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Jay Bo for Ryan Whitney + Draft Picks

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02-03-2009, 08:03 AM
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I don't think either team does this one... J-bo will probably want 6+ mil and I doubt the Pens want another player making that much.
Whitney makes 5 million I believe.

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02-03-2009, 08:24 AM
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Whitney makes 5 million I believe.
Four million. For the next four seasons. Gonchar makes five next season.

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02-03-2009, 08:32 AM
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If Ryan Whitney lands JBo as the centerpiece in a deal, i will eat my own feces

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and then, the Pens mighty defense mightily carry them to the 9th place, and then, mighty Bouwmeester pulls an Hossa

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02-03-2009, 09:21 AM
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Shero isnt dumb. He would obviously sign first...

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02-03-2009, 10:18 AM
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To Fl: Whitney, Staal, Gogo, 2nd 09
To Pit: Horton, J Bo (signed first)

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02-03-2009, 10:36 AM
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To Fl: Whitney, Staal, Gogo, 2nd 09
To Pit: Horton, J Bo (signed first)
If he's signed first, he's not traded.

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02-03-2009, 10:50 AM
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Is it possible to rule in a section on contract, that includes official sign and trade -deal, so GM has to get a signment from the player (J-Bo), that he accepts a trade to other team (Pittsburgh) and can't be UFA at the summer? It would secure the deal.


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02-03-2009, 10:56 AM
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Just for you, next time I'll add to make sure you'll get it the first time.
Your first attempt at sarcasm was quite terrible. 0/10.

That being said, Whitney + picks is a pretty lame deal. The picks better be substantial, getting a lesser defenseman back and no bodies back would be a terrible deal for Florida.

I don't think their fans could take one more trade like that.

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02-03-2009, 11:05 AM
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Your first attempt at sarcasm was quite terrible. 0/10.

That being said, Whitney + picks is a pretty lame deal. The picks better be substantial, getting a lesser defenseman back and no bodies back would be a terrible deal for Florida.

I don't think their fans could take one more trade like that.
You are ignoring the fact that J-Bo is more than likely not going to re-sign with the Panthers next year. Losing J-Bo is a huge blow to Florida, but losing him and not getting anything in return could be devastating. Whitney would be at least a decent replacement.

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You are ignoring the fact that J-Bo is more than likely not going to re-sign with the Panthers next year. Losing J-Bo is a huge blow to Florida, but losing him and not getting anything in return could be devastating. Whitney would be at least a decent replacement.
Bingo!

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02-03-2009, 11:27 AM
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You are ignoring the fact that J-Bo is more than likely not going to re-sign with the Panthers next year. Losing J-Bo is a huge blow to Florida, but losing him and not getting anything in return could be devastating. Whitney would be at least a decent replacement.
How do you know that? Thats purely speculation. I don't think he's going to sign here either, but no one knows.

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02-03-2009, 11:31 AM
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How do you know that? Thats purely speculation. I don't think he's going to sign here either, but no one knows.
If he says 'more than likely' and you agree, then what's the issue?
When J-Bo hasn't signed an extension yet, then that is a major red flag, and if Martin seriously doesn't know either, then it wouldn't be prudent for the future of the Florida franchise to not trade him.
Don't you agree?

I'm not saying I would want the deal btw. At least not if Bouw wasn't signed and that at a cap hit lower than what most assume he will demand. Otherwise we can't afford him

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02-03-2009, 11:38 AM
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If he says 'more than likely' and you agree, then what's the issue?
When J-Bo hasn't signed an extension yet, then that is a major red flag, and if Martin seriously doesn't know either, then it wouldn't be prudent for the future of the Florida franchise to not trade him.
Don't you agree?

I'm not saying I would want the deal btw. At least not if Bouw wasn't signed and that at a cap hit lower than what most assume he will demand. Otherwise we can't afford him
I agree. The fact that he hasn't signed an extension yet is not a good sign. Its hard to tell what Martin should do. I mean you definitely don't wanna lose a guy like Jbo for nothing, or at all for that matter. Ideally, the best case scenario would be to keep him.

If the feeling is that he's gonna walk, then you gotta make a trade. I can understand the "lets keep him, hope we make the playoffs, and hope he re-signs." concept, but its pretty risky if we do that.

Thank god the trade deadline is only a month away lol.

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02-03-2009, 11:51 AM
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To Fl: Whitney, Staal, Gogo, 2nd 09
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A signed Jay Bo = Malkin. Otherwise, fuggetaboutit. Oh, and STOP WITH THE HORTON + JAY PROPOSALS, please please please!!! If you are referring to a sign and trade, then I send a letter cursing this organization to Jacques Martin and Alan Cohen every day if he's traded for Whitney. That would be utterly horrible.

