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01-19-2009, 06:51 PM
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CANADIENS: The All-Era Team (per Sports Illustrated)

Not sure if this was posted, but in the new Sports Illustrated, 'The Canadiens Century', has "All-Era" clubs from each decade/era.

THE PRE-WAR YEARS
Aurele Joliat - Howie Morenz - John Gangon
Sylvio Mantha - Albert Leduc
Georges Vezina

THE POST-WAR YEARS
Dickie Moore - Jean Beliveau - Maurice Richard
Doug Harvey - Tom Johnson
Jacques Plante

THE 1960's
Gilles Tremblay - Henri Richard - Bernie Geoffrion
Jacques Laperriere - J.C. Tremblay
Jacques Plante

THE 1970's
Bob Gainey - Jacques Lemaire - Guy Lafleur
Serge Sevard - Larry Robinson
Ken Dryden

THE 1980's & 1990's
Mats Naslund - Guy Carbonneau - Stephane Richer
Chris Chelios - Larry Robinson
Patrick Roy

THE 2000's & BEYOND
Christopher Higgins - Saku Koivu - Michael Ryder
Andrei Markov - Patrice Brisebois
Jose Theodore

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Brisebois our second best defenseman in the last decade? I would give that to Komi or Souray.

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DAMN! those are some sexy teams

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Brisebois our second best defenseman in the last decade? I would give that to Komi or Souray.
that is deffinatly a eyebrow raiser

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Brisebois our second best defenseman in the last decade? I would give that to Komi or Souray.
Add Rivet as well, he's better than Breezer.

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Patrice is one of the best known names on the Montreal Canadiens for the last 20 years. I don't really agree with the 2000's and beyond list with Higgins and Ryder. I'd replace Kovalev with Ryder and Higgins with... maybe Zednik? Ugh, maybe we have been terrible on the LW enough for Higgins to land it.

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Replace Gagnon by Pit Lépine or Joe Malone, Johnson by Butch Bouchard or Talbot. Kovalev and Souray need to be on THE 2000's & BEYOND TEAM.

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So Ryder instead of Kovalev?

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The 2000s and beyond is awfull at best...

Michael Ryder? Higgins? Brisebois?

Come on... as for Théodore... well for a couple of years maybe...

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You could have two lines for sure + add another star d-man for the seventies.

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That's a very well put together list. The biggest question I'd have is Geoffrion as the RW for the 60's - he had a great season in 60/61 but after that was outscored by Claude Provost and Bobby Rousseau for most of the decade. He was outstanding in the fifties but had trailed off by that point.

Butch Bouchard built his reputation during the war (I'm not sure what the cutoff for pre-war/post-war would be) but you could make a good argument for him over one of Leduc or Johnson.

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That's a very well put together list. The biggest question I'd have is Geoffrion as the RW for the 60's - he had a great season in 60/61 but after that was outscored by Claude Provost and Bobby Rousseau for most of the decade. He was outstanding in the fifties but had trailed off by that point.

Butch Bouchard built his reputation during the war (I'm not sure what the cutoff for pre-war/post-war would be) but you could make a good argument for him over one of Leduc or Johnson.
Agree. Butch Bouchard MUST be there. he was the best with Eddie Shore at the end of the 40's.

+ PLante was not there very long during the 60's- Worsley and Hodge were taking care of the nets. Vachon was really good at the end of this decade.

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That's a very well put together list. The biggest question I'd have is Geoffrion as the RW for the 60's - he had a great season in 60/61 but after that was outscored by Claude Provost and Bobby Rousseau for most of the decade. He was outstanding in the fifties but had trailed off by that point.

Butch Bouchard built his reputation during the war (I'm not sure what the cutoff for pre-war/post-war would be) but you could make a good argument for him over one of Leduc or Johnson.
Not that I really know what you're talking about, but I think people would be more upset that BOOM BOOM isnt on any team, then if Provost and Rousseau are missing.

