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01-28-2009, 01:19 PM
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What team should go all in?

More specifically, which team should sacrifice a bit of the future to get a top player for the Cup?

I think Boston should go after Jay-Bo. A defense which would have either Chara or Bouw on the ice for practically every shift is scary. They also could afford to lose one of Kessel, Lucic, or Wheeler to make this trade happen. I think this would make a great team even better.

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01-28-2009, 01:23 PM
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I don't think they'd have to trade any of those guys for Bouwmeester.

I'd nominate Calgary for the "all-in" team, Kiprusoff isn't getting any younger.

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I think Vancouver should try. Signing Sundin, Sedins are ufa. Luongo is up after next year. They really dont have anyone signed long term. I think they should go for it all.

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I think Vancouver should try. Signing Sundin, Sedins are ufa. Luongo is up after next year. They really dont have anyone signed long term. I think they should go for it all.
Van seems like a good choice. What are their needs?

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I don't see the need to overpay for a rental such as Bouwmeester (who's team is in the middle of a playoff push) when we could just add someone like Schneider, who will only cost a mid round pick, and could produce some decent numbers in Boston.

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I don't think they'd have to trade any of those guys for Bouwmeester.

I'd nominate Calgary for the "all-in" team, Kiprusoff isn't getting any younger.
I don't want to turn this into a Bouw trade thread but who would they give up for him? JM would be a fool not to ask for something like that. We could potentially play them in the first round.

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01-28-2009, 01:27 PM
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I don't see the need to overpay for a rental such as Bouwmeester (who's team is in the middle of a playoff push) when we could just add someone like Schneider, who will only cost a mid round pick, and could produce some decent numbers in Boston.
The point of this thread is premised on the idea of probably overpaying.

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The point of this thread is premised on the idea of probably overpaying.
And now you'll have to tell me the point of Boston overpaying...

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And now you'll have to tell me the point of Boston overpaying...
To get an elite d-man who can eat up 28 minutes a game who will more than likely make more of an impact than one of the three I listed above. A player who can skate stride for stride with any forward and score some goals. He is horribly underrated.

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I don't think they'd have to trade any of those guys for Bouwmeester.

I'd nominate Calgary for the "all-in" team, Kiprusoff isn't getting any younger.
Yes, but we are not taking Kaberle or Antropov from TO!

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01-28-2009, 01:37 PM
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I'd say Montreal should go all in. Do whatever it takes to win a cup this year because its their 100th anniversary and imo they already have good team that can compete.

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More specifically, which team should sacrifice a bit of the future to get a top player for the Cup?

I think Boston should go after Jay-Bo. A defense which would have either Chara or Bouw on the ice for practically every shift is scary. They also could afford to lose one of Kessel, Lucic, or Wheeler to make this trade happen. I think this would make a great team even better.
I do not think Boston has to go all in this year though. The only major players they have to sign for next year are Kessell and krejci who are rfa's and some goalies, as Thomas and Fernandez are UFA's. Losing Shane Hnidy, PJ Axellson or Stephan Yelle will not affect them that much. They have 42 million committed next year, so they should be just barely able to sign those three. Giving up a large part of their future in kessell krejci or lucic would be a step in the wrong direction i think. They could definitely use a d man though, and the prospect pool is anything but bare. If they make a deal for a d man, I think they should move prospects or picks, no players

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I do not think Boston has to go all in this year though. The only major players they have to sign for next year are Kessell and krejci who are rfa's and some goalies, as Thomas and Fernandez are UFA's. Losing Shane Hnidy, PJ Axellson or Stephan Yelle will not affect them that much. They have 42 million committed next year, so they should be just barely able to sign those three. Giving up a large part of their future in kessell krejci or lucic would be a step in the wrong direction i think. They could definitely use a d man though, and the prospect pool is anything but bare. If they make a deal for a d man, I think they should move prospects or picks, no players
Fair enough. I still think if they had Bouw they would be the favorite to win it all.

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I'd say Montreal should go all in. Do whatever it takes to win a cup this year because its their 100th anniversary and imo they already have good team that can compete.
Ya, and with all their pending UFA's it makes sense to go for it now. Gainey i think is doing that, going for right now instead of the future, by trading a first and second for tanguay

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I think borderline playoff teams might need a bigger punch than teams like San Jose, Boston, Washington. I think those teams should add a piece here or there, but do it without changing what got them to where they are.

Maybe they add a veteran presence with playoff experience to help them out. A borderline playoff team might make an offer for a Jay Bo to ensure they make the playoffs.

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I think Vancouver should go for it all now. With the Sedins and Sundin being UFAs, Luongo's contract up after next season, this might be their year to go for it.

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Fair enough. I still think if they had Bouw they would be the favorite to win it all.
I think they are the favourites out of the East for sure right now. I think you move a prospect (Colborne???) and maybe additional picks/prospects, but do not take away from the core for a rental, look what happened to pittsburgh

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I think they are the favourites out of the East for sure right now. I think you move a prospect (Colborne???) and maybe additional picks/prospects, but do not take away from the core for a rental, look what happened to pittsburgh
Pitt has been battling injury issues and not having Gonchar has really hurt them. I know what you're saying but they only lost two roster players who played mostly third and second line roles. Hardly enough imo to be responsible for their performance so far.

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Excellent idea for a thread. Very orriginal. Kudos

I'd say...it's a toss between Montreal and Vancouver. Than Boston.

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Someone's really gonna have to explain to me why Boston shou;d go all in...

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Someone's really gonna have to explain to me why Boston shou;d go all in...
Because it will put them in a better position to win the cup.

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Someone's really gonna have to explain to me why Boston shou;d go all in...
cause this year is a fluke...lol JJ

C'mon, you all were thinking it...lol

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Van seems like a good choice. What are their needs?
A puck moving dman/PP QB and a RW for Sundin or the Sedins.

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I think they are the favourites out of the East for sure right now. I think you move a prospect (Colborne???) and maybe additional picks/prospects, but do not take away from the core for a rental, look what happened to pittsburgh


I want to see Colborne in a B's uniform. I would be more willing to move Hamil or Boychuk though.

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I would love to see Jay-Bo in Boston, but only at the cost of non-roster players. If the asking price is Lucic, Kessel, or Krejci I say: "Thanks, but no thanks".

I'm not sure if Florida wants to give him up either, I'm sure they want to make a playoff push, and want to resign him. IMO, he'll also resign there if they make the playoffs... Maybe they should add a top-6 forward.

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