If Florida signs Bo (somehow), he's not going anywhere unless it's for a franchise type player like Malkin. Martin has said many times Jay is franchise defenseman tha the organization would open its wallet for. The rumor by our local beat writer was the Panthers offered him a 3 year 21 million deal - that 7 mill per season. It's not about the $ to Jay, it's about winning and stability in the organization.

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02-03-2009, 12:09 PM
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I hope this doesn't happen. Whitney is good, but I'd much rather keep JayBo than trade him. If we were forced to trade him, I'd want offense coming back.
My good old leaf hating friend Biggzy, I think thats a great offer for your Panthers. Sure Jay-bo is a much better-well rounded Defensemen than Whitney.

That all being said, Whitney is locked into a long-term decent contract.

Therefore,

Whitney + picks >>>>>>>>>>>>> Losing Jay-bo for nothing.

I'd take it and run if i were the Panthers.

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02-03-2009, 12:10 PM
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A signed Jay Bo = Malkin. Otherwise, fuggetaboutit. Oh, and STOP WITH THE HORTON + JAY PROPOSALS, please please please!!! If you are referring to a sign and trade, then I send a letter cursing this organization to Jacques Martin and Alan Cohen every day if he's traded for Whitney. That would be utterly horrible.

If Florida signs Bo (somehow), he's not going anywhere unless it's for a franchise type player like Malkin. Martin has said many times Jay is franchise defenseman tha the organization would open its wallet for. The rumor by our local beat writer was the Panthers offered him a 3 year 21 million deal - that 7 mill per season. It's not about the $ to Jay, it's about winning and stability in the organization.

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02-03-2009, 12:23 PM
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Whitney is ALL offense... unles of course you want forwards coming back the other way?

In my opinion Pittsburgh wants wingers more than a defenseman.
He wasn't all offense in the playoffs, he was well rounded. He's not done developing his game yet.

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A signed Jay Bo = Malkin. Otherwise, fuggetaboutit. Oh, and STOP WITH THE HORTON + JAY PROPOSALS, please please please!!! If you are referring to a sign and trade, then I send a letter cursing this organization to Jacques Martin and Alan Cohen every day if he's traded for Whitney. That would be utterly horrible.

If Florida signs Bo (somehow), he's not going anywhere unless it's for a franchise type player like Malkin. Martin has said many times Jay is franchise defenseman tha the organization would open its wallet for. The rumor by our local beat writer was the Panthers offered him a 3 year 21 million deal - that 7 mill per season. It's not about the $ to Jay, it's about winning and stability in the organization.
Put the drugs down. You think a signed Jay Bouwmeester = Evgeni Malkin? Maybe that's just you, but I would bet no one else thinks that. Jay Bo isn't a top 3 defenseman in the NHL, Malkin is aguably a top 3 player in the NHL and right now, the leader in pts. I like Jay Bo but he's grossly overrated at times on here, but then again, that's the norm.

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Makes no sense.

Why the hell would Florida trade Jay-Bo when they are in the playoff hunt?

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Makes no sense.

Why the hell would Florida trade Jay-Bo when they are in the playoff hunt?
The goal for most teams, how very few, is winning the cup not making the playoffs. Big deal they make the playoffs, lose and jaybo walks. You trade him no doubt and get assets back in return that can help you get to your goal. Then again for florida making the playoffs is like winning the cup so who knows.

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switch whitney for staal and makes more sense for florida

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A signed Jay Bo = Malkin. Otherwise, fuggetaboutit. Oh, and STOP WITH THE HORTON + JAY PROPOSALS, please please please!!! If you are referring to a sign and trade, then I send a letter cursing this organization to Jacques Martin and Alan Cohen every day if he's traded for Whitney. That would be utterly horrible.

If Florida signs Bo (somehow), he's not going anywhere unless it's for a franchise type player like Malkin. Martin has said many times Jay is franchise defenseman tha the organization would open its wallet for. The rumor by our local beat writer was the Panthers offered him a 3 year 21 million deal - that 7 mill per season. It's not about the $ to Jay, it's about winning and stability in the organization.
It's about the money. If he hit the open market and 3/21 is the best offer, he takes it. But, if you're Florida, why even waste your time with a 3 year deal, wow the guy with a 7 year/49 million deal. Make it hard for him to say no. 3/21 is peanuts for a guy who by your GMs own admission is a "franchise" defenseman. Put it out there, give him a deadline and if he doesn't sign, trade him.

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If he's signed first, he's not traded.
Signed...meaning he has a deal worked out with Pittsburgh.

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A signed Jay Bo = Malkin.
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