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01-17-2009, 11:17 AM
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Need Help Scoring

I am a defenseman, but have been playing forward lately and have 0 goals. Any tips to help me put more in?

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Find the open spots on the ice, crash the net, screen the goalie and be ready for the tip, play your position well, work on receiving passes, work on your shot, remember that any shot is better than no shot. Also, I always held my stick up high whenever I played defense ... Make sure that tendency, if you have it, doesn't linger into your game as a forward when you get into a scoring position.

Can't give much more advice without knowing what type of offensive game you have. It'll come .. just keep working at it.

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I heard they give good advice for scoring over in the lounge.



But the key in my opinion is try to get open, move around, don't stand around waiting for a pass. Work for the puck and blah blah blah. All that cliche stuff.

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Go to bars. Wear nice clothes. Buy drinks. Talk to the ladies and act like yourself. Wear cologne. It might take a couple tries but eventually you'll find a girl, and you'll get to know her. Eventually you will start living with each other and than a couple years later, ask her hand in marriage. Than on your wedding night make sure you are clean downstairs. Than after your wedding reception you will take her to the hotel, strip naked, than strip her naked, and than you'll make love for 4 hours straight. It will be awesome...

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Go to the net hard and pick up the garbage.

Also keep in mind that you can't score goals if you don't shoot.

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I am a defenseman, but have been playing forward lately and have 0 goals. Any tips to help me put more in?
More than zero?

1. How's your shot, and are you putting enough power behind it?
2. How's your skating and are you getting scoring chances you just can't convert on?
3. Do you have the confidence of your linemates that they'll pass you the puck when you're in scoring position?
4. Are you picking a target before you shoot and do you look where you're shooting?

I'm in the same position -- a converted defenseman playing wing with no points on the season.

1. I play too conservative. I can't help playing like a defensive forward so I don't get into scoring position when we have the puck in the offensive zone.
2. I have a weak shot and can't consistently lift my wrist shots. I've got poor technique and don't take the time to draw the puck back before shooting.
3. I have different linemates every game.

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Go to bars. Wear nice clothes. Buy drinks. Talk to the ladies and act like yourself. Wear cologne. It might take a couple tries but eventually you'll find a girl, and you'll get to know her. Eventually you will start living with each other and than a couple years later, ask her hand in marriage. Than on your wedding night make sure you are clean downstairs. Than after your wedding reception you will take her to the hotel, strip naked, than strip her naked, and than you'll make love for 4 hours straight. It will be awesome...
Hey Knuckle head, I think he meant scoring goals...not scoring girls.

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Yeah I didn't even use the word "scoring" so your post wasn't funny at all...
Yea you did... the title of the thread is "Need help scoring"

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whatever you do. keep your stick on the ice. and crash the net

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I am a defenseman, but have been playing forward lately and have 0 goals. Any tips to help me put more in?
I've been playing forward for many years and have never scored many goals. In my current season, however, I'm averaging slightly more than a goal per game. The secret? I've developed a SIMPLE scoring move, which is actually the "go to" move of most NHL snipers.

As a forward, a very typical situation is carrying the puck into the attacking zone, 1-on-1 or 2-on-2. In most recreational leagues, the defenseman will back down until you're in range to shoot. That scenario is the perfect time to use the d-man as a screen and shoot.

I either shoot it through the defender's legs or I curl to the side a bit and then shoot. I also prefer to shoot it right along the ice since most goalies in my league don't go straight to butterfly. Quick and dirty, and it works! Most forwards will try to beat every defender until he is 1-on-1 with the goalie, but there's just not enough space.

Next time you have a defender backing down, think about shooting!

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I've been playing forward for many years and have never scored many goals. In my current season, however, I'm averaging slightly more than a goal per game. The secret? I've developed a SIMPLE scoring move, which is actually the "go to" move of most NHL snipers.

As a forward, a very typical situation is carrying the puck into the attacking zone, 1-on-1 or 2-on-2. In most recreational leagues, the defenseman will back down until you're in range to shoot. That scenario is the perfect time to use the d-man as a screen and shoot.

I either shoot it through the defender's legs or I curl to the side a bit and then shoot. I also prefer to shoot it right along the ice since most goalies in my league don't go straight to butterfly. Quick and dirty, and it works! Most forwards will try to beat every defender until he is 1-on-1 with the goalie, but there's just not enough space.

Next time you have a defender backing down, think about shooting!
Thanks,

I'll be sure to try this in my game today.

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I've been playing forward for many years and have never scored many goals. In my current season, however, I'm averaging slightly more than a goal per game. The secret? I've developed a SIMPLE scoring move, which is actually the "go to" move of most NHL snipers.

As a forward, a very typical situation is carrying the puck into the attacking zone, 1-on-1 or 2-on-2. In most recreational leagues, the defenseman will back down until you're in range to shoot. That scenario is the perfect time to use the d-man as a screen and shoot.

I either shoot it through the defender's legs or I curl to the side a bit and then shoot. I also prefer to shoot it right along the ice since most goalies in my league don't go straight to butterfly. Quick and dirty, and it works! Most forwards will try to beat every defender until he is 1-on-1 with the goalie, but there's just not enough space.

Next time you have a defender backing down, think about shooting!
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally, someone who has got it right! I haven been say this for years. Thanks for beating me to it.

It is kind of funny why wingers feels that they have to beat the defensemen, when all's they have to do is use the defensemen as a screen.

Great Post Tinkeric!

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Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally, someone who has got it right! I haven been say this for years. Thanks for beating me to it.

It is kind of funny why wingers feels that they have to beat the defensemen, when all's they have to do is use the defensemen as a screen.

