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01-23-2009, 03:55 PM
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OT: Canucks Complain About Travel Schedule

Just saw this on TSN. Seems the Canucks are blaming the travel schedule for going 2-8 in January.

I know that travel is a huge issue for teams in the west and needs to be addressed, but really, could their schedule be that much worse than Edmonton's?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2643...headlines_main

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01-23-2009, 03:59 PM
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LOL!!!
I don't think we're complaining bout our sched. Gillis is just advising the scheduling committee on how the schedule can be improved.

we are home most of January.

Get your damn facts straight.

the biggest problem in travel this year
was
Nov. 19th vs Rangers @ New York
Nov. 20th vs Wild @ Minnesota
Nov. 22th vs Penguins @ Pittsburgh

Thats going back and forth....
and 11 of 13 on the road between Nov. 17th and Dec 13th. With a home game on the 14th....so no time to rest after long road trip.

Later we will have a 7 of 8 away with one home game....so its like a 8 game road trip between Feb 10th to Feb 24th. (8 games in 14 days)
And another 7 of 8 away with one home game between Mar. 21st and Apr. 4th. (Another 8 games in 14 days)

If your sched is that bad....then get Tambellini to advise the committee as well.


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01-23-2009, 04:00 PM
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what a bunch of whiners....

their record couldn't have anything to do with their team at all now could it?

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I know we all like to find reasons to hate Vancouver, but I really don't mind this if they have the proof to back it up, which it seems like they do.

That being said, travel will always be an issue with 30 teams spread all over the continent, so I don't know how much can be done to even out the amount of travel for teams on the coasts.

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Maybe they should blame some of it on the great signing of Sundin, 7gp 3 pts! Or how about the fact that they were without their best player for quite some time.

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LOL!!!
I don't think we're complaining bout our sched.

we are home most of January.

Get your damn facts straight.

the biggest problem in travel this year
was
Nov. 19th vs Rangers @ New York
Nov. 20th vs Wild @ Minnesota
Nov. 22th vs Penguins @ Pittsburgh

Thats going back and forth....
well according the the article

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The Canucks are 2-8 in January and have lost six straight. The team believes the slide is due to their travel demands and the NHL seems to agree.

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they do have the worst travel schedule in the league but its barely worse than ours

and they were playing way better than anyone thought they would at the beginning of the year
now they are coming back down to earth

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LOL!!!
I don't think we're complaining bout our sched.

we are home most of January.

Get your damn facts straight.

the biggest problem in travel this year
was
Nov. 19th vs Rangers @ New York
Nov. 20th vs Wild @ Minnesota
Nov. 22th vs Penguins @ Pittsburgh

Thats going back and forth....
and 11 of 13 on the road between Nov. 17th and Dec 13th. With a home game on the 14th....so no time to rest after long road trip.
Are you sure?

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Just saw this on TSN. Seems the Canucks are blaming the travel schedule for going 2-8 in January.

I know that travel is a huge issue for teams in the west and needs to be addressed, but really, could their schedule be that much worse than Edmonton's?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2643...headlines_main
It is a pretty ridiculous argument considering they played 6 games at home, 1 in Edmonton and 1 in San Jose. The other 2 games were a short road trip through Nashville and Atlanta.

I guess only the Canucks can consider 6 of 10 at home a bad schedule for the month.

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Oiler fans arent telling Vancouver fans to suck it up now are we??? Arent we the ones that complained about the schedule at the start of the season. Thats all I heard on these boards for the first 25 games.

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Are you sure?
ya I'm pretty sure.
Don't look at it from a rival's perspective.
Its not complaining.

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well according the the article
thats what the article said.
But they only mentioned that segment (Jan 1st to 4th) of the sched.

There are many more points to provide evidence that this year's sched is quite bad for the Cnaucks....and I just edited my post to show it.

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Oiler fans arent telling Vancouver fans to suck it up now are we??? Arent we the ones that complained about the schedule at the start of the season. Thats all I heard on these boards for the first 25 games.
And if Vancouver was complaining about the first 25 games of their schedule I could understand the argument... but they aren't.

