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Mark Seidel's Blog: Early mock draft

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8 Nashville Jordan Schroeder; Minnesota (NCAA) RW Another team that has their back end set, so they could go for the U.S.-born Schroeder, who has been very good at Minnesota.

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I would be happy with Schroeder. I would be more happy with Kane and MPS. I only worry about Schroeder's size on an already small team. With that said, I absolutely do not think he will be a bust.

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I rarely agree with Seidel, but I think he's got us pegged.

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No arguing his skill, but we need another small, soft forward like we need a hole in the head. I'd hope we'd do what we needed to do to nab Kane.

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Where do people get this misconception that our forward prospects are all soft? The only ones that fit that bill are Mark Santorelli, O'Reilly, Stefishen, and Ryan. Maybe Mike Santorelli, but I saw him finish a couple of checks when he was in Nashville and he didn't seem uncomfortable in traffic at all.

I also don't get the small bit, since we have three prospects under 6' and only three forwards under 190 lbs.

Plus, if you consider players at 6'0"-190 as "small," then Evander Kane is also "small."


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We have been drafting heavily in forwards with size the past few years. Geoffrion is bigger, Spaling is bigger, Wilson are bigger, and I suspect all three will be on this team soon. We could absorb Schroeder's size, and if that is how the draft pans out, I will be very happy to have Schroeder on this team. He OOZES offensive talent, is US born, and has major leadership ability. Other than size, he is exactly what Poile loves to draft.

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Where do people get this misconception that our forward prospects are all soft? The only ones that fit that bill are Mark Santorelli, O'Reilly, Stefishen, and Ryan.

I also don't get the small bit, since we have three prospects under 6' and only three forwards under 190 lbs.

Plus, if you consider players at 6'0"-190 as "small," then Evander Kane is also "small."
The only forward prospect that we have that I consider a legitimate NHL prospect that I WOULDN'T classify as "soft" is Ryan Jones. Of course, part of that is because we have so few legitimate NHL scoring prospects.

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plus we were supposed to get "bigger and tougher" this past offseason and look how well that has turned out for us.

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The only forward prospect that we have that I consider a legitimate NHL prospect that I WOULDN'T classify as "soft" is Ryan Jones. Of course, part of that is because we have so few legitimate NHL scoring prospects.
I wouldn't consider Nick Spaling soft either. His play isnt the same as Jones, but can take and lay hits if needed.

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plus we were supposed to get "bigger and tougher" this past offseason and look how well that has turned out for us.
Unfortunately our strategy for doing so was "give big bottom line guys more minutes"

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We have been drafting heavily in forwards with size the past few years. Geoffrion is bigger, Spaling is bigger, Wilson are bigger, and I suspect all three will be on this team soon. We could absorb Schroeder's size, and if that is how the draft pans out, I will be very happy to have Schroeder on this team. He OOZES offensive talent, is US born, and has major leadership ability. Other than size, he is exactly what Poile loves to draft.
well he isnt a blueliner

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I wouldn't consider Nick Spaling soft either. His play isnt the same as Jones, but can take and lay hits if needed.
I don't know how much I consider Spaling to be a sure thing, which is my point.

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Unfortunately our strategy for doing so was "give big bottom line guys more minutes"
Ive been tremendously underwhelmed with Belak and Tarnasky before him.

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The only forward prospect that we have that I consider a legitimate NHL prospect that I WOULDN'T classify as "soft" is Ryan Jones. Of course, part of that is because we have so few legitimate NHL scoring prospects.
Spaling is pretty close to a sure thing. I'm not sure how you classify Colin Wilson as soft or not a sure thing.

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Spaling is pretty close to a sure thing. I'm not sure how you classify Colin Wilson as soft or not a sure thing.
I see a lot of Jason Arnott in Colin Wilson. That's not to say he won't be a great NHLer...but banging first liner...I'm not so sure.

And despite great junior numbers, what has Spaling done to fall into the "sure thing" strata?

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Spaling is not pretty close to a sure thing as a "legitimate NHL prospect"? I don't see how you get there. He is having a solid 1st pro year, had great junior years, has been praised as poised beyond his years (paraphrasing) by his coach. I don't expect the world but I'd say he projects as a legit NHL prospect at this point.

I'd frankly be disappointed if Wilson turns out like Arnott. To paraphrase him "I'm not compared to Scott Hartnell, I'm compared to Rod the Bod". I can't see BU games but all the reports that I've seen led me to believe he has more of a bang and crash mentality than Arnott. Arnott is pretty damned soft so that's a low bar that I'd hope he would easily clear.

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Wilson goes to the net more than Arnott does. Jason likes to hover around the slot so he can use his heavy slapper. Wilson goes to the net more, and he will get involved physically. I think the Arnott comparison's are close, but as all comparisons, not entirely accurate. Wilson isn't going to hit like Tootoo, but he is not going to be as passive physically as Arnott is game in and game out.

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I see a lot of Jason Arnott in Colin Wilson. That's not to say he won't be a great NHLer...but banging first liner...I'm not so sure.

And despite great junior numbers, what has Spaling done to fall into the "sure thing" strata?
I believe it was a admirals fan who described him as David legwand without the hype of being a No.2 overall pick. Sounds like he could be a great 2 way third line center.

Arnott
Legwand
Spaling
Wilson
Geofferion(SP?)

The future seems to be bright down the middle.


As far as Schroeder goes I would be ESTATIC if that happens. I watched the kid in the WJC's and he can straight shoot the puck. At 8 he would likely be the best offensive talent left.

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The only forward prospect that we have that I consider a legitimate NHL prospect that I WOULDN'T classify as "soft" is Ryan Jones.
Jones
Wilson
Thang
Geoffrion
Spaling
Thuresson
Hörnqvist
Pihlström (although I'm not sure he's really a prospect anymore)

They may not bust people up like Chuck Norris, but I would hardly call any of those players "soft."

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