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01-22-2009, 02:58 PM
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There's only a chance in that nothing is guaranteed. But otherwise, no, he's out for the season.

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01-22-2009, 03:51 PM
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There's only a chance in that nothing is guaranteed. But otherwise, no, he's out for the season.
So you're saying there's a chance? Yes!

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01-22-2009, 07:50 PM
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His surgery was scheduled for January. Has there been any report for how it went? (Or if it's not done yet, what's the date?) Usually in this situation there'd be a brief news report about a "successful sugery" but I haven't been able to find one.


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01-22-2009, 08:02 PM
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I haven't seen anything either, but at the same time Zubov is a pretty private guy. I've not even seen it posted anywhere what exactly is wrong with him outside of it is something with his hip.

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01-22-2009, 08:57 PM
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Zubov had successful hip surgery in Colorado on January 6th. He's out for the season.

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I dont want him back

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01-22-2009, 10:46 PM
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I dont want him back
what?

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01-22-2009, 11:00 PM
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what?
I'm assuming he meant this season, which would be a wise decision.

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01-22-2009, 11:28 PM
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If we re-sign Zubie, it better be at a base of $1.5 mill with bonuses in the contract. He doesn't deserve a $5 mill contract this time around.

I hope he does come back next season and play for us.

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01-23-2009, 12:29 AM
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If Zubov wants to play next year, the Stars will sign him regardless of his demands. He's not the type of guy to put the team over a barrel, but I imagine he'll want around $4.5 million on a one-year deal. The Stars wouldn't walk away from him, and he wouldn't walk away from a reasonable contract either.

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01-23-2009, 12:54 AM
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The good thing about Zubov is he's eligible for a bonus-laden contract, given his age and injury issue's this year.

I can see them going a base salary of $2-$2.5 million with bonuses up to the $4.5 million range and to me, that would be acceptable (particularly because the bonuses should have some cap relief again next season).

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01-23-2009, 02:40 PM
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No he is too old to play he has lost his groove
we can use tht salary and get a new young d man who is at the beinging of his prime

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01-24-2009, 03:40 PM
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No he is too old to play he has lost his groove
we can use tht salary and get a new young d man who is at the beinging of his prime
Even when playing hurt, he's still the best d-man the Stars have by a mile. The drop off from Zubov to the rest of the group is huge, and we're seeing that play out on the ice this year.

When Zubov re-signs, it will be for a much lower amount than he was getting on his recent contracts. The Stars have a few young guys. They don't need youth on defense. They need stability.

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01-27-2009, 01:04 PM
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I'd like to see Zubov pull a Niedermayer and sit out the first half and join the team mid season next year.

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01-27-2009, 01:13 PM
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I'd like to see Zubov pull a Niedermayer and sit out the first half and join the team mid season next year.
I believe that will happen, but unlike Niedermayer it will be because of injury.

I doubt that he will sign a contract until he is 100% healthy and ready to go.

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01-27-2009, 02:23 PM
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Agreed on Zubov, Lehtinen should do the same neither one can stay healthy for a entire season then play both limited minutes and scratch them on back to back regular season games.

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If Zubov and Lehtinen don't re-sign at the beginning of the season then that's a good thing for our cap. Without Lehts and Zubov that's 9 mil. of free space alone. Then here's hoping they don't resign Sydor it will be close to 12 mil. in cap space. I hope management spends their money wisely this time.

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01-27-2009, 03:25 PM
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It's not a good thing at all. Teams don't want uncertainty built into their budget. Niedermayer's delay put the Ducks in cap hell.

And no one's getting scratched randomly through the season to rest, that's absurd.

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01-27-2009, 03:36 PM
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Maybe Zubov will play for league minimum since he was payed this season and hasn't played any?

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01-27-2009, 03:36 PM
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don't resign Zubov. Sign Bouwmeester.

Bouwmeester Grossman
Robidas Daley
Niskanen Fistric

would be just fine with me.

Hutchinson is signed through next year and is a 7th.

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01-27-2009, 03:49 PM
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You act as though signing Bouwmeester is as easy as handing him a bag of money and telling him he's now a Star.

There will be numerous teams (25-29?) after his services if/when he becomes an UFA. And I say if, because he's more than likely going to be traded to a contender by the trade deadline and they could very well offer him a long term contract that would keep him from even hitting UFA status.

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01-27-2009, 04:07 PM
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All true. But Dallas could be an attractive spot. And with all of the contracts expiring at the end of this year, we could have a lot room to bid on a 25 yr old number one defenseman.

We should at least throw our hat in the ring and take a real shot at it.

We need a number one defenseman. Daley Robidas Fistric Niskanen Grossman are all locks for next year it seems (barring a trade).

With Lehts making 4 this year, Zubov making 6, Sydor making 2.5 that's a lot of cap space. I would rather throw money at Bouwmeester than hope Zubov stays healthy. I love zubie but he's not the guy anymore.

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01-27-2009, 04:12 PM
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You act as though signing Bouwmeester is as easy as handing him a bag of money and telling him he's now a Star.

There will be numerous teams (25-29?) after his services if/when he becomes an UFA. And I say if, because he's more than likely going to be traded to a contender by the trade deadline and they could very well offer him a long term contract that would keep him from even hitting UFA status.
If he hits the open market, 29 teams will be after him, assuming Floriday doesn't make another push. While I don't think he's that great of a player, he's the youngest, best d-man to hit the open market in years.

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01-27-2009, 05:07 PM
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I was just trying to take into account the teams that can't afford him due to cap or financial issues (i.e., PHX, though that's an example based around a partial understanding of their situation).

I'm not saying the Stars shouldn't take a stab at him, by all means they should at least kick the tires. I just doubt Dallas is at the top of the heap of teams that will pursue him, though with that said I would have no issues with Bouwmeester being a Star.

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01-27-2009, 05:14 PM
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I concur with you, 'theheadmata.' There's no freaking way he ends up in Dallas if for no other reason than the Stars won't have the cap room to fit him in. It's a pipe dream to believe Zubov would sign for around $2 million and Lehtinen for the same, or to conclude the team would not re-sign both.

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