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03-09-2004, 11:54 AM
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De Vries For Karel Rachunek

Rangers and Ottowa get it done... more details coming..

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the trade is official its devries for alexandre giroux and karel rachunek pretty good trade for the rangers

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the trade is official its devries for alexandre giroux and karel rachunek pretty good trade for the rangers
LOVE IT! FRICKIN' LOVE IT!

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http://www.sportsnet.ca/trade/index.html

Nice trade. Rachunek is a great foundation for the new blue line.

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Rangers and Ottowa get it done... more details coming..

This is a good deal for both teams. Considering the youth movement, a great trade for Sather. Rachunek is a quality young defenseman with a lot of NHL experience.

Apparently, OTT couldn't get EDM to give up Jason Smith which was the first target.

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03-09-2004, 12:03 PM
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Well, I like Rachunek alot as long as he can stay off the IR.

I don't know much about Giroux, looks like a big, lanky offensive Center/LW from the Q:
http://www.ottawasenators.com/players/0304/giroux_e.aro

Good deal for both squads, i liked DeVries, one of the only reliable D-men we've had the last 7 years.


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Never been impressed with Karel

and the other kid isn't really anything to get excited about in my humble opinion.

Personally I thought we could have gotten a better package than that.

And while most of his deals have been very positive, getting Sandy McArthy back was a pathetic move.

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03-09-2004, 12:08 PM
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and the other kid isn't really anything to get excited about in my humble opinion.

Personally I thought we could have gotten a better package than that.

And while most of his deals have been very positive, getting Sandy McArthy back was a pathetic move.
Come on, Sandy will only help us get a better shot at #4 overall, he's only gonna be here for 13 games, does it matter?

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getting Sandy McArthy back was a pathetic move.
Come on dude. Who else do you propose take all these open spots we'll have by the end of the day? We need bodies.

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03-09-2004, 12:20 PM
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Rachunek is a better version of Poti - so ...does that mean...Poti...maybe...gets...TRADED???

I wish.....

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Come on, Sandy will only help us get a better shot at #4 overall, he's only gonna be here for 13 games, does it matter?
As long as it is only 13 games...

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Rachunek is a better version of Poti
Rachunek is a signifigantly better defensive player than Poti. He's a +64 for his NHL career.

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03-09-2004, 12:29 PM
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Rachunek is a signifigantly better defensive player than Poti. He's a +64 for his NHL career.
+64 playing for Ottawa is different than saying he's a +64 for the Rangers :p

I like Rachunek, alot more than Poti, i just don't know what he'll be on our team. He's been on the IR every year he's played, thats not a good sign. Ottawa fans seem torn - some liked him alot, some thought he took nights off. It'll be interesting to see how Karel plays in reaction to now being a guy who's counted on more, as to being down the depth chart on a stacked Sens defense.

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I love Rachunek. I believe he's a future #2 defenseman in this league. He's just been stuck in Jacques martin's doghouse.

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Eh, not a big fan of this trade, Rachunek never seems to be all there. Yeah he's got a nice plus minus but who doesn't on that team?
The prospect well just at first glance (and I pray I'm completely off) doesn't sound all that great he USED to be a 50 goal scorer his numbers have dropped dramatically (maybe the reason ottawa let him go?).

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Rachunek is the big gun in this trade, and we'll either love him or hate him, but I REALLy like the acqusition of Giroux..

He's a very versatile and scrappy forward, who's not really a fighter, but has no problems dropping the gloves if the need arises.. Plays PK and PP..

No top end tools, but everything you'd want out of a supporting cast member of a young core..

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I think it's a great deal.

Greg De Vries didn't want to be here. He wanted to go to a winner and that's what he expected when he signed here...obviously after one season the direction this team has taken has been a drastic 180. As good as Greg can be, I don't want to hold anybody here that doesn't want to be here.

In my opinion it was a move that had to be made, and the return seems pretty nice too. Too bad we couldn't get a pick out of them too.

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I think the posters already condemning this trade are ridiculous.

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Couldn't we get let's say a 7th rounder thrown in there as well?
No.

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Read this thread, posts by Sens fans who've seen all the players involved actually play:

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.p...6&page=2&pp=15

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Couldn't we get let's say a 7th rounder thrown in there as well?
Yes, adding a 7th rounder from Ottawa, now that puts this deal over the top.

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Eh, not a big fan of this trade, Rachunek never seems to be all there. Yeah he's got a nice plus minus but who doesn't on that team?
The prospect well just at first glance (and I pray I'm completely off) doesn't sound all that great he USED to be a 50 goal scorer his numbers have dropped dramatically (maybe the reason ottawa let him go?).
According to this article, Rachunek has had attitude problems:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam021117/col_garrioch-sun.html

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According to this article, Rachunek has had attitude problems:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam021117/col_garrioch-sun.html
that article is super old and written by bruce g. i'll take it with a grain of salt.

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that article is super old and written by bruce g. i'll take it with a grain of salt.
I agree

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even breathing poti and rachunek in the same sentence is totally off base.

i think this is an awesome pickup for a 31 year old defenseman who hinted that he didnt want to be a part of the rebuilding process.

you werent gonna get a first for devries so forget that idea.

Rachenuk could def. help to establish a young nucleus of defenseman.

some people look and say "how he could not do good on ottawa". i look and say "he made one of the best teams in hockey and was a contributer".

i think some people ARE seriously setting their sights a little too high this deadline and expecting everything to bring back a first round pick.

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