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02-16-2009, 01:41 PM
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2nd AND 3rd???? holy overpayment.

we've been giving up 1st and 2nds so easily recently. I wonder if we have any left. not good for the future, especially since the current squad isnt going to lead this team anywhere.
We don't need picks....we're so hot in the UFA market....

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The problem is this eats up pretty much the rest of our cap, as far as I can tell. It means we didn't even wait to see what was in the running to acquire the bigger names at the Trade Deadline. I like finishing our team up early, but I'm not sure this is the right move.

Markov - Komisarek
Hamrlik - Scheinder
Bouillon - Brisebois - Dandenault

O'Byrne is headed back to Hamilton, I'd assume.
Gorges is still on the team.

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He was on pace for 50 points just last season. I find it funny everybody is upset

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Wow!

The TSN article says you gave up a 2nd and 3rd round pick!

Seems like a drastic overpayment
Definitely overpaid, other GM's have Gainey by the balls right about now.

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Thrashers win this deal hands down!

A 2nd and 3rd should help them alot.

Schneider wasn't that impressive a few nights ago when the Hawks played the Thrashers. In fact he had a couple giveaways that allowed my Hawks good chances.

He also didn't do much on there PP. In fact Kovalchuk and Enstrom were mostly on the point for them on PP

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A second and a third is not expensive for a warm body.


I know this is hockey futures and all, but come on.
I agree.

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YESSSS. At least we got something. Great veteran and PP presence.

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2nd AND 3rd would be classified as stupid.
Well that's more than I wanted to see go the other way but I still think Schneider will help. Maybe you guys haven't been watching the team play the last month but they needed help on the back end.

And I certainly don't think this will be Gainey's only move. Let's wait until the end of the trade deadline before people jump off cliffs or lynch Gainey.

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Anyone complaining about the draft pick cost certainly doesn't care about what this team does this season.

Montreal is stacked in the farm. We can afford to lose a few draft picks.

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Words are that it's for two picks. My guess would be a 2nd and a 5th, or something like that.

Edit: It's for a 2nd and a 3rd.

Edit 2: 1,500 posts!
Hosed. 2nd AND a 3rd at the Habs DRAFT day?!?! So you draft a first and then wait until the 4th round or did you guys pick up another draft...

Also, unless a move is made aren't you guys at the cap now? Or is Lang's money available?

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If Schneider is worth a 2nd and a 3rd, then what is worthT.Kaberle? Bouwmeester????
If this set the market for trade deadline, it's going to be crazy.

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Schneiders last five games:

vs. Ducks: One assist, +2, 20 minutes played
vs. Blackhawks: No points, even plus/minus, 20 minutes played
vs. Tampa: One assist, +2, 18 minutes played
vs. Flyers: One assist, -1, 23 minutes played
vs. Devils: One assist, Even, 19 minutes played

Thrashers were 2-3 in that span. I think its safe to say, at least in the last five games, Schneider has been hot.
nice. schneider is an excellent veteran presence, good guy to have in the room, great slapshot. we have way too many D on the roster now...there must be something else coming.

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Thrashers win this deal hands down!

A 2nd and 3rd should help them alot.

Schneider wasn't that impressive a few nights ago when the Hawks played the Thrashers. In fact he had a couple giveaways that allowed my Hawks good chances.

He also didn't do much on there PP. In fact Kovalchuk and Enstrom were mostly on the point for them on PP
Like he was motivated to play for the ****ing Thrashers. He will turn it around.

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The problem is this eats up pretty much the rest of our cap, as far as I can tell. It means we didn't even wait to see what was in the running to acquire the bigger names at the Trade Deadline. I like finishing our team up early, but I'm not sure this is the right move.

Markov - Komisarek
Hamrlik - Scheinder
Bouillon - Brisebois - Dandenault

O'Byrne is headed back to Hamilton, I'd assume.
O'byrne is headed to Pheonix ! amongst others !

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I can understand trading a bad contract away to give us cap flexibility, but this guy was available for free on waivers and we passed on him. If we give up good draft picks now it will be pretty ridiculous.

Edit: second and third round picks. Ugh.
Welcome to the world of Bob Gainey.

"Hey Tallon, I really like Salmaleinen, could you throw him in?" "Sure, Bob."

Then he bought him out.. lol. I love Bob, but sometimes I wonder if he's playing with a full deck.

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Schneider is nice but i was waiting for a guy known as Schneidervsky, a Russian pp specialist who was a member of the Red army in the Playofsvky campaign against the Bostsitsyns rebels. But yeah what am i gonna do, he?

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Some good Schneider analysis here.

"For all the flack fans have directed at Schneider (and he has looked lackadasical at times) he does two things that the Thrasher badly need 1) he moves the puck efficiently up the ice and 2) he puts pucks on the net instead of waiting for a perfect opportunity that never presents itself."

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8 dman on the team now, 9 if you include Dandenault

Markov
Komisarek
Hamrlik
Schneider
Bouillon
Gorges
Brisebois
O'Byrne
Dandenault
Don't worry. Carbo will fit 3 d-men at forward, no problem !

With Schneider and Brisebois from the 93 CUP, gainey just needs to convince Desjardins, Odelein and Daignault to lace them up again !

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Bob did something......he trade for a Non-Euro......You all happy now
Now he only needs to trade a couple of them away

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A second and a third is not expensive for a warm body.


I know this is hockey futures and all, but come on.
we only got a 2nd for HUET last year who wasnt a dinosaur and playing a bigger role for them. not saying we couldn't use a guy like him but it is an overpayment that's for sure

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Some good Schneider analysis here.

"For all the flack fans have directed at Schneider (and he has looked lackadasical at times) he does two things that the Thrasher badly need 1) he moves the puck efficiently up the ice and 2) he puts pucks on the net instead of waiting for a perfect opportunity that never presents itself."
Sounds like what ails us.

 
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well, we gave up a lot and we won't make any deal at the deadline cause we're screwded with the cap now... Schneider is alright though. Overall, I'd say it's a bad move, but the way the team was playing, it could be the only option he had besides firing the coach.

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i guess we won't be seeing P Roy in the room anytime soon huh ?

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ive got a feeling obyrne might be on his way out, either hamilton or trade to get back a 2nd or 3rd round pick

good move by gainey even though it cost 2 picks, i like it, people here complain that gainey needs to move, then when he does,arent happy about it

its not like he trade ribeiro for niniimaa again geez

also, HALL GILL got toronto a 2nd and 5th round pick, so a 2nd and a 3rd round pick for schneider aint that bad...

good move gainey...FINALLY

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