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01-26-2009, 12:49 PM
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I'd get a better video card if I was planning on editing videos

all in all I'd maybe pay $400 for that setup....maybe 550 considering the monitor

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I don't do video editing... so Rattlehead might have some much better suggestions for you on that end.

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I ended up selecting

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....rd105700050014


Probably could have spent less on something else, but I'm pretty sure this is going to suit my needs..


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I did a little looking at www.newegg.com and found http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883229042

Not that that's necessarily the system for you, but I like it better than the other one. Note: you would need to buy a monitor separate, and it doesn't come with a printer and all the software the other one did. Printers are cheap - and the software, you probably don't need everything the other one came with, and you can often find free equivalents that will work just as well, plus use what you already have for software.

It's a dual core instead of a quad core, but it's got a pretty good clock speed. I'm not terribly familiar with Nvidia video cards, my system's got an ATI - but that should be a decent card, and if you got into gaming heavier than you expect, this system will actually let you use two video cards together - they have to be identical Nvidia cards though.

A 600 watt power supply gives you room for expansion and upgrading. The case is a bit more gaudy - which could either be a pro or a con depending on your own personal feelings.

IF you ever get into overclocking, that motherboard is decent, and will be much better for the job than the other system's motherboard.

Once again, not necessarily the system that's just perfect for you - but I personally would be much happier with it. Hopefully it gives you more of an indication of what's out there.
I agree with you Kestrel, definitely a better foundation to build around than the HP combo. He can pick up a 22 inch monitor separately for just under $200 or a bit above if he wants better quality. Printers are cheap, they get you on the ink later.

Aside from the 'gaudy' case (but there's no accounting for taste), that's the type of good bang-for-the-buck system one could recommend to anyone. On the Best Buy HP combo, they are throwing you quantity to replace quality.

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I ended up selecting

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....rd105700050014


Probably could have spent less on something else, but I'm pretty sure this is going to suit my needs..


thanks for the help!



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I hadn't seen your post when I wrote mine. At least you went with the better of the two HPs. Sometimes it's worth it spending a bit more for a better PC and having fewer regrets later. I just saw a YouTube video with someone playing Crysis (a demanding game) with a comparable system and GeForce 9500 GS video, and it looked ok albeit at lower resolutions. So you should be ok. I wasn't impressed with the first HP, I guess you could tell. But we're all different, something I wouldn't care for might be just fine for someone else.

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I hadn't seen your post when I wrote mine. At least you went with the better of the two HPs. Sometimes it's worth it spending a bit more for a better PC and having fewer regrets later. I just saw a YouTube video with someone playing Crysis (a demanding game) with a comparable system and GeForce 9500 GS video, and it looked ok albeit at lower resolutions. So you should be ok. I wasn't impressed with the first HP, I guess you could tell. But we're all different, something I wouldn't care for might be just fine for someone else.


I don't know jack about computers.. BUT.. this comp seems pretty good.. Maybe not as brilliant as some of the other computers you guys build yourselves... I should get by though....


If i really wanted to play crysis (which i probably never will), what would it take to make this computer play it in hi res??

A better video card? and an upgraded PSU?

I'm just curious!!


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I don't know jack about computers.. BUT.. this comp seems pretty good.. Maybe not as brilliant as some of the other computers you guys build yourselves... I should get by though....


If i really wanted to play crysis (which i probably never will), what would it take to make this computer play it in hi res??

A better video card? and an upgraded PSU?

I'm just curious!!


thanks
Without looking at the computer specs, you'll need a better graphics card first and foremost. But Crysis on Medium is still crazy.

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I don't know jack about computers.. BUT.. this comp seems pretty good.. Maybe not as brilliant as some of the other computers you guys build yourselves... I should get by though....


If i really wanted to play crysis (which i probably never will), what would it take to make this computer play it in hi res??

A better video card? and an upgraded PSU?

I'm just curious!!


thanks
Don't run out and buy Crysis. It's just a game that is very demanding on PCs and we use it as a standard to gauge a rig's performance. We aren't promoting the game itself as a must-have.

A PC can have bottlenecks in several areas that will affect performance. A video card is one pivotal area but not the only one. The PSU or power supply won't affect a PCs performance directly but one that is near the limit will just affect your ability to upgrade to faster, more performing parts that demand more power later. The engineers for a company like Dell or HP, will figure out exactly how much power your PC needs and give you a PSU that closely fits your needs for today. You're fine with that, unless you want to upgrade something later. Then if your PSU is at the max (say you're running around 290 watts on a 300 watt PSU, try to add a card that demands more power and you may also have to upgrade the PSU.

I think you'll be fine with the second HP for awhile. You'll play most new games, not at the highest setting, but you won't notice or care; it's like HD tv, you're fine watching a game on an older regular tv and are very happy for years unless you get used to watching HD at the neighbour's house and then you want that too. And games are up there as some of the most taxing type of software on a PC; word processing, surfing the net isn't. Playing most audio isn't either. And if you're just doing casual video or gaming, you will be fine too for a few years.

When you build your own rig, you can just pick and choose the best bang for the buck parts you want. And you can choose to spend more on those areas that mean something to you personally without having to pick up other extras that mean less to you. And we're all different. What's good for me might not be best for you.

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If you're just looking for something easy that will perform your standard operations, a PC from one of the big name brands is nice and convenient. I personally tend to steer away from them for a number of reasons, but I think you'll enjoy your computer.

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If i really wanted to play crysis (which i probably never will), what would it take to make this computer play it in hi res??
Don't even bother. It couldn't come close.


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I don't know jack about computers.. BUT.. this comp seems pretty good.. Maybe not as brilliant as some of the other computers you guys build yourselves... I should get by though....


If i really wanted to play crysis (which i probably never will), what would it take to make this computer play it in hi res??

A better video card? and an upgraded PSU?

I'm just curious!!


thanks
A whole other computer. Crysis takes the best computer hardware and brings them to their proverbial knees. No jokes.

The best video card coupled with the best CPUs are still brought down to sub 60FPS when the settings are maxed out on a resolution higher than 1680x1050 which is the probably most widespread widescreen resolution out right now.

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