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02-11-2009, 04:32 PM
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we'd have to add quite a bit to that.. Clemmensen has played great as a starting goaltender this season and Oduya is one of their top defenceman.

can't see it happening..
haha, that was what the question mark was for..

maybe pandolfo..

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haha, that was what the question mark was for..

maybe pandolfo..
yikes, I don't want pandolfo

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02-11-2009, 04:56 PM
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Is Randy McKay still around?

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What about a package with New Jersey..?

Maybe to us Clemmensen and Oduya

For Lundqvist and ???

clemmensen would be a more than servicable back up and with Broduer returning soon, New Jersey can use weekes as their back up and get some return for Clemm, I threw Oduya in because hes a solid defenseman..

what that be something that suits Dallas.?
Oduya is their Robidas.

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Well, you can take Schneider off the table, thankfully.

At the cost the Habs ended up paying that would've been nothing short of a disaster.

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Agreed, the only players I would have traded for Schneider are Barch, Conner or McGann.

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* The NY Rangers...Hmmm. Tough times in NY, but again an example of the subtle difference between being VERY good and VERY bad. The Rangers should be adding Mr. Avery soon and I hear it is possible that the Stars will be taking a fairly high-priced d-man off of their hands to do so. Then add maybe another leader aka Tkachuk or Guerin and as bad as it feels right now with Lunqvist it is never terrible.
Redden to Dallas.....****ING HELL IF THIS IS TRUE!


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* The NY Rangers...Hmmm. Tough times in NY, but again an example of the subtle difference between being VERY good and VERY bad. The Rangers should be adding Mr. Avery soon and I hear it is possible that the Stars will be taking a fairly high-priced d-man off of their hands to do so. Then add maybe another leader aka Tkachuk or Guerin and as bad as it feels right now with Lunqvist it is never terrible.

Redden to Dallas.....****ING HELL IF THIS IS TRUE!
Please. Jackson would have to be braindead to take on Redden's contract. Especially due to the fact there might be a #1 on the market over the summer.

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I don't want Redden or Rozsival and to bringing in either tkachuk or bringing Guerin back lol

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Garbage in, garbage out.

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Didn't Jackson want to sign Redden this past summer? Wow, Richards' and Redden's contracts.

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I'd rather have Rozsival than Redden.

Getting Redden would be a bad move now and an even badder move in the future.

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Why is anyone taking that crap seriously? Some people never seem to learn the person in question is so full of ____ he's been declared a bio-hazard.

Avery would have to clear re-entry waivers for any actual trade to take place, unless the Rangers felt just fine with keeping Avery in the minors the rest of the season, which is highly, highly unlikely if they see a benefit to adding him. Or are we to assume the Rangers feel they are already out of the playoff hunt even though they are currently sixth in the East?

Garbage in, garbage out.

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I don't want Redden or Rozsival and to bringing in either tkachuk or bringing Guerin back lol

I think they were talking about NY...

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I'd take Rozsival. Redden shouldn't be touched with a ten foot poll unless NY 1st and their best prospect Bobby Sanguinetti came too. And even then I'd probably still baulk at Redden's ridiculous contract.

Rozsival is not a bad defenseman and his contract expires next year. Pairing him up with Robidas and finally benching Sydor wouldn't be bad. They could then trade him or someone else this off season to make room for a free agent like Nick Boynton.

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I'd take Rozsival. Redden shouldn't be touched with a ten foot poll unless NY 1st and their best prospect Bobby Sanguinetti came too. And even then I'd probably still baulk at Redden's ridiculous contract.

Rozsival is not a bad defenseman and his contract expires next year. Pairing him up with Robidas and finally benching Sydor wouldn't be bad. They could then trade him or someone else this off season to make room for a free agent like Nick Boynton.
Not going to happen this season. If they haven't done it yet, then I seriously doubt it'll happen at all.

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Avery would have to clear re-entry waivers for any actual trade to take place
This is true, but he's going to have to clear re-entry even if he's not traded. At least nobody below the Rangers making a claim. Do you think anyone else besides the Rangers would be willing to take a gamble on an Avery re-entry claim? I don't see it right now.

Ignoring the source, it is an interesting discussion. I'd rather buy-out Avery than take Redden's contract. If NY has to move money, I wouldn't mind the team taking Rozsival. If NY takes all of Avery's contract it would be worth it. I'd even be willing to add something to the deal to make it go through (within reason). If it's a condition of them taking Avery on re-entry waivers I would say no thanks and just buy him out this summer.

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Rozsival is signed through 2012.

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Rozsival is not a bad defenseman and his contract expires next year.
Rozsival is in the first year of a four year contract. $5M cap hit per year.

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Rozsival is signed through 2012.
Oh, where did I get next year from? Well in that case if NY is taking Avery off re-entry for half the salary then I want a draft pick/prospect, in addition to Rozsival as compensation, back from NY. Otherwise just let him go and NY can figure out their own money situation.

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I think they were talking about NY...
oh okay I didn't bother clicking the link, I don't care for anything at hockeybuzz

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This is true, but he's going to have to clear re-entry even if he's not traded. At least nobody below the Rangers making a claim. Do you think anyone else besides the Rangers would be willing to take a gamble on an Avery re-entry claim? I don't see it right now.

Ignoring the source, it is an interesting discussion. I'd rather buy-out Avery than take Redden's contract. If NY has to move money, I wouldn't mind the team taking Rozsival. If NY takes all of Avery's contract it would be worth it. I'd even be willing to add something to the deal to make it go through (within reason). If it's a condition of them taking Avery on re-entry waivers I would say no thanks and just buy him out this summer.
Ask yourself why New York would give up an asset for a player they'll get without giving up one? Further, why would NY even risk giving up an asset when there's a chance, no matter how small it might be, another team ends up claiming Avery off re-entry, thus, once again, giving up an asset for free?

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Ask yourself why New York would give up an asset for a player they'll get without giving up one? Further, why would NY even risk giving up an asset when there's a chance, no matter how small it might be, another team ends up claiming Avery off re-entry, thus, once again, giving up an asset for free?
Why give up an asset? To gain cap space. $5M in cap space is pretty valuable. It's the only reason they have for doing something like this. I don't think it's likely. I just thought the possibilities were interesting.

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The Rangers stuck Kasparaitis in the minors to gain cap space while eating his salary. I would find it hard to believe they wouldn't do the same again if they felt the need.

The difference though is Kasparaitis was still an asset the team held. In this scenario, they'd just be giving up an asset.

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Someone on the trade board had an idea. Would you be willing to take Redden on re-entry waivers just like Avery. I would still want a pick or a prospect from NY but Redden on re-entry isn't nearly as bad as eating the whole 6.5 million.

Getting out of the fish bowl of NY and playing with a good defensive defense guy like Grossman would probably really help his game.

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