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02-17-2009, 12:37 PM
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Who's your favorite between thos three

I expect the Canadiens to draft between 15 and 30. It's large, but it gives more payer to watch and compare. I suppose the canadiens will draft a center. So i spot 3 who are between 15 and 30. (there's more center but I don't know the others)

Louis Leblanc (15th,5'11'' 157 lbs, USHL 41 pts in 42 games)
Carter Ashton (22th,6'2'' 202 lbs, WHL , 27 goals in 58 games)
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Jordan Caron (27 th, 6'2'' 200 lbs, QMJHL, 29 goals in 46 games)

My vote goes to Jordan Caron .... what do you think ?


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02-17-2009, 12:42 PM
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It's Carter Ashton, not Ashton Carter. And I would pick him, a good tough Saskatchewan boy.

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It's Carter Ashton, not Ashton Carter. And I would pick him, a good tough Saskatchewan boy.
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Having watched Ashton play all year, I can safely say he has the potential to be what we're missing. Big, talented and fast. He can also fend for himself. Minimum 3rd line with first line potential.

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As of now, Leblanc has the greatest offensive upside. Caron, well it's a love and hate relationship since the beginning of the season, seems to me that he's always hurt. As far as Ashton, this guy will end up being an NHL player. Not sure he has the upside of a top 6, not sure about the hockey sense either. I need to see him more the couple of games I've seen.

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02-17-2009, 01:34 PM
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Zack Kassian from Peterborough would be a good pick up. I've seen him play about 10 times this year.

Big, physical guy with some skill. Not the greatest skater, but I expect that tom improve with time and work.

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Zack Kassian from Peterborough would be a good pick up. I've seen him play about 10 times this year.

Big, physical guy with some skill. Not the greatest skater, but I expect that tom improve with time and work.
Ask Whitesnake about what Timmins thinks about foot speed (or lack there of).

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02-17-2009, 02:00 PM
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Ask Whitesnake about what Timmins thinks about foot speed (or lack there of).
No need to ask me anymore. You're there now.

I really can't believe that it will and it was always the case (see Chip, Lats, White), but that's what the guy told me and I believe that he'll obviously always go for the best skater. Could Kassian be the BPA forcing them to take him anyway? We'll see.

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No need to ask me anymore. You're there now.

I really can't believe that it will and it was always the case (see Chip, Lats, White), but that's what the guy told me and I believe that he'll obviously always go for the best skater. Could Kassian be the BPA forcing them to take him anyway? We'll see.
Ya but I like it when you go into a bit more detail. You've seen these prospects more then most of us anyways...

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Don't know anything about these guys but if Carter Ashton is putting up those kind of numbers in the WHL, and he's a center, and he's already this big, he's my blind pick out of the 3.

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I expect the Canadiens to draft between 15 and 30. It's large, but it gives more payer to watch and compare. I suppose the canadiens will draft a center. So i spot 3 who are between 15 and 30. (there's more center but I don't know the others)

Louis Leblanc (15th,5'11'' 157 lbs, USHL 41 pts in 42 games)
Carter Ashton (22th,6'2'' 202 lbs, WHL , 27 goals in 58 games)
or
Jordan Caron (27 th, 6'2'' 200 lbs, QMJHL, 29 goals in 46 games)

My vote goes to Jordan Caron .... what do you think ?

Caron is not a center, he's a Latendresse type winger. I'd say a poor man's Latendresse at the same aqge.

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Ask Whitesnake about what Timmins thinks about foot speed (or lack there of).
Are you talking about the same Timmins that traded up to draft Latendresse and that made Chipchura his first round selection in '04?

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The two that aren't Jordan Caron.

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Are you talking about the same Timmins that traded up to draft Latendresse and that made Chipchura his first round selection in '04?
Again, I'm not and never state that it will always be the case 'cause as a matter of fact, BPA sometimes prevail. But I'm just stating what Timmins had said to me 3 years ago in a development camp. The 2 main things is that when he'll have 2 guys that he wants very much and don't know with which one he'll go for, he'll always choose the d-man. He said that as the norm, not as "since we need d-men now, I'll go with d-men".

Then, he said to me literally that the reason why he didn't pick Claude Giroux was because of foot speed. They did a few tests and seemingly a guy like Mathieu Carle was eating Giroux alive. Said he was on top of his list but foot speed was the key thing here. Now, it won't always be the case like it wasn't the case for Chip, Lats and White. Why? 'Cause my belief is that this is where BPA kicks in, both Lats and White were their BPA at the time. Both guys were at one point suppose to go much earlier than that. Now as far as Chip is concerned, well it's a mystery to me unless the character, the maturity and the leadership prevailed. I guess he wanted to fill a little bit of the need for the centerman. Or he also was the BPA for them.

So usually, it's not always the case, Timmins will be going with the guys that has great foot speed and great mobility. Speed and skill, that's the motto of this organization, it has been said publicly numerous times by Timmins and Gainey. Now if the adapt it to what our needs will be, it's their thing and I believe it will be welcome.But that's what I've been told by him 2 years ago, talking with him for a full 45 minutes.

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Carter Ashton.

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02-17-2009, 07:52 PM
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Wow Leblanc seriously needs to bulk up

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We need to stop drafting ballerina !

Kassian would be great and he's a better skater than was Lucic in 2006 anyway !

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We need to stop drafting ballerina !

Kassian would be great and he's a better skater than was Lucic in 2006 anyway !
I remember Lucic in his draft year and you're so right. I was so sure that this guy would never have played in the NHL in his first year, his skating was really bad. This guy is probably the one that I've seen make the most progress in his skating in suck a short time. It doesn't mean that everybody can do it though.

But I obviously agree that with the talent, the skill, we need to add the grit and the toughness.

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For you to reply, I bet you do.

To answer the OP's question, instead of those 3.. I'd pick Jacob Josefson 'cause.. well we need Centremen and I like his name.


Josefson sounds like a guy I'd really like, wish I could see him more often.

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Wow Leblanc seriously needs to bulk up
Those numbers are seriously outdated (Hockeydb.com is a great site but not when it comes to players sizes). Leblanc was listed at 6-0, 178lbs at the beginning of the season.

http://www.pointstreak.com/stats/pro...&seasonid=3192

TSN have him listed at 6-1, 200 lbs in their mid-season listing... I'm not sure if those numbers are accurate however.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=4084

Here's an interesting interview with Leblanc:

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pag...u_sid=10553406

I love this part:

Q: What's it like to spend a lot of time in the dirty areas around the crease?
A: There's a lot of trash-talking going on and a lot of stick work. I just like getting my nose dirty. Last year, a lot of my goals were from around the crease. I'm there in front of the power play right now, and you don't get to touch the puck a lot. But you're there for rebounds and get what they call garbage goals. You get slashed behind the legs and the goalies don't like it with you right in their face, but sometimes you get a penalty off of it. Most of the time, you just get bruised.
Q: Where does your intense style come from?
A: I hate losing and take everything seriously - whether it's school work, hockey or working out. I just hate being last and want to be the best player on the ice and hardest worker in the gym. Both of my parents hate losing and sloppy work, and I just take pride in the details and my intensity. If you're going to control something, control your intensity and hopefully the other stuff will come.


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