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02-20-2009, 05:34 AM
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2-20-09 Avs at Caps 5 PM MT

A team on the rise, vs. a team in near free fall

Raycroft vs Theodore

Caps good vs Avs bad

Ovechkin will eat us alive, and Mike Green will show us what a real defenseman looks like.

Jones and Cumiskey out for the rest of the year...Liles still out. No Stats...yet. And Tucker may be back

Did I cover it all?

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02-20-2009, 06:26 AM
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there's also a theodore beat up in the post

http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_11744900

basically dissappionted that we didnt pony up our offer for him after he already took what 10-12 million from us?!. blah blah ancient history

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...blames our position in the standings on the number of 1-goal games we lost, implies he could have done better, blah, blah, blah

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...blames our position in the standings on the number of 1-goal games we lost,
And this isn't true?? How many games have Budaj-croft lost with a softy in the last 5 minutes of a game?

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While I agree that he may have done better in one or two games...I think with this team, it wouldn't have mattered all that much (and I am a Theodore fan)

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Honestly, I wasn't surprised that the Avs only offered him 3.5M. However, looking back with our 20/20 hindsight, signing Theo at 4.5 might've been the way to go. We would've had to spend almost 4M per year on goalies more than we are doing now, Theo IMO would've won us a few of those one goal games. But, most importantly, we probably wouldn't have had the cash to sign Darcy FTucker.

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there's also a theodore beat up in the post

http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_11744900

basically dissappionted that we didnt pony up our offer for him after he already took what 10-12 million from us?!. blah blah ancient history
The FG "no comment" is such a shock

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02-20-2009, 07:34 AM
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The FG "no comment" is such a shock
If the bounces just went our way....

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And this isn't true?? How many games have Budaj-croft lost with a softy in the last 5 minutes of a game?



While I agree that he may have done better in one or two games...I think with this team, it wouldn't have mattered all that much (and I am a Theodore fan)
It's true enough, but without the Avs -- and Hackett -- Theo might very well not be where he is today. He could have taken the high road and showed some appreciation, rather than gloat that he is now on a better team.

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Imagine Theo this year without goal support. The Avs are no better or no worse without him. I'm still fine with them letting him walk.

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there's also a theodore beat up in the post

http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_11744900

basically dissappionted that we didnt pony up our offer for him after he already took what 10-12 million from us?!. blah blah ancient history
he's satisfied with a .901 SV%

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there's also a theodore beat up in the post

http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_11744900

basically dissappionted that we didnt pony up our offer for him after he already took what 10-12 million from us?!. blah blah ancient history
Hey The-odor, try getting past the 2nd round at ANY point in your career, then maybe you can talk. Until then, shut your cake hole !

I'm glad he's gone...by making these lousy unnecessary comments, he just PROVED that it was the right move to dump him. Classless bum...go get your dad, Roman Hamrlik and the Kostitsyn brothers and go sell some drugs. Loser.

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he's satisfied with a .901 SV%
Yeah no kidding !! It would be like Osgood taking credit for all of the Wings success...

So, at the end it was 3 years @ $3.5M ?!?!! Holy crap, how pissed off would most Avs fans have been if that had happened?

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So no one wants to tank tonight? Is this what we are saying here?

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So no one wants to tank tonight? Is this what we are saying here?
Let's lose 9-8.

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So no one wants to tank tonight? Is this what we are saying here?
i wouldnt mind a little bit of retribution on theo with a 6 goal burst on his face


that said, the caps are a really really good team who will probably light up our team

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Let's lose 9-8.
Remember the Avs/Habs game...Theo's last "return?" It could turn into the 9-8 barnburner

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he's satisfied with a .901 SV%
Keep in mind that Theodore really stunk it up early in the season. In his last 18 games, he has a GAA of 2.25 and a .919 SV%.

That includes multiple games against Boston, NYR, Buffalo, and Florida, as well as games again Detroit, Philly, New Jersey, Pittsburgh, and Montreal.

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Imagine Theo this year without goal support. The Avs are no better or no worse without him.
Oh, sure they are. If we're talking about the Theodore from the first 2 1/2 seasons with the Avs, yes, there's no difference. But, the Theodore from the 2nd half of last season? Please. There's a huge difference, and the Avs would not be in last place.

The Avs are averaging 2.6 gpg this year, as compared with 2.74 gpg last year. That's 7 goals difference across the whole season so far, so I'm missing where the 'without goal support' comes from. It's largely the same as last season. This year though, there have been a LOT of really soft goals scored against the Avs.

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he's satisfied with a .901 SV%
He's satisifed doing exactly what he did last year. Which is being fairly average early in the season, then turning it on after Christmas and carrying his team into the playoffs (his save% is something like .920 since right about Xmas).

Something this season's Avalanche team does not have.

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also, **** theo for those articles, we had every right to expect a lower amount from him after giving him like 12 millions to "arnason" it up (yes arnason is a noun and a verb now)

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there's also a theodore beat up in the post

http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_11744900

basically dissappionted that we didnt pony up our offer for him after he already took what 10-12 million from us?!. blah blah ancient history
He has marginally better numbers than either one of our goalies on a far superior team. Yeah I'm really upset we let him go.

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also, **** theo for those articles, we had every right to expect a lower amount from him after giving him like 12 millions to "arnason" it up (yes arnason is a noun and a verb now)
It's also an adjective/adverb now

"Man, that was the most Arnason shift I've ever seen."

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He's satisifed doing exactly what he did last year. Which is being fairly average early in the season, then turning it on after Christmas and carrying his team into the playoffs (his save% is something like .920 since right about Xmas).

Something this season's Avalanche team does not have.

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Since Christmas...
Theo is 13-4-2 with a .917 Sv% and a 2.36 GAA

Budaj is 5-8 (pulled once for a "no decision") with a .883 Sv% and a 3.14 GAA
Raycroft is 5-6 with a .893 Sv% and a 3.00 GAA

(Just stats, I'm not arguing anything...it was brought up)


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He has marginally better numbers than either one of our goalies on a far superior team. Yeah I'm really upset we let him go.
You guys are missing the point.

Without Theodore, it's questionable whether the Avs would have made the playoffs last year, and it's certain they wouldn't have moved past Minnesota in the first round without him. The reason is that even though his numbers for the season were just OK, he's a goaltender with the talent to turn it on, and carry a team on his shoulders. Which is precisely what he did for the Avs after Xmas last year.

And which is exactly what he's doing for Washington this year. Yes, they're a better team (and are thus going to finish 2nd, rather than 6th), but his post-Xmas numbers are looking a lot like they did for the Avs last season.

He's playing like a Top 10 NHL goaltender when it counts.

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Since Christmas...Theo is 13-4-2 with a .917 Sv% and a 2.36 GAA
This is not aimed at you personally just generally at the Theo comments: I don't see how anyone thinks Theo significantly improves this years team. Yes we could have 3-5 more wins and might sneak into the playoffs to become first round fodder. In the mean time we draft lower and eat up valuable contract space into the future with a guy who has also been a poster child for inconsistency. Theo > Budaj | Raycroft no questions asked. The Avs !> with Theo in net and his contract. I would like to be more successful right now but Theo alone would not bring this and I find his attitude distasteful. I for one am glad he is gone.

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A team on the rise, vs. a team in near free fall

Raycroft vs Theodore

Caps good vs Avs bad

Ovechkin will eat us alive, and Mike Green will show us what a real defenseman looks like.

Jones and Cumiskey out for the rest of the year...Liles still out. No Stats...yet. And Tucker may be back

Did I cover it all?
I think you mean Mike Green will show us what a real forward looks like

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