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01-26-2009, 08:18 PM
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Andrews' State of Game Comments

First article I have seen regarding his State of the Game comments he makes as part of the All Star Game.

From PennLive.com, it quotes the Commish as saying that the game is down, but not as down as lot of other sectors. I suppose that is a good point. I am interested to hear what other comments he made.

I'll be stunned if he doesn't talk about fighting.

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some more here from the times union.

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And there we have. The talk about fighting. I really hope we don't have the same process we had the visors. A reactionary policy to freak accident that now requires visors.

If the AHL goes to misconduct penalties for taking off a helmet, combined with the mandatory visors, they might as well outlaw fighting. That is what they will essentially be doing.

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Lord David, from the T-U article:

"The question is why would you have a fight at the two second mark in the first period. Itís like a staged event in one way, in another way itís the nature of our league."

Its a question I've asked for years. You try to explain to someone that hockey's a contact sport and that a fight can happen in the heat of the game, and then two guys drop the gloves off a faceoff, and you can't begin to explain that. I've seen maybe one percent of these things have ANY impact on the contest. If the staged fights were to disappear, the game would survive (though some players wouldn't).

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More comments on fighting. This time sourced from the Sporting News

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"Is the AHL going to change fighting in hockey? I plan to talk to (NHL commissioner) Gary (Bettman), (NHL deputy commissioner) Bill Daly and (NHL executive) Colin Campbell and in March the GMs in the NHL will be discussing fighting. We're going to see what they do and follow their lead," Andrews said.

"Can you play without it? Obviously," he said. "There is no way you can say fighting has to be part of hockey. There are all sorts of great hockey games that don't have fights in them. I listened to the players in this debate and I haven't heard any take the position we should eliminate fighting from the game, even the skilled guys."
Well, this doesn't sound good. Since Lord David isn't going to make up his own mind on this (maybe that's a good thing), we'll have to hope the NHL doesn't adopt a bunch of silly rules regarding fighting.

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B-Sens echo Andrews' comments

Not sure where else to put this. The B-Sens majority owner, Tim Smith, seems to echo Andrews' comments with regards to the economy's impact on the AHL. According to Smith, the B-Sens are, "Off slightly."

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Across the board, from ticket sales to marketing to sponsorships, Smith said things are down less than 5 percent for the team, which he said is still doing the best of his seven business interests, which include the quarry, a trucking company and land ownership.
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This is in line with Andrews' statement that the AHL is off about 3.5% (also noted in the article.)

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Not sure where else to put this. The B-Sens majority owner, Tim Smith, seems to echo Andrews' comments with regards to the economy's impact on the AHL. According to Smith, the B-Sens are, "Off slightly."



This is in line with Andrews' statement that the AHL is off about 3.5% (also noted in the article.)
Funny he doesn't mention they have been "off" attendance wis every year since 00-01 and that even includes the 04-05 season.

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You can watch the entire address on AHL Live (for free)... http://www.ahllive.com/, click "Watch Archive" then "Dave Andrews - State of the AHL Address".

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Another State of the Game article. This one appears to be the most complete one I've seen so far. It discusses more of the potential franchise movement.

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Another full detail recap of the Comments. But this was interesting and I don't recall it previously...

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On an AHL outdoor game
Andrews wouldn't be surprised to see the league hold one in the next year or two, but no team has really gone after the idea whole-hog yet. "We've had a lot of teams dip their toe in the water," he said.
I wonder who has considered it?

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Another full detail recap of the Comments. But this was interesting and I don't recall it previously...

I wonder who has considered it?
FWIW:
http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/...-starry-night/

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* An outdoor game is still possible, perhaps in the next year or two. Rochester and Peoria have expressed an interest in having one, but nothing has gone beyond that.

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Another full detail recap of the Comments. But this was interesting and I don't recall it previously...



I wonder who has considered it?
I'm surprised that WB/S, Hershey and/or Manitoba haven't considered it.

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Any idea when the location for next year's ASG will be announced? I would expect this week based on timing last year, but just curious.

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You can watch the entire address on AHL Live (for free)... http://www.ahllive.com/, click "Watch Archive" then "Dave Andrews - State of the AHL Address".
This link will bring you right into the All star video player.
http://ahl.neulion.com/allstarlive/console.html

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I believe it has been considered by Hershey at one point. There's a stadium in the Hersheypark Complex that could be utilized for it. The cost, however, would be prohibitive, and the upside isn't NEARLY enough to make up for it.

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I believe it has been considered by Hershey at one point. There's a stadium in the Hersheypark Complex that could be utilized for it. The cost, however, would be prohibitive, and the upside isn't NEARLY enough to make up for it.
Would the cost be prohibitive? Doesn't the stadium hold about 30,000? At $20 per ticket that would be $600,000 in ticket sales alone.

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I don't think we'd get it, but Hamilton Ontario has already held on outdoor hockey game at Ivor Wynne Stadium.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2005/...ain050402.html

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I believe it has been considered by Hershey at one point. There's a stadium in the Hersheypark Complex that could be utilized for it. The cost, however, would be prohibitive, and the upside isn't NEARLY enough to make up for it.
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Would the cost be prohibitive? Doesn't the stadium hold about 30,000? At $20 per ticket that would be $600,000 in ticket sales alone.


It can hold 30,000 for concerts, but only 16,000 in the stands. Also, I believe the cost of laying down the surface and amenities is in the 7-figure range ( I saw that in some of the Wrigley Field stories ). I couldn't see how they could gain nearly as much in publicity to make up for it (we are still the minor leagues, after all).

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