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02-10-2009, 03:23 PM
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Back to Gainey:

Did he ever explain why he refuses to negociate during the season? If it's to prevent jealousy or players receiving special treatments, how is that any better than creating a competition environment in which players may try to boost their stats with their post-season negociations in mind instead of putting the team first?

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02-10-2009, 03:24 PM
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His biggest error was not having ESP.

Significant injuries to:
Price
Koivu
Higgins
Komisarek
Tanguay
Lang
A.Kos (Short period)

Lesser Extent
Dandy
Laraque

Despite this the team is still in a playoff spot (for now)

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02-10-2009, 03:25 PM
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McPhee once again let his pills lie around.

And they have been taken by more than one poster, as seen by some redundant comments, from redundant posters.

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02-10-2009, 03:25 PM
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You may be harsh but you aren't the only one saying this. I know Pierre Maguire and PJ Stock have been.

...insert all negative comments about these two here:
pierre and pj are always negative in regards to the habs...just like you. so of course you'd mention them.

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02-10-2009, 03:28 PM
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I can agree easily with you on this one.

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It's so fun to compute !

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02-10-2009, 03:31 PM
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02-10-2009, 03:33 PM
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pierre and pj are always negative in regards to the habs...just like you. so of course you'd mention them.
I'll take their opinion over yours.

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02-10-2009, 03:33 PM
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I keep saying I won't come back to the boards until the game on Wed. because of threads like this
It's stupid emo threads like this are why I don't frequent the Habs board as much as I'd like to.

People seriously need to think before they post.

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02-10-2009, 03:33 PM
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Lang has been good but you will see him slip away during the playoffs.
Considering he is likely out for the season, you have a good point here.

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02-10-2009, 03:34 PM
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Why doesn't everyone start there own thread with whatever person they would like to blame?

I want to go next.

I think it's Tom Kostopolous's fault. His name is hard to spell, it confuses people and the Habs react by tanking a few games here and there.

Now it's your turn.

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02-10-2009, 03:38 PM
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Freaking Gainey..... if only he listened to the posters on HF....

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02-10-2009, 03:39 PM
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I'll take their opinion over yours.
I'll take mine over yours or theirs.


BTW, Pee-air McGuire has never been known as huge Habs fan, even, before last season, he seemed to loathe them. And PJ is a diehard Ruins fan.

Yeah, their stock is high

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Slow Bob Gainey {Slingblade} certainly has never addressed the teams needs, so yeah.. if you aren't part of the solution you can be considered part of the problem.
Take a look at the 2002-2003 roster and tell me again that he never adressed the team's needs.

Oh right, I'm talking to you, so I shouldn't expect that you'd use logic or facts.


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02-10-2009, 03:47 PM
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I'll take mine over yours or theirs.


BTW, Pee-air McGuire has never been known as huge Habs fan, even, before last season, he seemed to loathe them. And PJ is a diehard Ruins fan.

Yeah, their stock is high
You sound like such a whiner. "He doesn't like the Habs, so I won't listen". He's on TSN and NBC and PJ is on CBC, but their opinions mean nothing to you.

Critical thinking - look into it.

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02-10-2009, 03:55 PM
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You sound like such a whiner. "He doesn't like the Habs, so I won't listen". He's on TSN and NBC and PJ is on CBC, but their opinions mean nothing to you.

Critical thinking - look into it.
post when the habs are winning and not losing - look into it.

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02-10-2009, 03:57 PM
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You sound like such a whiner. "He doesn't like the Habs, so I won't listen". He's on TSN and NBC and PJ is on CBC, but their opinions mean nothing to you.

Critical thinking - look into it.

So because they're on TV, they are better and more knowledgeable than the rest?

I respect Pierre but.. PJ? Really? Because he's on CBC he knows what he's talking about? Really? Have you ever actually listened to him? Jesus christ.

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02-10-2009, 04:04 PM
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02-10-2009, 04:11 PM
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We wouldn't be having this problem if the league would have gotten rid of shot blocking like Gainey wanted!


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02-10-2009, 04:15 PM
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Thats the best strategy Gainey could have in a so crucial season.. And we actually see the ones that wont come back.. Prove me what you can bring for this team and we will negociate when the season end..

Nothing wrong with that approach.. Its fair for everyone.. Do you really wanted Gainey to sign a guy like Kovalev for 3 more years before the season start?

