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02-07-2009, 11:12 PM
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What the hell are some of you guys talking about??

Price was weak on a couple goals, but we saw in his interview that he cares about his team winning.

We never saw anything of the sort from Kovalev, the Kostitsyns and the like.

One thing that I really hate about the team is how most players never ****ing show signs of frustration after a loss(smashing sticks on the goalpost and such). Yes there is a negative side to that, but it would also shows they care for the ****ing team.

I'm not like some crazy fans who want to destroy the team, or trade all our players when they are in a slump(even though it's been the third or fourth slump this season).

Gainey and co are building this team with the main goal of winning the Stanley Cup.

I'm guessing they are waiting for giving contracts because they want to see who is actually giving a **** about the team(and not about their huge paychecks).

This is the first time I write here, but I read a lot. I'm disappointed because we don't seems to have a player others can count on to turn a game around.

I like Lapierre and Kostopoulos effort. They have an awesome year and like many said, if they had Kovalev talent, they'd be putting lots of points on the board. But they won't turn a game around.

I know it's been said a lot but it's about freaking time the players who are going to be our offensive leaders in the future to move their ass and play with passion and confidence.

I'm talking about three players in particular, Andrei Kostitsyn, Christopher Higgins and Tomas Plekanec.

There you have three guys who should be pushing Kovalev behind and showing they ARE the future.

And finally, Kovalev. This guy is spectacular, and a really nice guy, but he doesn't seems to find the will of playing every game with the same intensity. Sometimes i'm wondering if he's influencing some of our young talent. But if it was the truth, Bob would have already got rid of him(I hope).

I know this team can play with intensity. I know Kovalev, Kostitsyn and Plekanec can dominate another team. I know they can play aggressively. I just wish I knew why they barely ever do it.

All we can do is hope Gainey said something tonight that moved the team.

I hope

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If Price would want out from Montreal, he would not play worse.

God, this team is awful ! Since the Lecavalier's rumours and the Price comeback. it is just ridiculous.

Another two back-to-back losses

Since the Lecavaler frenzy......

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02-07-2009, 11:12 PM
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Seeing the guys picked AFTER AKost makes me want to vomit. Getzlaf, Perry, Richards, Carter, J.Brown, Parise, Burns. What a terrible pick that has turned out to be. Brutal.
Agreed, but ... the Habs do not have a great track record at developing their youngsters, if AKost was picked by another team maybe he'd be playing better and to this point have greater career stats, just don't know for sure.

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02-07-2009, 11:13 PM
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Yep. The Kostitsyn brothers were Savard picks. Latendresse, O'Byrne and Lapierre too.

The picks of Timmins who are currently on the team are Max Pac, Price, D'Agostini and Halak. We could also mention Streit who has been a pretty good pick.
Latendresse was a Timmins pick. Same draft as Price.

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02-07-2009, 11:13 PM
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Yep. The Kostitsyn brothers were Savard picks. Latendresse, O'Byrne and Lapierre too.

The picks of Timmins who are currently on the team are Max Pac, Price, D'Agostini and Halak. We could also mention Streit who has been a pretty good pick.
You are wrong.

http://habsinsideout.com/main/8499

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02-07-2009, 11:14 PM
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Someone asked me what move would immediately help the Habs and I said Get rid of Kovalev (he clearly has worn out his welcome) and get Dandaneault on D replacing Bouillon who has been absolutely brutal.
This. In addition, Carbo should tell his defenseman that anyone who yield the blue line to opposition forward will be benched the next game. Gainey should find a much bigger replacement for Bouillion. Also keep an eye on Gorges, trade/replace him if neccesary. The problem with our defense is that a lot of our defesemen are smurfs.

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02-07-2009, 11:15 PM
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Latendresse was a Timmins pick. Same draft as Price.
Yep, but that's Savard who pushed to pick him.

http://www2.canoe.com/sports/nouvell...17-081500.html

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02-07-2009, 11:16 PM
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No, it was Timmins.
Wrong.

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Yep. The Kostitsyn brothers were Savard picks. Latendresse, O'Byrne and Lapierre too.

The picks of Timmins who are currently on the team are Max Pac, Price, D'Agostini and Halak. We could also mention Streit who has been a pretty good pick.
Savards pick also.

In three seasons as the team’s GM, Savard was responsible for drafting Mike Komisarek (first round in 2001), Tomas Plekanec (third round in 2001), Christopher Higgins (first round in 2002), Andrei Kostitsyn (first round in 2003), Maxim Lapierre (second round in 2003), Ryan O’Byrne (third round in 2003), and Jaroslav Halak (ninth round in 2003).

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02-07-2009, 11:19 PM
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Savards pick also.

In three seasons as the team’s GM, Savard was responsible for drafting Mike Komisarek (first round in 2001), Tomas Plekanec (third round in 2001), Christopher Higgins (first round in 2002), Andrei Kostitsyn (first round in 2003), Maxim Lapierre (second round in 2003), Ryan O’Byrne (third round in 2003), and Jaroslav Halak (ninth round in 2003).

http://ourhistory.canadiens.com/gm/Andre-Savard
So the article that quotes Timmins as saying he was in charge of this draft is wrong?

