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04-23-2012, 08:16 AM
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Stop it right there! Outside of the overused cliches, I don't think Davidge is that bad comparatively. Natalie is not bad either. The problem is Rimer brings the entire broadcast team down.
If he couldn't use overused cliches Davidge would be dead air. He's the worst color commentator we've ever had, Right Now.

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If he couldn't use overused cliches Davidge would be dead air. He's the worst color commentator we've ever had, Right Now.
Not a BD fan, but this is garbage. He does know something about hockey and you see it from time to time.

At far as "worst", that a matter of personal preference. Gare came of as a complete moron on more than one occasion, even if he came off as likable (and from what I heard he is very likable).

Trust me, I'm not defending BD (it took forever for him to realize that we were calling time outs to rest players on an icing), but let's not go overboard here.


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This is a message board so disagreements are the norm. We had what, 3 or 4 color commentators? I've heard them all and I don't consider any of them good. To me BD is the worst of the lot. Right Now.

BTW, knowing something about hockey is a qualification for the job but not the only one.

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We dodged a break right here. Having some new announcers would have been refreshing. It would be nice to have some that could add to a broadcast.

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This is a message board so disagreements are the norm. We had what, 3 or 4 color commentators? I've heard them all and I don't consider any of them good. To me BD is the worst of the lot. Right Now.

BTW, knowing something about hockey is a qualification for the job but not the only one.
Brian Engblom was the only good color guy the Jackets have had.

I am disappointed that there is not going to be a change. At this point I don't ever care if they are replaced with someone better, I just want something different.

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I stand corrected. Engblom was pretty good.

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This is a message board so disagreements are the norm. We had what, 3 or 4 color commentators? I've heard them all and I don't consider any of them good. To me BD is the worst of the lot. Right Now.
I was more commenting on the first "dead air" part. Probably should have been obvious since I said something as subjective as "good" or "bad" is a matter of opinion.

Of the BD/Rimer duo, Rimer is far worse - IMHO.

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I'd be happy to have him back. He's not the problem and they could do a helluva lot worse (and they've proven as much). Card tricks, anyone?
Well he's not the solution that's pretty clear!
From his grating tone of voice to the overdone hokieness, he impacts my arena experience negatively.
Would love to see him canned. His schtick is not at all entertaining and reeks of the unsophisticated country bumpkin image outsiders have of Cbus.
I've been to many other arenas and none of the arena hosts are as bad. If the quality of the entertainment at the arena is lame (outside of the teams performance) how does Todd escape all blame for that?
Please don't let him near the mike for the ASG. National stage and Gomer Pyle is our MC? Ugh.

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I really like BD outside of the booth. In various times talking to the man, or listening to him talk, it's clear he understands hockey rather well. Unfortunately, none, or very little, of this translates to the broadcast.

For that matter, Rimer is a nice enough guy, and has given a lot to this organization over the years.

I guess I'm just ready to move on to a more sophisticated broadcast. One that explains what we're seeing without a need to describe every move on the ice. Analysis of game objectives without reciting canned phrases that don't mean anything. Analysis of the good and bad at a deeper level than "it doesn't get any better than that" or "he has to do better"

Hearing Davidge, it's almost like he's being held back, honestly. The guy is not the dork he appears to be when the mic is turned on.

Matthews and McGelligott (sp?) are both fine enough. Matthews is actually a blast to listen to...whether or not he's really describing everyhting in perfect detail on radio is secondary to me. I like the way he does it. McGelligott is knowledgeable and doesn't seem overly afraid of calling guys out.

Having GCL really exacerbates the TV issue for me. I love the San Jose guys, as well as Vancouver and Philly. They're homers, like all of them, but they are simply at another level when it comes to quality of the broadcast.

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McGelligott is knowledgeable and doesn't seem overly afraid of calling guys out.
Out of all of them, he is the guy I like to listen to the most. George is a bit of an icon and a great guy, but it really gets on my nerves when I have no idea what is going on, on the ice.

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I really like BD outside of the booth. In various times talking to the man, or listening to him talk, it's clear he understands hockey rather well. Unfortunately, none, or very little, of this translates to the broadcast.

For that matter, Rimer is a nice enough guy, and has given a lot to this organization over the years.

I guess I'm just ready to move on to a more sophisticated broadcast. One that explains what we're seeing without a need to describe every move on the ice. Analysis of game objectives without reciting canned phrases that don't mean anything. Analysis of the good and bad at a deeper level than "it doesn't get any better than that" or "he has to do better"

Hearing Davidge, it's almost like he's being held back, honestly. The guy is not the dork he appears to be when the mic is turned on.

Matthews and McGelligott (sp?) are both fine enough. Matthews is actually a blast to listen to...whether or not he's really describing everyhting in perfect detail on radio is secondary to me. I like the way he does it. McGelligott is knowledgeable and doesn't seem overly afraid of calling guys out.

Having GCL really exacerbates the TV issue for me. I love the San Jose guys, as well as Vancouver and Philly. They're homers, like all of them, but they are simply at another level when it comes to quality of the broadcast.
Davidge is probably in the same situation as Danny Gare. Common denominator is...?



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Stop it right there! Outside of the overused cliches, I don't think Davidge is that bad comparatively. Natalie is not bad either. The problem is Rimer brings the entire broadcast team down.
Compared to what or who? He may be knowledgeable about hockey but he does a p-poor job of translating that to his dialogue. of course if he is being censored it would be hard to say "that guy just sucked on that play".

I agree with whoever said this is the first of what will probably be many front office bad decisions over the course of the off-season.