There is a prob but you have the wrong targets.. Who have been speaking about Komisarek's contract lately.. The medias.. Who have been talking 1 hour long about a letter changing of jersey? The medias.. Why the hell has RDS showed some days ago Koivu going to the other rink, making a 10 sec apparence at the end of the ice.. Not reacting to some noise coming from some child at the other end of the ice when Youppi was interracting with them? They made Koivu look like a heartless person when we all know thats clearly not the case.. Maybe Koivu had the head somewhere else, maybe Koivu thought the kids were reacting to Youppi ect ect.. Thats BS journalism, especially considering they did it just after Koivu's come back, after a loss where Kovalev lost his famous "C"... Who said on the air that Price was in desintox? Who said on the air that Laraque didnt care about playing? Who are making constant BS controversy out of anything?

Why so many hockey players dont wanna come play here when they basically all admit how great the fans are and how great the atmosphere is when they play here?

There are too many BS journalists on the air, thats it thats all.. Every little moves Carbo does are analyzed by the I wanna be GM fans, the I wanna be GM journalists and re analized again and over again.. Why did Jacques Lemaire say the Canadiens were uncoachable? Why Mario Tremblay, another warrior that played his heart for this team, has something against MTL?

Claude Julien "juju" is actually the head coach of the best team in the league, a team that have improved drasticly since he took control of this team, probably the most improved team in the shortest laps of time..

Michel Therrien, head coach of the Stanley cup finalist last year..

Alain Vigneault, Jacks Adams under his belt..

No dear friend, the problem isnt Gainey, neither Carbo, the prob is that our players are suffocating!

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02-10-2009, 04:15 PM
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You sound like such a whiner. "He doesn't like the Habs, so I won't listen". He's on TSN and NBC and PJ is on CBC, but their opinions mean nothing to you.

Critical thinking - look into it.
LOL... you talking about critical thinking is like mother Theresa talking about murder.

You know, the 'critical' part of the expression "critical thinking" doesn't mean you have to "critic" something to actually have critical thinking. Critical thinking is a process, one which you seem foreign to.

I could say the exact same thing about you "oh he doesn't like the Habs, so I WILL listen to him, because I don't like them either!!".

Sorry, but you've COMPLETELY missed the boat on critical thinking the second you doubted Gainey, and yet put credit on what these 'experts' say.

So lemme get this straight... Gainey doesn't know what he's doing, but McGuire and Stock know what they are talking about?

So I should trust their opinion, because they are professionals from the media, but I shouldn't trust Gainey because he's a professional who doesn't have a clue about his job? Hmmm, it sounds more like you have an issue, its called negative bias, which is miles apart from critical thinking. because if we were to trust the most knowledgable source, I doubt people would chose McGuire over Gainey. Ahem.


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02-10-2009, 04:48 PM
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Is Gainey the Problem?

While I don't necessarily think that Gainey is the entire problem, Gainey does not seem to be able to find solutions to the Hab's problems - which is his responsibility!

Gainey has been Hab's GM nearly 6 years and this team is no closer to being a Cup contender than when he took the team over in '03!

Other GM's (Holmgen in Philly and Chiarelli in Boston) have done much more than Gainey in a much shorter time.

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02-10-2009, 04:55 PM
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Confidence would be the problem.

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02-10-2009, 04:59 PM
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No the problem is Carboneau

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02-10-2009, 05:31 PM
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Everything is going how it's supposed to go this year. Kovalev is playing how he always played. We have two sophomores in nets. Injuries happens to every team. Plekenec is playing like he was playing two years ago. Gorges, Bouillon and Brisebois show that they are #6 or 7 Dmen. Higgins/Komisarek/Andrei K are still somewhat underachieving.

But on the bright side some players are doing great, better than expected (Markov, Koivu, Tanguay, Latendresse, Lapierre, Kostopoulos, Dandenault + the callups.

So some thing are going well, some are going bad and we're still 5th in the conference depite having a pretty average lineup (no top fowards, pretty bad defense, questionable goaltending, not much grit, size or intensity).

I think the Habs are doing pretty good for what they have. But we're not in position to beat go far into the playoffs right now.
You truly are MAD if you think you're giving a fair assessment of our players.

According to you, it's normal for Plekanec to play bad..?!..he had a 1 1/2 good season, but that was just luck I guess.
It's normal that a team keeps losing key players at the same time, multiple times throughout the year.
It's normal for 8players to be in a bad slump.
It's normal for Higgins/A.Kost/Komi to underachieve..which is paradoxical.
Tanguay has apparently been better than expected..

What the hell are you talking about..??..

Our team has been faced with adversity by having to deal with injuries since the beginning of the season. Due to this, chemistry wasn't developed.
It's not normal for everything to go bad/collapse at the same time.

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