I wouldn't mind Roy coming in the Habs organisation but the way I would do it is next year have Don Lever replace Jarvis with Patrick becoming the coach in Hamilton.
I highly doubt Roy would ever spend a minute coaching in Hamilton.
I heard McGuire & Dubé from CKAC saying to Villenveuve that Price did not had the best training habits. He was good before his injury but during his injury and since then, he is not giving his maximum to be in top shape and to work his technique.
Do you remember that Sutter few years ago cut Price from the Junior Team because of that ?
It is time to whip the kid. A good wake up call is required.
Less partys, less beer and less cigarettes might also help.
somehow i wish roy was part of the habs management or coaching staff, if theres somebody who knows how to deal with the pressure of being a habs goalie in Montreal its roy
Carbo just dont get how to deal with his goaltender, he always blame the goalie before anyone else on the team
But Roy never showed he was a team player... It is easy to intimidate kids in the junior, the the NHL is a league of men. He wouldn't be a good right harm for a head coach, nor would he be a good coach. You guys though Tortorella was mad? ...
But Roy never showed he was a team player... It is easy to intimidate kids in the junior, the the NHL is a league of men. He wouldn't be a good right harm for a head coach, nor would he be a good coach. You guys though Tortorella was mad? ...
Bad example to prove your point, that guy won a cup not to long ago!
I beg to differ that Carbo isn't as popular as Roy in Montreal. The problem is that the younger generation doesn't remember Carbo as a player. He was captain of this team, a leader, a multi Stanley Cup winner with this team. So you may speak for the younger generation of Habs' fans, but not the fan base with that comment.
I don't believe that you are whatever age you say you are.
Nevertheless.. Roy has achieved a level of excellence in his play that Carbo never did.
I like Carbo as a person. I don't like Roy as a person. But what you're saying makes no sense. Roy was a hero. He's a multiple Conn Smythe winning - multiple stanley cup winning - hall of fame - winningiest goalie of all time - number hanged up at the rafters - hero in this city.
He would have left at the end of last season, so it wouldn't change anything...
Plus, he's not even the number one goalie on his team...
You don't get the point. Huet would have made a very good veteran goalie to back up Price. He wouldnt be the number 1 goalie in montreal but he would have been better then Halak. Not that Halak isnt good, but he's a rookie just like price. They can't back eachothers they are basicly the same, they have the same rookie flaws.
Not surprisingly, it's becoming easier to believe that some of you would actually like to have this borderline dysfunctional anywhere near a position of responsibility with this team.
Price is not playing well, it's his problem to break from. If not, he's simply not a good goaltender. End of story.
End of story? He's 21 freakin' years old? What do you expect? He needs mentoring and coaching, and Roy said exactly that.
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Not surprisingly, it's becoming easier to believe that some of you would actually like to have this borderline dysfunctional anywhere near a position of responsibility with this team.
Just Ugly.
I certainly wouldn't want him in charge as some suggest, but I would be in favour of firing Melanson, hiring Roy on a part time basis this season as a goaltenders' consultant and if all goes well, offer him an assistant coach's position for the defense and goaltending for next year.
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You don't get the point. Huet would have made a very good veteran goalie to back up Price. He wouldnt be the number 1 goalie in montreal but he would have been better then Halak. Not that Halak isnt good, but he's a rookie just like price. They can't back eachothers they are basicly the same, they have the same rookie flaws.
You don't get it either. You really think Cristobal Huet would stay in Montreal to back up Carey Price after having 2 good seasons? The guy is not dumb. He tested the market and got big money...
And to quote PR:
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«Ça ne changeait pas grand-chose que ce soit un vétéran ou un plus jeune. Quand tu es sur le banc, tu ne penses qu'à revenir au jeu, peu importe le gardien qui est sur la glace.»
The kid has bad practice habits. McGuire admitted that today. Saying he trains at about a 75 % rate. The kid is lazy because he relies on his talent too much.
End of story? He's 21 freakin' years old? What do you expect? He needs mentoring and coaching, and Roy said exactly that.
Yes, meantime he's the number one goaltender. Being 21 years old or 41 years old is not an asset when you can't play well as the number one goaltender.
Knock off your criticism of everything but Price. He needs to improve, and he's got an accomplished coach to help him. But Price does not have impunity.
Your impatience with a proven goaltender coach shows more than any impatience anyone has about anything else.
The goaltending situation must improve or Montreal's 2009 hopes die quickly.
That my friend is YOUR problem, not mine. I've lived to celebrate 10 Habs' Stanley Cups. I have nothing to prove.
Nevertheless Mr. Asterix sir,
Carbo was a hab from 83-94 and Roy was a hab from 85-95... so the vast majority of their careers overlapped. People who remember Roy on the habs would also remember the player Carbo was....
Age of fans has nothing to do about how "popular" they find Roy as opposed to Carbo.
ON topic: I think both would be pretty bad coaches in Montreal
You don't get it either. You really think Cristobal Huet would stay in Montreal to back up Carey Price after having 2 good seasons? The guy is not dumb. He tested the market and got big money...
And to quote PR:
I think he knows his stuff more than we do..
Well now that's another story. But you said "he's not even 1st goalie on his team" wich is not the point why we could have used Huet this season.
No way we would have paid him 5 million for that use tho. You're right on that.
There were pics that came out, hilarious ones (what happened to that thread??) with Higgins, AKost, Price and Chips. Price smoked in a couple of them. Now this doesn't mean he smokes a pack a day during the season, it just means that. at that time (over the summer, at a party), he smoked a cigarette...
Lafleur smoked in the dressing room so... I wouldn't worry.
There were pics that came out, hilarious ones (what happened to that thread??) with Higgins, AKost, Price and Chips. Price smoked in a couple of them. Now this doesn't mean he smokes a pack a day during the season, it just means that. at that time (over the summer, at a party), he smoked a cigarette...
Dion Phaneuf and Mikka Kiprusoff are well known chain smokers.
My dream combination for the coaching staff would be something like
Bob Hartley - Head Coach
?? - Defensemen Coach
Patrick Roy - Goaltender Coach
Patrick seems to have good experience coaching in the juniors, so I don't think he would have a "long" learning phase in the NHL... Carbo was thrown behind the bench after what..? One season with Therrien and 30 games as Gainey's assistant coach??
Even if I respect him, I don't really feel that he's the type of guy that can get the best from his team, especially with the way he's blaming at least one people per defeat...
That being said, I still hope that we can overpass this losing streak and that all good things come back, because, Carbo is not the only responsable for all of that
Patrick Roy as a coach in the NHL will not work. He's too much of an ******* to properly deal with the egos of the NHL. He'll piss off everyone on the team eventually.
That my friend is YOUR problem, not mine. I've lived to celebrate 10 Habs' Stanley Cups. I have nothing to prove. 