Great Post Tinkeric!

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Here's a good instructional video for the "use defender as screen" shot from Vincent Lecavalier, who knows something about scoring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAVJw...e=channel_page

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Go to bars. Wear nice clothes. Buy drinks. Talk to the ladies and act like yourself. Wear cologne. It might take a couple tries but eventually you'll find a girl, and you'll get to know her. Eventually you will start living with each other and than a couple years later, ask her hand in marriage. Than on your wedding night make sure you are clean downstairs. Than after your wedding reception you will take her to the hotel, strip naked, than strip her naked, and than you'll make love for 4 hours straight. It will be awesome...

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Here's another angle to consider, I like to consider it the Brett Hull mehtod since he was so famous for it.

When the puck is down deep and not in your corner, stay away from the front of the net and the rest of the crowd, glide away from everyone and even loop to the far side, then you can glide in behind everyone in to the high slot (yes high slot not goal mout, you'd be surprised how many rebounds bounce out past everyone) and hopefully get a pass/rebound that you can fire home. It doesn't work every time and it's not for all situations, you have to make sure you're not doing this all the time and letting your linemates do all the dirty work b/c that's a surefire way to make sure they never pass to you. It's just something to think about and try out, you'd be surprised how often it works in adult hockey/rec leagues. Oh and one more thing, when you get the puck shoot it as quick as possible. Wrist shots/snap shots are best b/c you don't want to give the goalie time to set up and get in position.

Good luck.

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Many goalies find two fee of the ice blocker side to be the hardest spot to react to a shot.

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You want bread, go to the bakery. You want money, go to the bank. You want goals? Go to the net.

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Like there's some magical formula to start putting pucks (or whatever you play with) in the net. You either have a scorer's touch or you don't.

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Like there's some magical formula to start putting pucks (or whatever you play with) in the net. You either have a scorer's touch or you don't.
Not true.
A lot of times the players style and positioning have a lot to do with it...If you have the 'scoring touch' but you don't have the smarts to go where you need to be, it doesn't work.

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Do you get scoring chances on rushes?
Does your line cycle the puck much?
How would you rate your shot compared to your level of play?

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Like there's some magical formula to start putting pucks (or whatever you play with) in the net. You either have a scorer's touch or you don't.
Nothing gets my back up more than this comment. The fact that Brett Hull can elaborate on what made him such a proficient scorer, that John Bucyk would practice roofing buckets upon buckets of pucks from just outside the goalmouth, that Glen Murray and his center would stay on the ice long after practice says it's more than just being born with a particular skillset. It's a combination of strategy, technique and (in some cases) strength. Just because some players make it look easy doesn't mean they didn't work like hell to prepare for the moment they got the puck on their stick blade.

For that matter what baby can roof a puck?

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Not true.
A lot of times the players style and positioning have a lot to do with it...If you have the 'scoring touch' but you don't have the smarts to go where you need to be, it doesn't work.
Yeah, are we talking skill or smarts here? As a beginner I'm lacking in the skills department, I'm not the type that can beat a competent defender 1 on 1 or deke a goalie out of his pants. But hockey smarts I have in spades, letting me score at a good pace right from the start. Whether its cleaning up the garbage (which is a bit more complicated than just going to the net), seeing the goalie cheat pass on a 2 on 1 and taking the shot, or using the defender as a screen to shoot through, I was always able to keep pace with the ringers in my beginners division.

First thing for the OP though, hows your shot? As a dman I'd imagine your shop shot is good, wristers probably decent as well, but what about the backhand? If you take a puck a few feet from the board and try shooting it high, how often do you get it up? If it's only like 1 in 5 you need to practice that a lot more, since obviously the easiest way to score is to pick up a rebound in front of the net where it's 50/50 that you get it backhand or forehand. If you can't do one you don't have the time to switch.

Anyways, now that I think about it I'm not really sure what to say for advice on crashing the crease. It's not so much about the 'crashing' as it is anticipating where the rebound may end up. Sometimes you want to be screening the goalie (D point shot), other times you want to hang back a bit for that long rebound (on the rush), and other times sneak into the back door. An example of scoring on this last one, while playing LW, the puck was on the right side, and the RW was taking a shot from an angle in the slot, with the C in front of the net with other teams D. Rather than crash the net with him I snuck in behind the play a few feet from the opposite post, so when the puck bounced off a few people and landed on my side, I had all the time in the world to put it in.

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Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally, someone who has got it right! I haven been say this for years. Thanks for beating me to it.

It is kind of funny why wingers feels that they have to beat the defensemen, when all's they have to do is use the defensemen as a screen.

Great Post Tinkeric!

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don't forget to follow your shot to the net when you use the dman as a screen, if the goalie gets a piece of the shot there is usually a nice juicy rebound that they are now out of position to play.Also the dman that you just used for a screen will usually turn to watch the shot not continue to keep his eyes on you.

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Do you get scoring chances on rushes?
Does your line cycle the puck much?
How would you rate your shot compared to your level of play?
I do get a couple of scoring chances on rushes per game. My line is pretty good at cycling the puck, and I would say my snap, slap, and wrist shots are above average for my level, midget b. I think my problem is not knowing where to go, any tips?

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I do get a couple of scoring chances on rushes per game. My line is pretty good at cycling the puck, and I would say my snap, slap, and wrist shots are above average for my level, midget b. I think my problem is not knowing where to go, any tips?
As a general strategy, when the three forwards are in the offensive zone... one forward without the puck drives to the net and the other forward w/o the puck supports the puck carrier, usually by moving somewhere behind the carrier -- not necessarily directly behind, but somewhere you can receive a pass.

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