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01-20-2009, 10:14 AM
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What are you talking about he is going for career high points this season with current pace.
Antropov is goalless in his last FOURTEEN games. He's a UFA at end of season. He is on pace for 23 goals and is -11.Simply put, he's cold as ice.

He plays pretty tough, but he's slow. If someone gives up a 1st for this guy, they should be fired.

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01-20-2009, 10:21 AM
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If Noke is the main piece in getting Antropov back I would kiss the ground Chiarelli walks on.
I actually would kiss it if when can get something for Noke at this point. I don't care what it is, just get rid of him.

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01-20-2009, 10:23 AM
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Antropov is goalless in his last FOURTEEN games. He's a UFA at end of season. He is on pace for 23 goals and is -11.Simply put, he's cold as ice.

He plays pretty tough, but he's slow. If someone gives up a 1st for this guy, they should be fired.
I wouldn't be suprised if the Leafs get a late 1st round draft pick for Antropov.

Don't forget two years ago Phoenix got a 1st round draft pick from Dallas for Ladislav Nagy.

I know from a Canucks point of view I'd love to get Antropov for a 2nd round draft pick and a mid level prospect but I wouldn't trade our 1st round draft pick for him unless it was part of a bigger package for Antropov and Kaberle.

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01-20-2009, 10:54 AM
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Antropov is goalless in his last FOURTEEN games. He's a UFA at end of season. He is on pace for 23 goals and is -11.Simply put, he's cold as ice.

He plays pretty tough, but he's slow. If someone gives up a 1st for this guy, they should be fired.
Struggling goalwise, yes, but i said he is going for career high points. To me thats still career high season and 23 goals isnt that bad.

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01-20-2009, 10:56 AM
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Struggling goalwise, yes, but i said he is going for career high points. To me thats still career high season and 23 goals isnt that bad.
OK- he has SIX points in those 14 games. He's a rental who's as cold as ice.

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01-20-2009, 11:03 AM
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OK- he has SIX points in those 14 games. He's a rental who's as cold as ice.
He plays on a terrible team. He has no help at all.

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01-20-2009, 11:05 AM
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OK- he has SIX points in those 14 games. He's a rental who's as cold as ice.
On a team thats also as cold as ice. He was extremely productive before this cold streak, thats why he's still on pace for career highs. Everybody knows Antropov has value if they watch the leafs, its not really a hard thing to notice. You can debate what he's worth, but big men like him who can score aren't exactly a dime a dozen.

I don't get the hate for Nokelainen, at least he's a body coming back, and he's shown at least a little scoring potential in his career. Maybe Wilson can motivate him and get him playing something other than a fourth line role. Most importantly he's young, so as a throw-in it's not too bad. I'd expect a first as well, remember that Burke likes to make a splash at the draft, so he probably wants some picks that he can spend to move and get the player he wants. More firsts only helps in doing that.

I saw Antropov as getting a first and prospect, so thats not too far off value.

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01-20-2009, 11:30 AM
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OK- he has SIX points in those 14 games. He's a rental who's as cold as ice.
I dont think that ice-cold streak will continue much longer.

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01-20-2009, 12:44 PM
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I actually would kiss it if when can get something for Noke at this point. I don't care what it is, just get rid of him.
why?

not that hes gonna be a difference maker, but he he's a great 3rd-4th liner.


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01-20-2009, 01:19 PM
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In other words, the other dude is still right.
Well, it's kind of hard for that to have been wrong, considering Sundin was captain throughout all of Antro's career, until this season...

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He plays on a terrible team. He has no help at all.
I have been wodering this for a while. I keep seeing how much each leaf is SUPPOSED to be worth. If they are all so good to be worth this much why are the Leafs so bad?

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When I see Antropov I see a player TO fans have been trying to trade for years. I also see a player with no history of history of winning on his resume. He is not a player known for production at crunch time or playoffs. Not really what the Bruins want right now.

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I have been wodering this for a while. I keep seeing how much each leaf is SUPPOSED to be worth. If they are all so good to be worth this much why are the Leafs so bad?
Each leaf of the 3-4 that will be traded. The leafs have some of the best players available at the deadline, but that has nothing to do with team success. There's a lot of young players, and they go through hot and cold streaks. I mean, its not as if the Leafs started the season expecting to be cup contenders.