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Compared to what or who? He may be knowledgeable about hockey but he does a p-poor job of translating that to his dialogue. of course if he is being censored it would be hard to say "that guy just sucked on that play".

I agree with whoever said this is the first of what will probably be many front office bad decisions over the course of the off-season.
I watch a LOT of other team's broadcasts. Davidge is neither the best nor the worst of the color commentators. And having just a mediocre PBP guy would make him better.

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I went to the ASG logo unveiling, and I stood near the camera platform. Natalie was standing on the platform during the event, so I got a good look at her up close in person. With her hair down, and not wearing houndstooth clothing, she is an attractive woman. But she had huge, ugly sunglasses on. She should lose those, also.

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I went to the ASG logo unveiling, and I stood near the camera platform. Natalie was standing on the platform during the event, so I got a good look at her up close in person. With her hair down, and not wearing houndstooth clothing, she is an attractive woman. But she had huge, ugly sunglasses on. She should lose those, also.
So what you're saying is Natalie has no fashion sense.

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I went to the ASG logo unveiling, and I stood near the camera platform. Natalie was standing on the platform during the event, so I got a good look at her up close in person. With her hair down, and not wearing houndstooth clothing, she is an attractive woman. But she had huge, ugly sunglasses on. She should lose those, also.
Funny how we care about her looks and not the guys'.

Re: Davidge cliches...
How many creative ways can you describe bad hockey without telling the truth?
Bill and Jeff are masters of not saying what we're all thinking, -because they'd lose their jobs.

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I guess I'm just ready to move on to a more sophisticated broadcast. One that explains what we're seeing without a need to describe every move on the ice. Analysis of game objectives without reciting canned phrases that don't mean anything. Analysis of the good and bad at a deeper level than "it doesn't get any better than that" or "he has to do better"
Totally agree with this.

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Matthews is actually a blast to listen to...whether or not he's really describing everyhting in perfect detail on radio is secondary to me.
But not this. Describing the action, since it's a radio broadcast, should be the first thing.

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Funny how we care about her looks and not the guys'.
Not her looks, her brain, it works.

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Not her looks, her brain, it works.
I agree! I think she is a refreshing change from what we had, she does a good job, if she makes a mistake, so what, who doesn't!? As far as her looks go I think she gorgeous, definitely pleasing to look at! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

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Dug this thread up for a ranking of all 30 broadcast teams by Travis Yost on HockeyBuzz. Here's his take on our boys (Please note the ranking - #12!):

(12) Columbus -- Jeff Rimer and Bill Davidge

First, full marks to Rimer and Davidge for working through another disastrous Columbus Blue Jackets season. From game one to game eighty-two, their collective call didn't suffer, even if the team was a complete sideshow and circus.

Rimer's style is a far cry from the usual quick-hitting we see from play-by-play men these days. He's more laid-back and talking rather than screaming; it works beautifully.

I'm surprised Davidge has kept his job for so long -- he's actually quite objective in his analysis, so much so he's regularly beating up the Blue Jackets for their inconsistent and oft-shoddy play. The front office -- a mockery by any measurement -- actually deserves some credit for employing a voice that's willing to keep it real.



Here's the link for the complete list:

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Funny how we care about her looks and not the guys'.

Re: Davidge cliches...
How many creative ways can you describe bad hockey without telling the truth?
Bill and Jeff are masters of not saying what we're all thinking, -because they'd lose their jobs.
Rimer is a 2. David is a dashing older man: 7.

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Dug this thread up for a ranking of all 30 broadcast teams by Travis Yost on HockeyBuzz. Here's his take on our boys (Please note the ranking - #12!):

(12) Columbus -- Jeff Rimer and Bill Davidge

First, full marks to Rimer and Davidge for working through another disastrous Columbus Blue Jackets season. From game one to game eighty-two, their collective call didn't suffer, even if the team was a complete sideshow and circus.

Rimer's style is a far cry from the usual quick-hitting we see from play-by-play men these days. He's more laid-back and talking rather than screaming; it works beautifully.

I'm surprised Davidge has kept his job for so long -- he's actually quite objective in his analysis, so much so he's regularly beating up the Blue Jackets for their inconsistent and oft-shoddy play. The front office -- a mockery by any measurement -- actually deserves some credit for employing a voice that's willing to keep it real.



Here's the link for the complete list:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Travi...eams/134/46296
(Looks at bottom five)

Yup, that's a good list.

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I'd say ours is about #20. With a better PBP man and the freedom to be truly objective (ala Marty Brennaman), we could be about #10. My problem is I don't trust what FS Ohio is telling me about the CBJ - and that's not FS Ohio's doing. Everyone knows we suck. Quit blowing smoke us our arses. Tell us the truth and let's get on with fixing it.


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I'd say ours is about #20. With a better PBP man and the freedom to be truly objective (ala Marty Brennaman), we could be about #10. My problem is I don't trust what FS Ohio is telling me about the CBJ - and that's not FS Ohio's doing. Everyone knows we suck. Quit blowing smoke us our arses. Tell us the truth and let's get on with fixing it.
They already freaking do. If they did so to the degree that seems to be demanded here, the broadcast would become completely unwatchable. It sounds like folks are less after entertainment and more after hearing the equivalent of an angry coach's screams so that their feelings about what's happening on the ice can be validated.

Personally, I prefer being, y'know, entertained.

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They already freaking do.
How many people here actually believe this?


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And I prefer WINNING. Nothing is more entertaining than watching your team win.


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