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01-20-2009, 11:08 AM
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There wasn't a teleprompter.

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There wasn't a teleprompter.
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01-20-2009, 11:11 AM
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There wasn't a teleprompter.
He probably thought the oath was his ace in the hole and has been drilling the speech. Repeat after me should be limited to three words in high stress situations. He started repeating too early then spaced a line, then roberts butchered it trying to help him out.

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01-20-2009, 11:37 AM
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They'll have to muddle through without the services of the awesome Michael Nylander, who will be a healthy scratch in favor of Steckel.

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01-20-2009, 11:42 AM
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They'll have to muddle through without the services of the awesome Michael Nylander, who will be a healthy scratch in favor of Steckel.
Oh darn.

Interesting quotes in Tarik's blog post.

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01-20-2009, 11:57 AM
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Oh darn.

Interesting quotes in Tarik's blog post.
Those quotes really, for the first time, make me think that Nylander may well be willing to accept a trade to a lesser team. Not an awful team, but a team in the position of a Buffalo or a Columbus. Even if they are crappy places to live.

He sounds profoundly unhappy and frustrated.

It's going to be very interesting to see what transpires.

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01-20-2009, 12:02 PM
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please provide said quotes.

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01-20-2009, 12:05 PM
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Ehh, we really need to find a way to nip this Nylander situation in the bud soon before it blows up.

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Interesting quotes indeed. Both sides have a point. Sometimes a player needs the coach to put some faith in him and I don't know that that's ever really happened with Boudreau. Nylander's play hasn't exactly inspired a lot of confidence at times but sometimes a player needs to be put in situations to thrive and a vote of confidence. At some point you either a.) need the coach to put faith in the player and that he's a key component or b.) need to move the player to another team that will better surround and utilize his abilities. Everything points to b.) at this point and while that would likely help their cap situation it's still an unfortunate situation all around.

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please provide said quotes.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/cap...update_17.html

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Nylander is frustrated and disappointed with the way things have gone, and he reluctantly addressed the situation when I approached him.

"I feel good on the ice, but it doesn't matter," he said. "We'll have to see what we can do, what happens."

When I asked him if his struggles were the result of his playing style not meshing with Boudreau's, Nylander said: "I don't know. I am not the coach. What can I say? This is the way he wants to do it. I just have to figure a way around it."

"I know how the system works," he added. "I don't have a problem with the system. The system is quite easily played."

What Nylander does have an issue with, though, is bouncing from line to line and the reduction in his playing time in recent games. In his past five games, he's skated 12:55 or less three times.

"Of course it's not helping," he said of moving around in the lineup. "It's tough to find chemistry. But that's not the [only] issue."

"It's about playing time," Nylander added. "I was playing more before and now I don't play anything. That's the big difference."

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01-20-2009, 12:11 PM
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Interesting quotes indeed. Both sides have a point. Sometimes a player needs the coach to put some faith in him and I don't know that that's ever really happened with Boudreau. Nylander's play hasn't exactly inspired a lot of confidence at times but sometimes a player needs to be put in situations to thrive and a vote of confidence. At some point you either a.) need the coach to put faith in the player and that he's a key component or b.) need to move the player to another team that will better surround and utilize his abilities. Everything points to b.) at this point and while that would likely help their cap situation it's still an unfortunate situation all around.
Who would want him at that price, though?

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01-20-2009, 12:14 PM
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thanks strung, looks like the trade thread will now need a part 2!

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Who would want him at that price, though?
Therein lies the other problem, especially with the uncertainty regarding the cap. There's a very real danger that other teams simply look at his botched management and thinks he's finished as an effective scoring-line player.

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i think nylander is a good 3. center for the caps system, his contract is just a killer.

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01-20-2009, 01:07 PM
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Ehh, we really need to find a way to nip this Nylander situation in the bud soon before it blows up.
It's already "blown up" as much as it will.

Nylander's production and effort are not there and haven't been since pre-season.

I believe the trade rumors/botched deal happened in Oct./Nov.

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I thought about going...but I hate people in general...so it's better for everyone involved that I watch from the warmth of home.
But Rachel will be there. Right?

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01-20-2009, 01:42 PM
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i think nylander is a good 3. center for the caps system, his contract is just a killer.
I don't think you can say Nyls is a good #3, period. He needs to be getting more ice time, especially on the PP, if he's going to produce. #3 guys don't get enough in that respect so he's not effective in that role.


Of course therein lies the rub. Fedorov is better in the #2 role for this team than Nylander is, and Nyls hasn't exactly earned the right to jump him on the depth chart through his play this season.

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01-20-2009, 01:44 PM
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stumbled on the oath, doh
Chief Justice Roberts and President Obama has a little stumble dance going there.

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I don't think you can say Nyls is a good #3, period. He needs to be getting more ice time, especially on the PP, if he's going to produce. #3 guys don't get enough in that respect so he's not effective in that role.


Of course therein lies the rub. Fedorov is better in the #2 role for this team than Nylander is, and Nyls hasn't exactly earned the right to jump him on the depth chart through his play this season.
Solution?

Salary dump (AKA Nylander dump).

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01-20-2009, 01:55 PM
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I'm hoping for an entertaining high-scoring game after yesterdays sleeping-pill.

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I'm hoping for an entertaining high-scoring game after yesterdays sleeping-pill.
2 points is 2 points.

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True, but I still prefer a fun game over a boring one.

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01-20-2009, 02:16 PM
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Perhaps Nylander needs to be primarily relegated to PP PK and 4 on 4. He is not good on faceoffs, but then again neither is Backstrom. Without looking at the stats, I dont think they centers have fared well in the faceoff dot this year. It just seems like we lose the big faceoff too frequently, something stats wont show anyway. Maybe we need to fly Dale in for a weekend of faceoff school.

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I'm not sure how teams view Nylander. He was a point per game player in New York, jumped out to a good scoring binge under Hanlon (19 points in 21 games), got hurt, and has never found his niche under the vastly different system run by BB. Both Hanlon and Renney run conservative, trapping systems. Plenty of teams run similar ones. The issue is just finding a team willing to take the gamble that the problem with Nylander is bad fit and not a depletion of skills due to age and injury. At this point, I imagine we'd give him away for free.


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