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01-20-2009, 01:49 PM
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If that draft pick was a first rounder then I'd do it.
I'm sure that you would. Realistically you can't expect any team in the NHL to give up a 1st round pick for Antropov though. If you do then you really need to take those homer glasses off for awhile and get some sort of reality check.

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I'm sure that you would. Realistically you can't expect any team in the NHL to give up a 1st round pick for Antropov though. If you do then you really need to take those homer glasses off for awhile and get some sort of reality check.
He'll get a first rounder easily.

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01-20-2009, 02:01 PM
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He'll get a first rounder easily.
I really don't think that is realistic return for a guy who's career high is 56 points and who has put up 5 points in 28 career playoff games. Don't get me wrong - I actually think that Antropov is a very good player but just not worth a 1st round pick. If Boston can get him for one very good or two good prospects and a 2nd rounder then I would be OK with that trade but if they throw in their 1st round pick ( regardless of where that pick ends up ) then I would be pretty mad about it. Of course if he ends up being the missing piece to the puzzle and helps lead Boston to a Stanley Cup victory then I guess that I could learn to live without a 1st round pick next year.

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I wonder if maybe you're valuing Boston's first a bit more than I am this year then. I'd take a very good prospect and a second over Boston's first, assuming a "very good" prospect would be somebody like Sobotka or Karsums.

Edit: Should clarify, I still think Antropov can get more than that at the deadline, just comparing value to the first.


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Should clarify, I still think Antropov can get more than that at the deadline, just comparing value to the first.

Oh absolutely - unless somebody comes up with an unbelievable offer then Burke should definately wait until the deadline. That is when GMs tend to make reactionary trades and grossly overpay for what they feel they need to make a playoff run or just to make the playoffs and save their job.

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Antropov is not overrated. Its just that Nokelainen is crap.
Sorry,I beg to differ. Noke isn't "crap" and has played well for the B's. He's was here in the beginning of the renaisance for the Bruin's and
shows some flashes of being a very useful player in any position that they put him in. He's a good tough kid. Atropov may not be overrated but...he's not a star either.

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I like this trade...Antropov for Noke and a 1st and I'm sold.
I would even consider Noke + 2nd + 3rd instead of the 1st.
If T.O. wanted to keep Antropov they would've re-signed him by now especially now that he's in a cold streak.
Antropov is as good as gone.

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Antropov is goalless in his last FOURTEEN games. He's a UFA at end of season. He is on pace for 23 goals and is -11.Simply put, he's cold as ice.

He plays pretty tough, but he's slow. If someone gives up a 1st for this guy, they should be fired.
Because trading a first round pick for a UFA at the deadline doesn't happen?

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Antropov is goalless in his last FOURTEEN games. He's a UFA at end of season. He is on pace for 23 goals and is -11.Simply put, he's cold as ice.

He plays pretty tough, but he's slow.
Well if it's any consolation, it isn't a 14 game pointless streak. Antropov is playing like someone who knows he's going to get traded.
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If someone gives up a 1st for this guy, they should be fired.
I'm sure that's how a lot of Blues fans felt after the Stempniak trade. Look how that turned out. Maple Leafs turn to gold when they leave town, funny how that works.

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Sorry,I beg to differ. Noke isn't "crap" and has played well for the B's. He's was here in the beginning of the renaisance for the Bruin's and
shows some flashes of being a very useful player in any position that they put him in. He's a good tough kid. Atropov may not be overrated but...he's not a star either.
I don't know anything about "Noke" but I do know he has 1 assist in 28 games for the high scoring Bruins, and 10 points in 57 games the previous season. Now statistically speaking, that is as "crap" as it gets.

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I really don't think that is realistic return for a guy who's career high is 56 points and who has put up 5 points in 28 career playoff games. Don't get me wrong - I actually think that Antropov is a very good player but just not worth a 1st round pick. If Boston can get him for one very good or two good prospects and a 2nd rounder then I would be OK with that trade but if they throw in their 1st round pick ( regardless of where that pick ends up ) then I would be pretty mad about it. Of course if he ends up being the missing piece to the puzzle and helps lead Boston to a Stanley Cup victory then I guess that I could learn to live without a 1st round pick next year.
Well, I know Gill got a 2nd, so...

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Well, I know Gill got a 2nd, so...
Yea, so Kubina is worth a 3rd or 4th at most.

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