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02-18-2009, 05:57 PM
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Reinprecht and Morris to Vancouver?

Just curious for Phoenix fans, what would Vancouver have to give up to get the combo of Steve Reinprecht and Derek Morris to the Canucks?

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I was asking this in the other Derek Morris thread, as these players pretty much ideally fit into the Canucks line-up. Morris is struggling offensively, but so are most of the Coyotes. Reinprecht is having a great year down there too.

I'd think a younger, cheaper defenseman would be going to Phoenix - I mentioned O'Brien in the other thread. Probably at least a 2nd round pick, and maybe a younger offensive player as well.

Morris is a player I could see staying in Vancouver if it works out. Depending on how the Sedins salaries work out, and if Ohlund is back or not.

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Not sure that Wellwood has any value, but perhaps he could be of interest to Phoenix? Not an Alain Vigneault type player, unfortunately...and O'Brien to me would make a lot of sense to send back. Mayhaps O'Brien, Wellwood and a conditional 2nd/3rd based on playoff success for the Canucks? 2 RFAs and a pick for two pending UFAs?

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Phoenix looks to have a lot of depth in their organization with prospects... I don't think they'd be too interested in guys like Wellwood.

My guess is a 1st rounder would have to go (considering it's both Reinprecht and Morris in the same deal). Otherwise Phoenix can probably deal them separately for a 2nd and a prospect each...

I don't see Gillis making any moves like this because of not wanting to give up a 1st or top prospects... but realistically, I think a 1st, Grabner, and mid-level prospect (Ellington, White, Sauve, etc) would be what Phoenix would expect if they're packaging both guys in the same deal.

Individually, I think that each of them will garner a 2nd + at least a mid-level prospect or 3rd/4th round pick.

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Both would be great additions for sure. But then Gillis has stated he's not interested in trading picks/prospects for rental players and I would have to think that both would likely be rentals, although for the right price I could see Gillis looking at re-signing Morris as a potentially cheaper replacement for Ohlund.

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I could also see the Canucks being interested in just Reinprecht to play on the third line. Would his value be pegged at around a 2nd or 3rd round pick? Seems to be the going rate for good 3rd line centres.

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Sauve and a 1st for Morris and Reinprecht

or

Sauve and Raymond

Big decision and only 2 weeks to decide. What will they do with those 2?

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I think we'd be looking at more at a contributing young defenseman as a center piece. I'm not sure how it would work, I don't think O'Brien is enough, but Edler is too much. Either way, salary needs to come back because, with Turris' cap hit off the books for now trading both Morris and Reinprecht puts the Yotes way under the cap floor.

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do you think jovo might ever be able to come back to the nucks instead of morris
how about

To Van: Ed Jovo

To Phx: Salo , Edler , 1st round pik of 2009 ,and mason raymond?????

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do you think jovo might ever beable to come back to the nucks instead of morris
how about

To Van: Ed Jovo

To Phx: Salo , Edler , 1st round pik of 2009 ,and mason raymond?????
Thank god your not our gm

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Thank god your not our gm
to much??? can you anser the question istead of being so immature

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to much??? can you anser the question istead of being so immature
Ok sure, Jovo is good but the trade would be crippling our youth for a player who is nearly identical to Bieksa.

Also Salo is One of our best Dman (even if he gets hurt). In other words, Huge overpayment.

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Ok sure, Jovo is good but the trade would be crippling our youth for a player who is nearly identical to Bieksa.

Also Salo is One of our best Dman (even if he gets hurt). In other words, Huge overpayment.
true but have you seen jovo latley he's been amazing take out edler then i say thats a deal

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true but have you seen jovo latley he's been amazing take out edler then i say thats a deal
If you take out Edler it would look much more promising as a trade.

I don't see them trading Jovo tho, I dont think it would be a great fit here Because of Bieksa.

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If you take out Edler it would look much more promising as a trade.

I don't see them trading Jovo tho, I dont think it would be a great fit here Because of Bieksa.
i don't see them trading jovo either but it would be a good trade tho because i heard gillis is looking for a puck moving d-man ( like bouwmeester ) but i could also see phx doing it because they still need more young guys and the 1st would help them out because they don't have that great of a team this year

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i don't see them trading jovo either but it would be a good trade tho because i heard gillis is looking for a puck moving d-man ( like bouwmeester ) but i could also see phx doing it because they still need more young guys and the 1st would help them out because they don't have that great of a team this year
The thing with Jovo is that he still has one more year at that nasty $6.5 million cap number. That would seriously affect our ability to retain the Sedins, and go after some younger UFA's. Jovo would be a good fit, but I think Morris would work as well, and we have the option of whether or not to retain him.

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The thing with Jovo is that he still has one more year at that nasty $6.5 million cap number. That would seriously affect our ability to retain the Sedins, and go after some younger UFA's. Jovo would be a good fit, but I think Morris would work as well, and we have the option of whether or not to retain him.
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what about Morris for a 2nd?

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what about Morris for a 2nd?
i would do that in an instant... good trade

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If Schneider went for a 2nd and 3rd D-Mo will fetch atleast a first easily. He's 10x the player Schneider is and 10+ years younger.

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Morris isn't bad. I don't have alot of interest in Reinprecht though.

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If Schneider went for a 2nd and 3rd D-Mo will fetch atleast a first easily. He's 10x the player Schneider is and 10+ years younger.
ya but schnider has experience and leadership but you are right about the skill ...

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personally, Steve Reinprecht alone should be enough of an acquisition for the Canucks

he can fill the third line center role, and can also play wing or center in the top 6 if needed

wonder how much less the Canucks would have to give, if it was just Reinprecht

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do you think jovo might ever be able to come back to the nucks instead of morris
how about

To Van: Ed Jovo

To Phx: Salo , Edler , 1st round pik of 2009 ,and mason raymond?????
This is a huge overpayment. Honestly for Jovo and his 6.5M cap hit, I wouldn't trade away Salo straight up for him. The 3M difference is worth more to Vancouver. Yes Jovo is great, and I'd love to see him back in Van but not with that contract. Gillis will not be trading our 1st rd pick inless we get someone young signed skilled with room for improvement. We do not have depth in our prospect pool and we need to draft well this year too.

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personally, Steve Reinprecht alone should be enough of an acquisition for the Canucks

he can fill the third line center role, and can also play wing or center in the top 6 if needed

wonder how much less the Canucks would have to give, if it was just Reinprecht
I like the idea of Reinprecht, I'd rather find the D man we need somewhere else. I like our top six right now and would rather find another player who can come in during the playoffs that is young. Someone like Goligoski from Pitt.

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what about Morris for a 2nd?
Not going to happen. If Phoenix trades Morris then they are going to want an NHL player in return.

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