

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01-18-2009, 04:17 PM
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Brad Richards, anyone?


Id love to get something of value for Gomez, Redden and Drury, but it doesnt have to be equal in terms of what they are paid to do.

Id love to get Sheldon Souray outta Edmonton. Slapper from the point we could really use, and some toughness. Not the best defensive player for sure, but brings pieces we desperately need.

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01-18-2009, 04:34 PM
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I think he still might be feeling his injury. He's lost two steps, and the lack of confidence and fire is killing his decision making ability.

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Gomez is useless

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01-18-2009, 05:07 PM
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I honestly don't think he's healthy. Even Gomez at his worst last year was much better than this.

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He isnt terrible or bad. He is just being paid too much ( like Drury ) and it leads you to want more than what they are capable of.

Gomez is a 60-70 point player who this season is playing up to the standards of a 60-70 point player.
Its really not his fault that someone decided to pay him like a 90-100 point player.


Dont blame Gomez and Drury for playing up to their usual level. Blame the dude that throws money around.

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01-18-2009, 05:29 PM
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Id love to get something of value for Gomez, Redden and Drury, but it doesnt have to be equal in terms of what they are paid to do.

Id love to get Sheldon Souray outta Edmonton. Slapper from the point we could really use, and some toughness. Not the best defensive player for sure, but brings pieces we desperately need.
Kalinin sucks on D too. But does he bring anything else?? Not really, especially not a mean streak.

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Kalinin sucks on D too. But does he bring anything else?? Not really, especially not a mean streak.
That hip check on Sid the Skid was mean. Vintage Kaspar.

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He isnt terrible or bad. He is just being paid too much ( like Drury ) and it leads you to want more than what they are capable of.

Gomez is a 60-70 point player who this season is playing up to the standards of a 60-70 point player.
Its really not his fault that someone decided to pay him like a 90-100 point player.


Dont blame Gomez and Drury for playing up to their usual level. Blame the dude that throws money around.
No one forced them to take that much money, or play in NY.
If you choose to accept that kind of a contract, you have to accept the responsibility and expectations that go along with it.

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01-18-2009, 06:27 PM
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I think he still might be feeling his injury. He's lost two steps, and the lack of confidence and fire is killing his decision making ability.
Then get him to the press box for a month so he can heal. If hes going to play like this all season because hes not at 100% then I dont want him anywhere near the ice till playoff time.

Bring up AA, let Gomez heal for a few weeks.

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No one forced them to take that much money, or play in NY.
If you choose to accept that kind of a contract, you have to accept the responsibility and expectations that go along with it.
I'm sure he has accepted the responsibility, it doesn't mean that he's magically going to turn into a 100 point player.

Gomez hasn't been great but the really sad thing as bad as he's been he's still 3rd on this team in points...

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Id LOVE to bump the Gomez signing thread...there were maybe 3 people on this entire board, including myself that said this would be a colossal failure of a signing.

He and Drury, 2 worst offseason signings ever...followed by Redden which overtook those 2 as the worst offseason signing ever.

Terrible management by Sather, particularly the years.

I could stomach Gomez for 3 years and Drury for 2, because then theyd be stopgap players. 7 and 5, with 6 for Redden?

Frigging disgusting.
I don't have a single problem with Drury, but Gomez on the other hand.....yuck.

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01-18-2009, 07:19 PM
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Then get him to the press box for a month so he can heal. If hes going to play like this all season because hes not at 100% then I dont want him anywhere near the ice till playoff time.

Bring up AA, let Gomez heal for a few weeks.
Good idea - 'specially with the break coming.

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gomez isnt terrible, he just is a 4 million dollar player and not a 7+ million dollar player. many teams would love to have gomez on their team, just not as his salary.
Exactly, last year (and this year) he's putting up the exact same numbers as he always did with the Devils. It's just that Sather thought he's score 20 or 30 more points each year once he was gone from the "boring" Devils, and he was wrong.

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I remember earlier in the season I felt like Gomez was playing well but his wingers just weren't converting on the opportunities he was providing.

Recently, though, he's not even setting anybody up. He just skates into the zone, looks around, and usually turns the puck over.

Oh, and BTW, Zherdev is a better passer than Gomez. Just felt like throwing that in there since that was a pretty big debate a couple of weeks ago.

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01-18-2009, 07:53 PM
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Exactly, last year (and this year) he's putting up the exact same numbers as he always did with the Devils. It's just that Sather thought he's score 20 or 30 more points each year once he was gone from the "boring" Devils, and he was wrong.
Umm ... remember the promise the Rangers made to him? We will play the offensive style suited to your game and make you a two hundred point player ... lol. This team is extremely boring and more defense oriented than the Devils ever were.

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Heh.

I don't think he has been THAT bad. It seems like he can't find the chemistry with his linemates to make intelligent use of his penetrative abilities (no homo), and since his first instinct 99% of the time is to pass, it makes him look particularly bad when in reality it is likely a lack of chemistry from the whole line.


Buuuuuuuuuuut.... I'll just say, he's terrible.

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