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01-20-2009, 05:33 PM
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Come July 1, 2009, teams will have substantial payroll room again to assemble their teams for next season. If McPhee is inclined, it may be possible at that point to shed the salary in trade, particularly if he is not especially concerned with the return. It becomes almost impossible again in October, when teams have assembled their rosters and used up their cap space.

Barring a trade, though, I expect him in DC all next season. Summer 2010, with a single year left on the deal at a reduced rate, a buyout becomes a lot more likely. At that point, it's 2/3 of some hybrid of the cap number ($4.875M) and the amount of actual salary remaining ($3M) on the deal, and it's fairly complex to arrive at that number. The team has the option either to take the hit all at once, or to spread that 2/3 over two years (1/3 each year).

That becomes far easier to absorb than four years were he to be bought out this summer.
I think our only hope of getting rid of Nylander is to find a team that is rebuilding and has cap space they are willing to spend. That way we can move Nylander and a prospect in a package for another player with a salary.

For example, Nylander and Shultz to Toronto for Kubina. Not saying that will happen, just an example of what I am talking about.

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01-20-2009, 05:35 PM
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He would only have one year left after next season, would he not?
I thought you were talking about buying him out this offseason. My bad.

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The way I see it, next season won't be problematic. Fedorov and Kozlov come off the books and are expendable, in my opinion. The season after that, when Backstrom, Semin and Fleischmann need raises is when Nylander's cap hit might be a concern.

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He would only have one year left after next season, would he not?
Correct. 1 year @ $3.0 million. 2/3 of that is $2.0 million, which, spread out over two years is a cap hit of $1.0 million.

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The way I see it, next season won't be problematic. Fedorov and Kozlov come off the books and are expendable, in my opinion. The season after that, when Backstrom, Semin and Fleischmann need raises is when Nylander's cap hit might be a concern.
True, but don't forget that's when Theo's contract comes off.

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The way I see it, next season won't be problematic. Fedorov and Kozlov come off the books and are expendable, in my opinion. The season after that, when Backstrom, Semin and Fleischmann need raises is when Nylander's cap hit might be a concern.
Thats true, however we will have the problem of Nylander not finding chemistry with anyone. Even if Fedorov and Kozlov go, I would still love to see Nylander get moved.

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Thats true, however we will have the problem of Nylander not finding chemistry with anyone. Even if Fedorov and Kozlov go, I would still love to see Nylander get moved.
I'm not impressed by Nylander's play, but who do you suggest becomes our second line center?

Fedorov is skating on glass ankles, Kozlov is a black hole as a center, Laich doesn't have enough offensive touch, Bourque may not be ready, Gustaffsson is having injury problems. I can't think of a person who is capable of centering the second line competently for the entire season. Laich can be the second line center for spans, but I don't think he has it in him to do it for the entire season. That's the only reason I want Nylander to stay for one more season.

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I'm not impressed by Nylander's play, but who do you suggest becomes our second line center?

Fedorov is skating on glass ankles, Kozlov is a black hole as a center, Laich doesn't have enough offensive touch, Bourque may not be ready, Gustaffsson is having injury problems. I can't think of a person who is capable of centering the second line competently for the entire season. Laich can be the second line center for spans, but I don't think he has it in him to do it for the entire season. That's the only reason I want Nylander to stay for one more season.
Laich can handle it.

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01-20-2009, 06:11 PM
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Laich can handle it.
I agree, I would love to see Laich have a bigger role on this team. Put him at center with two skilled wingers and I think you would have an excellent 2nd line.

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Laich can handle it.
And if you don't trust him you try to sign someone else to short term deal. Maybe you get BB to try and convince Squid-man to come here...

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Laich can handle it.
I don't see how he could be worse than Nylander at this point. Numbers don't tell the whole story, but Nylander's on a pace for under 40 points this year, and has been an on-and-off healthy scratch. For a guy with his talent, he's having a poor season, especially considering his contract (GMGM's mistake, not Nylander's).

It's clear that he wants out, and management wants him out. They are prepared to live life without Nylander as a 2nd line center.

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I agree, I would love to see Laich have a bigger role on this team. Put him at center with two skilled wingers and I think you would have an excellent 2nd line.
Behind SOB, I think a Bourque - Laich - Flash line could end up being surprisingly effective as a second line. Or, if we're looking for more balance, flip Semin and Flash. That leaves you with Giroux/Osala - Gordo - Clark/Fehr as a 3rd line and Brash - Steckel - Brads as the 4th line. And that's with zero additions and only a couple re-signings of cheap guys. We could then go out and sign some higher priced veterans to 1-year deals and be in really decent shape for re-signing Backstrom and Semin.

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01-20-2009, 06:18 PM
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I'm not impressed by Nylander's play, but who do you suggest becomes our second line center?

Fedorov is skating on glass ankles, Kozlov is a black hole as a center, Laich doesn't have enough offensive touch, Bourque may not be ready, Gustaffsson is having injury problems. I can't think of a person who is capable of centering the second line competently for the entire season. Laich can be the second line center for spans, but I don't think he has it in him to do it for the entire season. That's the only reason I want Nylander to stay for one more season.


Didn't Fedorov say this was his first ankle problem of his entire career? His ankle's aren't like Forsberg's.

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Didn't Fedorov say this was his first ankle problem of his entire career? His ankle's aren't like Forsberg's.
I must have missed that. Still, wasn't he out 3 seperate times because of his ankle?

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I must have missed that. Still, wasn't he out 3 seperate times because of his ankle?
Yep, but that doesn't mean he has bad ankle's. It just means it wasn't 100% yet. Ankle sprain are really tricky, and it was Feds first ankle injury so he didn't know if it was completley ready yet.

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Laich is fine at center but I'd want a 2nd right hander for better faceoff balance if we are moving Nylander. Our organizational center depth seems lacking.

Nyls and Feds will be gone before too long. That leaves Backis Gus and Laich, who may be better at wing.

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I think our only hope of getting rid of Nylander is to find a team that is rebuilding and has cap space they are willing to spend. That way we can move Nylander and a prospect in a package for another player with a salary.

For example, Nylander and Shultz to Toronto for Kubina. Not saying that will happen, just an example of what I am talking about.
The idea that I like is a Columbus team that probably falls short this year, lacking a veteran top-six pivot, looks to reach the next level for next season. I think Nylander could look attractive to Howson.

Really, Nylander is simply buried and a poor fit for the Caps' system. In Hitchcock's deliberate system, and without a lot of centers above him, Nylander could thrive. Nylander and Brassard down the middle, Filatov, Voracek, Huselius, Nash and Modin on the wings.

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Correct. 1 year @ $3.0 million. 2/3 of that is $2.0 million, which, spread out over two years is a cap hit of $1.0 million.
I don't believe it is that simple. I think the overall cap hit is still a factor in determining the buyout figure. I think it would work out to more than $1M each year for the final season buyout.

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