Out of town USA fans and lots of Mexico fans all over downtown late morning early afternoon. And the TV trucks were lined up at the stadium when I drove past at 10:30.
1460/97.1 said their sales guys were at the bar drinking with the "hooligans" at noon.
Mexico just seems to do the dumbest **** against the US. We're totally in their heads.
Marquez's idiotic red card effectively ended the match. How about Sanchez booting the ball into the stands after we scored the second goal? At least it wasn't as bad as in 2005 when he tried to break Eddie Johnson's leg after a goal.
And a whopping ONE Mexican player stayed on the field to shake hands with the US players. I guess that's one more than usual.
once again mexico stays CLASSY!!!
azteca stadium here we come
bye bye sven
and what else would you expect from marquez,what a ******.
let's hope nobody gets hurt bad during these final 9 games.
p.s. hedjuk getting slapped in the face after the game by a asst. coach is just ridiculous.
Cool, the crowd sounded awesome. Still heard too many Mexicans yelling "puto" when Howard would take a goal kick, but they kind of quieted down after the Marquez ejection.
Okay, so I know the issue of why roids in baseball = armageddon and the issue of roids in football = oh well. I know that is how the media and society seems to view the two sports. I get the importance of history and records to baseball and why that makes performance enhancing drugs in baseball the WORST. THING. EVER.
But I still can’t help but get fired-up/pissed/annoyed at how the two sports are regarded on this issue. Simply acknowleding why that is the case doesn’t justify it.
Does the public care about performance enhancement in other sports, particularly football?
Mike Golic on ESPN radio this morning said no, the public doesn’t. But the more I hear people say that, the more I’m not sure I believe it. The public didn’t give Shawnne Merriman the defensive player of the year award the same season he was suspended four games for testing positive for a banned substance. The public isn’t who investigates these issues. It’s the media.
The media doesn’t investigate football because they don’t want to or, even worse, the NFL actively discourages such a venture. And I’m getting tired of hearing the same old chestnuts about baseball’s sacred records and society’s bloodthirst for manly gladiators as the excuses as to why this attitude is okay.
Not that any of this is a surprise. I just wanted to vent.
I don’t want a chef who refuses to make me a steak tell me he’s doing so because he thinks I don’t want steak.
Give me the g-d steak and I’ll decide.
Well, to the NFL's credit, they started steroid testing a lot earlier than the MLB did. I think the illusion of control that the NFL has gives them the upper hand on the steroid situation. The MLB was under public and media scrutiny for years before they decided to implement a strict steroid testing policy.
Now, I'm not saying there aren't holes in the NFL's policy or that it is an effective policy at all, but I think the fact that they had a testing policy in place before the big hubub over steroids in MLB has kept them from receiving the kind of backlash the MLB has.
That and it's the NFL. It's a much more popular sport than baseball and people are less likely to criticize and more likely to overlook issues like this.
There's less of a connection with individual players in the NFL, it's that simple. They wear huge pads and helmets, most fans wouldn't recognize 90% of the guys on their favorite team at the mall.
MLB players are better known on an individual level. You know what they all look like, there's more of an individual connection.
That said, I don't care about steroids in either of them.
There's less of a connection with individual players in the NFL, it's that simple. They wear huge pads and helmets, most fans wouldn't recognize 90% of the guys on their favorite team at the mall.
MLB players are better known on an individual level. You know what they all look like, there's more of an individual connection.
This is very true. Probably explains how so many stinking racist ******** are football fans, when you think about it.
The NFL has been proactive in trying to get rid of steroids and the like in the sport. But, Bud Selig and his cronies turned a blind eye to steroids back in the 1990s when they could have put stuff in place to try and deter the usage. Today, 'ol Bud is trying to save face and clean up the sport, making him a huge hypocrit.
That is why the two sports are viewed different when it comes to steroid use — and quite honestly, it's justified. I don't advocate steroid use and the players who do it are wrong, but when 'ol Bud lets it happen, well, it's like having teens stay home alone for the weekend while the parents are gone, with a house full of alcohol: You tell me what's going to happen?
The NFL has been proactive in trying to get rid of steroids and the like in the sport. But, Bud Selig and his cronies turned a blind eye to steroids back in the 1990s when they could have put stuff in place to try and deter the usage. Today, 'ol Bud is trying to save face and clean up the sport, making him a huge hypocrit.
That is why the two sports are viewed different when it comes to steroid use — and quite honestly, it's justified. I don't advocate steroid use and the players who do it are wrong, but when 'ol Bud lets it happen, well, it's like having teens stay home alone for the weekend while the parents are gone, with a house full of alcohol: You tell me what's going to happen?
The kids call everyone in town looking for a ride to church?
That's also why I think it would be ridiculous if A-Rod was punished. They turned a blind eye to this sort of thing, yet still think people should be kept out of the Hall of Fame and/or punished in some way for what they did. Sorry, but unless they get caught under the new policy I think it's all old news that we're just bringing up again because one of the game's best players happened to be involved in it.
That's also why I think it would be ridiculous if A-Rod was punished. They turned a blind eye to this sort of thing, yet still think people should be kept out of the Hall of Fame and/or punished in some way for what they did. Sorry, but unless they get caught under the new policy I think it's all old news that we're just bringing up again because one of the game's best players happened to be involved in it.
Oh well.
Recently, as in the past week or so, Bud — who has a well-known anti-man-crush for Barry Bonds — was all in favor of supporting his friend, Hank Aaron, and reinstating his HR mark as the career record and nixing Bonds.
Aaron has already came out and said that it's no longer his record and he's just No. 2 now.
Besides, do that, and how many records would have to be altered? Rocket's 300 wins? Raffy's 3,000 hits? Gagne's save streak? Many, many others we can go into, too, but I don't feel like typing out the list.
The easiest way to handle it is just say the era is tainted and hope it gets cleaned up for the future.
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Wonder how long till they ban Babe Ruth when it is revealed that he drank alcohol during Prohibition?
Hell, Babe Ruth took performance decreasers — hot dogs, beer, etc.
