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The once "Mighty" Ducks going to miss playoffs?

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02-20-2009, 09:58 PM
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I'm guessing they're just having a tough break. Look at the amount of talent they have on the team. It's kind of comparable to the Penguins.

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02-20-2009, 10:00 PM
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all selanne does is score on the power play... i am curious what the percentage of his points come off the power play...

also scott has clearly lost a step and it is obvious to anyone who watches their game...

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I think that the Ducks could still pull it together. They'd have to get Ryan, Getzlaf, and Giguere/Hiller to go on a tear, but stranger things have happened.

Man, I really want to see a Ducks-Kings playoff series soon. Anyone else agree?

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02-20-2009, 10:08 PM
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Vancouver was never one of the best teams....

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Burke leaving teams completely disastrous. What else is new.

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Burke leaving teams completely disastrous. What else is new.
Burke won a cup also.

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Lets be honest, the top 8 in the West are going to start to run away and leave 9-15 behind. Every team that the Ducks can catch is starting to play the best hockey of there season. The weird thing is, is that the Ducks have all that talent, so there should be no excuse for them not to make it. There goalie has just been awful for once. They will bounce back next year for sure.

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Watching the Wings game tonight Daniels had mentioned 10-11 players for Anaheim are UFA's should be interesting . Especially if they don't make it to the playoffs.

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Burke won a cup also.
On a core Bryan Murray built. Burke merely added a couple of pieces who wanted a chance at a cup in southern California where no one gives a **** about hockey.

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Watching the Wings game tonight Daniels had mentioned 10-11 players for Anaheim are UFA's should be interesting . Especially if they don't make it to the playoffs.
and that another **** Burke has left in Anaheim.

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Lets. Starting with this gem: "signed Selanne who is too old to compete..".

-42 games, 18+17=35, full season pace about 35+35=70, signed for 2.625M$.

Or maybe this: "Niedermayer who is worse than average right now".

-Niedermayer led all defensemen in scoring in January and was named the 2nd star of the month among all NHL players.


58,83,90,94,104,101

Wanna know what those numbers are? They are point totals of the Canucks during Burke's tenure. He took one of the bottom dwellers of the league and made them one of the best.

You, again brilliantly, summarized his tenure there like this: "they just started to recover from that wise management."

I'm not particularly impressed by your performance.
1. Most of Selanne's points comes from PP. He is still valuable in that department. However, you do not see much of Selanne in the 3rd.
2. Niedermayer is expected to be the best in this league. Getting ONLY 2nd star of the month is shame. Not worth his contract.
3. Concerning those point totals. It is pretty easy to empty the farm for ready-to-contribute players. Vancouver can easily do that now - trade Hodson for Alfreadsson, for example, and you'll see immediate impact. However, it is not the way successful teams are running. That is why it is so hard to have continous success over several years.

Edit: grammar

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02-20-2009, 11:18 PM
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On a core Bryan Murray built. Burke merely added a couple of pieces who wanted a chance at a cup in southern California where no one gives a **** about hockey.
Even with the utter failure of Murray in Ottawa this idiocy still prevails.

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and that another **** Burke has left in Anaheim.
When changing management, having as much flexibility for the new GM is a positive. But knowing your previous endeavours in this thread, hockey knowledge is not something to expect from you.

What has Burke done to turn all of you into such parrots? Lobotomy?

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02-20-2009, 11:41 PM
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But knowing your previous endeavours in this thread, hockey knowledge is not something to expect from you.

What has Burke done to turn all of you into such parrots? Lobotomy?
I'll end this discussion here. You exposed everithing you could and nothing really important left

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02-20-2009, 11:44 PM
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I couldn't stand the Ducks but now I just feel sorry for them. It's crazy they have so much talent and they stink this bad.

Two 5 one 3 PP's against a poor PK tonight and they come away with nothing.

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02-20-2009, 11:53 PM
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So much talent?

Please.

Kunitz and Ebbet are not top-6 players.

Name one good defenseman they have past underperforming Niedermayer and Pronger. One.

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02-21-2009, 12:02 AM
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They were in 4th place in the west in early december and all of the sudden they fallen down to 9th. It seems like the losses will continue to pile up until they fall to 10th or 11th place. They have a horrible points percentage (21st in league) and they have been losing to teams at the bottom of the standings. What has happened to them besides the obvious? I mean on paper they shouldnt be this bad. Will they revive or miss the playoffs this year?
They don't play hard, they coach no longer gets through to them, poor depth, Morrison epic fail, Giguere not himself.

On the bright side we can unload some of our UFA vets to teams wanting championship experiance, and hopefully use the draft to restock, and our capspace to be better next year

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02-21-2009, 12:03 AM
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lol burke
Not his fault, he wouldn't have sat around and done nothing and at the time he left we had a good record

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02-21-2009, 12:05 AM
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So much talent?

Please.

Kunitz and Ebbet are not top-6 players.

Name one good defenseman they have past underperforming Niedermayer and Pronger. One.
Kunitz is a quality second liner on many teams...wrong

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02-21-2009, 12:10 AM
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Kunitz is a quality second liner on many teams...wrong
Not on a team higher than 5th in the conference

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02-21-2009, 12:19 AM
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There's still time left for Anaheim to straighten things out and get into the postseason.

But there's a chance that this year only 1 of the last 6 teams to play in the finals will make the playoffs. Detroit is a sure bet while Pittsburgh, Ottawa, Anaheim, Carolina and Edmonton could all end up on the outside looking in.

Makes you really appreciate the perennial playoff teams, as few as there are.

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02-21-2009, 12:26 AM
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lol burke leaves then the going gets tough

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02-21-2009, 12:26 AM
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Not on a team higher than 5th in the conference
The ducks won a cup with him as a top six player so..you're wrong

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I blame it on the trades of Bryzgalov and Andy McDonald

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02-21-2009, 12:36 AM
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I'll end this discussion here.
That's probably a good thing now that you have established that powerplay goals don't actually count, average NHL defensemen get 1st star of the month all the time and that prospects are more important for teams than standings.

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