HIO: The Andrei Kostitsyn draft was your first. Was he a big risk?

TT: He was easily a Top 5 talent, even from the year before the draft. But he had some sort of illness, epilepsy it turned out to be. But we brought Dr. Mulder to the NHL combine and he looked at the medical history and checked him out. He said draft the player based on his ability and I can take care of his health issues. So that's what we did. He stayed an extra year in Russia, but when we finally got him over here and under the correct dosage of medicine, which takes some playing around with, he feels pretty good health wise and just had a breakout season.

The thing that struck me the most at the NHL combine was the anaerobic test. He got on the bike and it was pretty high intensity. He started and began to have tremors, an epileptic seizure. So he got off the bike and calmed down. Once he felt good enough, he got right back on the bike and did the test. That showed some intestinal fortitude.

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So, where do we go from here?
What's the solution?

Should we hire psychiatrist, a goalie coach, defense coach, attack coach, coach coach?

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bob will have a discussion with himself tonight. Colgate or crest?

then the trade deadline will pass
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For some reason that made me crack up.

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02-07-2009, 11:23 PM
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Man I wish I could be Gainey for one day. I would fire Carbonneau and replace him with Tortorella.

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Man I wish I could be Gainey for one day. I would fire Carbonneau and replace him with Tortorella.
he doesnt speak french...

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So, where do we go from here?
What's the solution?

Should we hire psychiatrist, a goalie coach, defense coach, attack coach, coach coach?
Tortorella/Hartley are good offensive coach. Bob should get either one of them as associated coach.

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Seeing the guys picked AFTER AKost makes me want to vomit. Getzlaf, Perry, Richards, Carter, J.Brown, Parise, Burns. What a terrible pick that has turned out to be. Brutal.
its very easy to say that after the fact

BUT i pretty much have to agree....its not like it was just one great player after a-kost, there are a lot. the first 4 is WOW and to think 2 teams have 2 of them

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So the article that quotes Timmins as saying he was in charge of this draft is wrong?

HIO: The Andrei Kostitsyn draft was your first. Was he a big risk?

TT: He was easily a Top 5 talent, even from the year before the draft. But he had some sort of illness, epilepsy it turned out to be. But we brought Dr. Mulder to the NHL combine and he looked at the medical history and checked him out. He said draft the player based on his ability and I can take care of his health issues. So that's what we did. He stayed an extra year in Russia, but when we finally got him over here and under the correct dosage of medicine, which takes some playing around with, he feels pretty good health wise and just had a breakout season.

The thing that struck me the most at the NHL combine was the anaerobic test. He got on the bike and it was pretty high intensity. He started and began to have tremors, an epileptic seizure. So he got off the bike and calmed down. Once he felt good enough, he got right back on the bike and did the test. That showed some intestinal fortitude.
Timmins was the scout, Savard said yes or no. Gainey said OK.

Now Timmins is the scout, Bob Gainey says yes or no.

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Quick question guys and it's really off topic, but I was in your PGT yesterday (and yes, being civil, no need to start anything lol) and I wanted to know how some of you make your avatars? I really like the ones that have the 100 year mark on them, and was wondering if you use photoshop or some other program for it?

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he doesnt speak french...

ooops...
What's wrong with that?

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So, where do we go from here?
What's the solution?

Should we hire psychiatrist, a goalie coach, defense coach, attack coach, coach coach?
We NEEEEED a defence coach.
next step fire ****ING melanson
third step get some competant assistants

try carbs for a month, is that doesnt do it replace him with hartley.

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The legacy of this team so far, is it's complete inability to beat lower echelon teams. If they don't make the playoffs, it will because of all the squandered points in "gimme" games....Atlanta, Tampa, Toronto.

You can't win'em all, but you should sure as hell win the easy ones.

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Timmins was the scout, Savard said yes or no. Gainey said OK.

Now Timmins is the scout, Bob Gainey says yes or no.
And it was known Savard was on his way out. Timmins was in charge of the draft.

Bottom line - it was a brutal pick.

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Man I wish I could be Gainey for one day. I would fire Carbonneau and replace him with Tortorella.
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we will have soldiers and media will shut up for once

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Real teams respond when they're enforcer fights and wins, the Habs just lay down and die.
I think the fight had the opposite effect and fired up the Leafs. May showed a lot of courage stepping up to Laraque and theres no doubt his teammates respected that. How about Sergei shown on CBC before the game shadow boxing with MMA gloves on? What a goof.

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The legacy of this team so far, is it's complete inability to beat lower echelon teams. If they don't make the playoffs, it will because of all the squandered points in "gimme" games....Atlanta, Tampa, Toronto.

You can't win'em all, but you should sure as hell win the easy ones.
The issue is in your statement - the idea that this team thinks there are any gimme games. What has this team done to think that way? One year where they finished 1st in the conference yet could only get to the 2nd round?

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Quick question guys and it's really off topic, but I was in your PGT yesterday (and yes, being civil, no need to start anything lol) and I wanted to know how some of you make your avatars? I really like the ones that have the 100 year mark on them, and was wondering if you use photoshop or some other program for it?
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=529289

Pretty sure you can find your answer in there somewhere, as that's where most of them came from.

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