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02-15-2009, 11:42 PM
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again if you gonna talk about firing carbo
you have to fire bob
he said it himself his best deal was carbono
how he's gonna justify removing a coach he said was his best deal.
that is what i am afraid of but if this year turns out to be completely disastrous and we do not make the playoffs..gainey might not be here next year by his own decision

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If Gainey is having trouble making a trade the obvious thing to do is fire the coach.

Many will flame and say how can yoou fire a Jack Adams finalist from last year?

Look a Therrian, he went to the finals last year and his team is doing the same...the players aren't responding and I don't think there is a "quick fix" to this team in getting a player or two.
While I agree, it certainly depends on the type of player you land. If you get just a couple of filler guys, likely nothing changes. But I think if a big enough name comes in, or a big enough personality, you could see a change. Lots of reasons:

a) even if chemistry is sparked on only one line, maybe that line starts having fun and it gets infectious (I mean, heck, it looks like losing has simply become infectious... why not winning?)
b) bringing in a big name or personality could be perceived as making moves toward actually keeping a playoff spot, and the boys might want not want to rob a star/popular guy of a chance to play playoff hockey.
c) a new guy with leadership qualities may give the team something new to rally around or buy into

etc, etc. Okay, I'm reaching a bit here, and maybe I just wanna believe that, since Bob will probably only have a few options available, he can get the best result out of whatever limited number of changes he is able to make. Atleast a positive enough change to ensure we get to see atleast one round of playoff hockey this year...

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02-15-2009, 11:43 PM
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Two comments that stand out in my mind this year from Gainey and Carbo;

Gainey - Carbo is my best move this year

Carbo - I would take 23 Kostopolous's on my team any day

One, Gainey feels better about his coach than his player moves an two, Carbo is high on a 4th liin grinder and would rather more of those players than skilled player or the other 22 on his roster.

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02-15-2009, 11:44 PM
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at least they didnt score 6 goals on us tonight....

a few points:

-Higgins had a good game tonight, i mean he was very much involved in the play and hustled all night long to get the puck, i think keeping him at center a little longer isnt that bad
-my boy andrei scores again, should get more minutes and should play with koivu and dago or patches

-simply horrible defensive decisions made, 3 out of 4 goals were from oddman rushes and they add many more where they coulve scored against us, just simply horrible. I believe a def. coach would really help(obviously)

-didnt see kovalev at all until he got his battle scratch to the face and disappeared afterwards, well kept trying to do everything himself and just failed miserably every time

-very nice **** by the woman behind the canucks bench, even though it was for only a couple of seconds it was my highight of the night

-seems like once our players get into the zone they have no idea what to do. Its either dump it or go wide....what happened to the best offence in the league a year ago? where did all the creativity go?

-halak was awesome and price too since he didnt get scored on

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02-15-2009, 11:48 PM
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How about giving Carbo's boy (Breezie) credit for ***** upping and pinching, which made the game 4-1.
I don't know what to say when O'Bryne is in the press box and that turnover machine is out there.

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I still think they can catch the Bruins they are only 20 points behind.....

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Check this out: http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=1...1&postcount=88

Maybe i should've predicted we win 5-4..

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it is interesting to see how many players we can name that have regressed under carbo

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02-15-2009, 11:52 PM
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only reason i watch them play now it's because = HABIT.
Like drinking coffee before sleeping or smoking before sex.

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Timmins and Lever.

Hey, why the hell not.
I don't trust timmins !

Yeah unbelievable as it could be I trust Gainey more !

Timmins was the guy that drafted:

Kostitsyn (over?Parise,Carter,Getzlaf ? Really ?)
Chipchura (overrated?)
Price(His best pick by far)
Fischer(Still look the same since we drafted him... need muscle)
McDonagh(Not bad)
Pacioretty(Good)

But for all the players drafted we have no sandpaper or character player with the exception of Conboy !

We need grit and size but we look like a figure skating team !!!

Timmins drafted good hockey players but soft one !!

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02-15-2009, 11:54 PM
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at least they didnt score 6 goals on us tonight....

a few points:

-Higgins had a good game tonight, i mean he was very much involved in the play and hustled all night long to get the puck, i think keeping him at center a little longer isnt that bad
-my boy andrei scores again, should get more minutes and should play with koivu and dago or patches

-simply horrible defensive decisions made, 3 out of 4 goals were from oddman rushes and they add many more where they coulve scored against us, just simply horrible. I believe a def. coach would really help(obviously)

-didnt see kovalev at all until he got his battle scratch to the face and disappeared afterwards, well kept trying to do everything himself and just failed miserably every time

-very nice **** by the woman behind the canucks bench, even though it was for only a couple of seconds it was my highight of the night

-seems like once our players get into the zone they have no idea what to do. Its either dump it or go wide....what happened to the best offence in the league a year ago? where did all the creativity go?