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Prety good list even though I don't think Carbonneau would've made it if the 80s and 90s are not together.

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Not that I really know what you're talking about, but I think people would be more upset that BOOM BOOM isnt on any team, then if Provost and Rousseau are missing.
Yeah, that's probably the rationale behind it. There's no chance he's taking the post-war spot over Richard.

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Replace Gagnon by Pit Lépine or Joe Malone, Johnson by Butch Bouchard or Talbot. Kovalev and Souray need to be on THE 2000's & BEYOND TEAM.
Lepine was a center and Malone a LW/C as far as I know. If you're going to play someone out of position beside Joliat/Morenz, I think Lalonde makes the most sense.

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WOW...that is a terrible job on the most recent one. Also there should be a distinction between what they listed as the 90's and the post-Roy before 2k era. Something involving Turgeon, Recchi, Malakhov, Koivu, Tbo (not that he was amazing, but he was very much a part of THAT version). Also...what about Muller? Desjardins? Damphouse?

As for the aforementioned horrible recent one, more like:
Kovalev, Koivu, Zednik (as good as Ryder and Higgy were, it don't think they were/are dominant long enough to call it), Markov, Komi. Theo i'm ok with. Sometimes we forget how much we revered him. No point listing the current edition, cuz clearly Kosty and Price would crack that.

And if Komi is too pre-emptive, then DEF Souray (Rivet as a leader, not player)

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WOW...that is a terrible job on the most recent one. Also there should be a distinction between what they listed as the 90's and the post-Roy before 2k era. Something involving Turgeon, Recchi, Malakhov, Koivu, Tbo (not that he was amazing, but he was very much a part of THAT version). Also...what about Muller? Desjardins? Damphouse?

As for the aforementioned horrible recent one, more like:
Kovalev, Koivu, Zednik (as good as Ryder and Higgy were, it don't think they were/are dominant long enough to call it), Markov, Komi. Theo i'm ok with. Sometimes we forget how much we revered him. No point listing the current edition, cuz clearly Kosty and Price would crack that.

And if Komi is too pre-emptive, then DEF Souray (Rivet as a leader, not player)

I agree, but is it a list of players we drafted? I'm too lazy to look into it, but it does have the looks of it.

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Kovalev and Souray need to be on THE 2000's & BEYOND TEAM.
Without a doubt.

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[QUOTE=pitseleh;17443469]Yeah, that's probably the rationale behind it. There's no chance he's taking the post-war spot over Richard.



Lepine was a center and Malone a LW/C as far as I know. If you're going to play someone out of position beside Joliat/Morenz, I think Lalonde makes the most sense.[
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I agree. Newsy lalonde dominated the NHA, with more than 1.25 goals per game. He should be there before Gagnon. He was a jackass, but he still was the best Habs of his era. Malone was not productive that much with Montreal. Joe Malone was productive with Québec.

Heck, you can even argue that Didier Pitre was as good as Aurèle.

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And what about Damphousse in the 80's - 90's ?

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Overall not bad but not sure about Breezer, Ryder and Carbo.

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A list like this can never be right for everyone.

It is simply fun to chat about.

I was shocked with the Ryder pick, but then again.... he did have 2 30+ goal seasons... and was drafted by the Habs.

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I agree, but is it a list of players we drafted? I'm too lazy to look into it, but it does have the looks of it.
Yup, that,s what it seems like

But still, Komi > Breezer.

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A list like this can never be right for everyone.

It is simply fun to chat about.

I was shocked with the Ryder pick, but then again.... he did have 2 30+ goal seasons... and was drafted by the Habs.
I think Ryder (not including this season) may have the most goals by any Canadien in the 2000's. The only other guy who may be close is Zednik.

After looking up the numbers, Ryder scored 99 goals with the Canadiens in comparison with Zednik's 98. Ryder also played in less games (314) than Zednik (322).

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Pretty good job overall, I dont agree with the most recent team as most have pointed out as well...

Why are 80's and 90's together?

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