It would be like the Oilers complaining about their January schedule... there is nothing to support it.

Especially when Gillis lists some crap about a test that showed they'd run into trouble after the Atlanta and Nashville games.... why would they? They came off the Christmas break as well as a 3 game home trip right after the break.

The reasoning is way off.

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It is a pretty ridiculous argument considering they played 6 games at home, 1 in Edmonton and 1 in San Jose. The other 2 games were a short road trip through Nashville and Atlanta.

I guess only the Canucks can consider 6 of 10 at home a bad schedule for the month.
The complaint wasn't about the January games. It was about the Canucks schedule in late November and December that led to them being so fatigued come January.

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Complaining about refereeing or the league being against them never worked very well..

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That's poor paraphrasing by TSN. That wasn't really implied as strongly as TSN states it. But don't let that get in the way.

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The complaint wasn't about the January games. It was about the Canucks schedule in late November and December that led to them being so fatigued come January.
That December Schedule saw them at home for 2.5 weeks and play 7 of 8 home games (with a trip to San Jose in the middle).

Being at home that long should let you recover from the road trip that preceeded it.

Like I said, if this argument was laid out in the middle of December, I'd understand it.... but not now.

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And if Vancouver was complaining about the first 25 games of their schedule I could understand the argument... but they aren't.

It would be like the Oilers complaining about their January schedule... there is nothing to support it.

Especially when Gillis lists some crap about a test that showed they'd run into trouble after the Atlanta and Nashville games.... why would they? They came off the Christmas break as well as a 3 game home trip right after the break.

The reasoning is way off.
Ok that point is taken. I see what you mean now.

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Like I said, if this argument was laid out in the middle of December, I'd understand it.... but not now.
Gillis has been meeting with Bettman for months about this. It's not like they came up with the complaint after they went on a skid.

IIRC, he first me up with Bettman in November when the Canucks were in New York to play the Rangers and he brought up the New York --> Minnesota --> Pittsburgh stretch they had to go through.

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That's poor paraphrasing by TSN. That wasn't really implied as strongly as TSN states it. But don't let that get in the way.
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"And it's not ironic, it happened when we played that three-game segment where we were in Nashville and then went to Atlanta (Jan 1st and 2nd), they predicted that after that we would have a serious fatigue issue because of the number of games we played in the previous ten days and that type of travel and they were bang-on,"
From the 21st until the 1st, the Canucks played 5 games... 4 at home and 1 in San Jose.

3 of those 4 home games happened over an 8 day span to end the month of December (24th-31st).

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Gillis has been meeting with Bettman for months about this. It's not like they came up with the complaint after they went on a skid.

IIRC, he first me up with Bettman in November when the Canucks were in New York to play the Rangers and he brought up the New York --> Minnesota --> Pittsburgh stretch they had to go through.
Has their schedule been any worse than the Oilers this year? The Oilers didn't get their first home stand of 3 or more games until the middle of December.

By that time Vancouver had a 6 game one and was working on a 4 game one.

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Edmonton travels around 3000 miles less than the Canucks, not a big difference and our schedule to start the year was way more brutal than anything they have had to endure.

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From the 21st until the 1st, the Canucks played 5 games... 4 at home and 1 in San Jose.

3 of those 4 home games happened over an 8 day span to end the month of December (24th-31st).
I think what Gillis said is

"because of the number of games we played in the previous ten days and that type of travel and they were bang-on"

So meaning that playing 6 games in 10 days than going on to travel to Nashville than Atlanta than fly all the way back to play in Vancouver to play their 3 rd game in 4 nights.

I think he might have a point. Thats alot of games and alot of travel in 2 weeks. Would you not agree?

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Edmonton travels around 3000 miles less than the Canucks, not a big difference and our schedule to start the year was way more brutal than anything they have had to endure.
Actually their schedule was the 2 nd hardest in the NHL for the first 20 games too. Not too far behind ours at all actually.

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Here was the Oilers 7 game road trip earlier this season. Bold is back to back.

@ Nashville
@ Raleigh
@ Philadelphia

@ Columbus
@ Pittsburgh

@ New Jersey
@ New York


3 back to backs on a road trip?

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