-halak was awesome and price too since he didnt get scored on
'Cause yeah, I'm keeping track... 13 shots (6 in one game) and 5 pts since the last time he scored. Which is 172 mins of ice time (10 games) ago, btw.

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02-15-2009, 11:55 PM
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is no one else baffled by how much ice time chipchura got and how our #1 center and 20 goal scorer had just a couple minutes more of ice time??

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Did price receive any shots?

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Did price receive any shots?
1 I think. 1.000 sv pct!! w0000t11!!11

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Did price receive any shots?
yes one

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I don't trust timmins !

Yeah unbelievable as it could be I trust Gainey more !

Timmins was the guy that drafted:

Kostitsyn (over?Parise,Carter,Getzlaf ? Really ?)
Chipchura (overrated?)
Price(His best pick by far)
Fischer(Still look the same since we drafted him... need muscle)
McDonagh(Not bad)
Pacioretty(Good)

But for all the players drafted we have no sandpaper or character player with the exception of Conboy !

We need grit and size but we look like a figure skating team !!!

Timmins drafted good hockey players but soft one !!
I don't have that much faith in any of these guys in place right now.

They continue to follow the unsuccessful blue print of Ottawa.

Who would of thought the Gainey five year plan was the exact same as the Andre Savard five year plan.

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I don't trust timmins !

Yeah unbelievable as it could be I trust Gainey more !

Timmins was the guy that drafted:

Kostitsyn (over?Parise,Carter,Getzlaf ? Really ?)
Chipchura (overrated?)
Price(His best pick by far)
Fischer(Still look the same since we drafted him... need muscle)
McDonagh(Not bad)
Pacioretty(Good)

But for all the players drafted we have no sandpaper or character player with the exception of Conboy !

We need grit and size but we look like a figure skating team !!!

Timmins drafted good hockey players but soft one !!
I think you also have to look at steals like Halak, D'Ago, Lapierre and others.

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Zero penalty in the game for our opps.
First time I see this in many many many years.

And I'm not blaming the refs..
Vancouver just didn't have to use illegal moves to stop our offense.

P.S.
Again nice job Georges "Useless" Laraque.

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is no one else baffled by how much ice time chipchura got and how our #1 center and 20 goal scorer had just a couple minutes more of ice time??
not me

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is no one else baffled by how much ice time chipchura got and how our #1 center and 20 goal scorer had just a couple minutes more of ice time??
Not anymore...it's a simple formula by Rolo really for the lines;

1,2,3,4
1,2,3,4
PP, 4,3
1,2,3,4
1,2,3,4

so at the end of the game, all the ice time is fairly close other than PP's and PK's....which were few and far between tonight.

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I don't trust timmins !

Yeah unbelievable as it could be I trust Gainey more !

Timmins was the guy that drafted:

Kostitsyn (over?Parise,Carter,Getzlaf ? Really ?)
Chipchura (overrated?)
Price(His best pick by far)
Fischer(Still look the same since we drafted him... need muscle)
McDonagh(Not bad)
Pacioretty(Good)

But for all the players drafted we have no sandpaper or character player with the exception of Conboy !

We need grit and size but we look like a figure skating team !!!

Timmins drafted good hockey players but soft one !!
They've also drafted guys like Lapierre, White, Latendresse, Yemelin, Torp, Valentenko, Wyman, D'Agostini and Greg Stewart for example who are guys who can play with some grit in their game. Timmins and his staff have done a great job in drafting the team it has been coaching who haven't used players properly and Gainey has done a questionable job surrounding these drafted players.

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I think you also have to look at steals like Halak, D'Ago, Lapierre and others.
Lapierre was a 2nd round draft pick in one of the best draft in NHL history !

Halak was a coin flip (he was very very good at the u18 and the habs took a wild card) still a good pick but he's no franchise player either !

D'ago. I like he has some tools but he's fitting the mold of other players drafted(fast, skilled but no grit)

He's not the worst but he's considered a savior among some but to me he looks to only draft the same type of players. Good hockey skills and untapped potential but soft as butter !

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They've also drafted guys like Lapierre, White, Latendresse, Yemelin, Torp, Valentenko, Wyman, D'Agostini and Greg Stewart for example who are guys who can play with some grit in their game. Timmins and his staff have done a great job in drafting the team it has been coaching who haven't used players properly and Gainey has done a questionable job surrounding these drafted players.
A great job? I don't think so. I can't believe you mentioned guys like Stewart, White and Wyman. Every team in the NHL has prospects like them.

Timmins gets WAY too much credit around here.

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Another game that Kovalev has 0 shots...Dandy had 3 ffs.

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